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Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:01
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Work it out Mancie...I'm sure you are capable of that.

Mancie 13-05-2012 19:08
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991459)
Work it out Mancie...I'm sure you are capable of that.
Work what out?.. you stated that Obama would not be restricted by EU regulations in regard to same sex marriage...I asked you what regulations do the EU have one same sex marriage...could you give me some insight into what those regulations are?

Wynonie Harris 13-05-2012 19:11
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 991461)
Work what out?.. you stated that Obama would not be restricted by EU regulations in regard to same sex marriage...I asked you what regulations do the EU have one same sex marriage.
The EU don't have any regulations on same sex marriage and strangely enough, neither do the ECHR.

Eric 13-05-2012 19:22
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991363)
I don't think it will, it is a cynical ploy to catch votes...and I'm sure that many americans will see through his abysmal opportunism.

I think you are dead wrong on this one, hon. I think that Obama's decision comes from conviction. And, on the whole, it is voter neutral. People who are in favor of same sex unions would vote Democrat anyway ... and those who oppose it (along with taxes, affirmative action, govt. funded health care, a woman's right to control over her body ... this right is, I believe, guaranteed by the ninth and fourteenth ammendments ... ) would never vote Democrat anyway. Take North Carolina, for example, if Obama got rid of all taxes, and promised that everyone over the age of two would get a free assault rifle, he still couldn't take that State. It doesn't help Romney one bit. He has enough problems trying, as a Mormon, to convince the ultra-right, born again Christian nutbars to support him. Most of these idiots consider Romney too liberal.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Still don't see why this is an issue in the US and the UK.:confused:

I would like to find some stats on how gays vote ... I have a feeling that they tend to vote in large numbers.

Gordon Booth 13-05-2012 19:24
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 991353)
Barack Obama's support for gay marriage has guaranteed it will be a big issue in the forthcoming election.

Hopefully it will show up the narrow mindedness and bigotry of those opposed to it, and will bring equality that little bit closer.
In the poll on this thread 28.21% voted gay marriage was 'a step too far' and 35.90% voted to 'stick to civil partnerships'.

Does that mean 64.11% of these voters are narrow minded bigots? Reading the posts I think not.

Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:26
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 991463)
The EU don't have any regulations on same sex marriage and strangely enough, neither do the ECHR.
There must be something in the ubiquitous ECHR that covers it...everything else seems to be covered by it.
Maybe they will formulate something so that they have left no stone unturned.

Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:28
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 991467)
I think you are dead wrong on this one, hon. I think that Obama's decision comes from conviction. And, on the whole, it is voter neutral. People who are in favor of same sex unions would vote Democrat anyway ... and those who oppose it (along with taxes, affirmative action, govt. funded health care, a woman's right to control over her body ... this right is, I believe, guaranteed by the ninth and fourteenth ammendments ... ) would never vote Democrat anyway. Take North Carolina, for example, if Obama got rid of all taxes, and promised that everyone over the age of two would get a free assault rifle, he still couldn't take that State. It doesn't help Romney one bit. He has enough problems trying, as a Mormon, to convince the ultra-right, born again Christian nutbars to support him. Most of these idiots consider Romney too liberal.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Still don't see why this is an issue in the US and the UK.:confused:

I would like to find some stats on how gays vote ... I have a feeling that they tend to vote in large numbers.
It just seems that he losing popularity and looks to outsiders(I am an outsider) like a vote catching ploy. Maybe it is the cynic in me...I have run out of my anti-cynicism pills...must get some more tomorrow.

Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:31
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991392)
At least the yanks won't be hobbled by EU regulations.
Specially for you Mancie. I never mentioned anything about Barack Obama in this post...or anything to do with Gay marriage.......my statement was short and sweet. All I said was that the yanks would not be hobbled by EU regulations...you made your own inferences about what.

Mancie 13-05-2012 19:35
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991474)
Specially for you Mancie. I never mentioned anything about Barack Obama in this post...or anything to do with Gay marriage.......my statement was short and sweet. All I said was that the yanks would not be hobbled by EU regulations...you made your own inferences about what.
Oh cheers for that.. and just for you any legislation regarding same sex marriage made by the UK government could not be restricted or "hobbled" by the EU.;)

Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:38
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Couldn't it? It seems to get into every other place quite easily.

Wynonie Harris 13-05-2012 19:41
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991470)
There must be something in the ubiquitous ECHR that covers it...everything else seems to be covered by it.
Maybe they will formulate something so that they have left no stone unturned.
Well, in a way there is...

Strasbourg court rules that states are not obliged to allow gay marriage | Antoine Buyse | Law | guardian.co.uk

They've ruled that countries aren't obliged to have same sex marriages which I suppose is the same as saying they don't have any rules on it.

Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:45
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See...I knew there would be some directive or other.

EU meddling gets on my...erm...mammaries.
As I said to Eric...I have run out of my anti-cynical pills.

Wynonie Harris 13-05-2012 19:51
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991483)
See...I knew there would be some directive or other.

EU meddling gets on my...erm...mammaries.
As I said to Eric...I have run out of my anti-cynical pills.
ECHR and EU are different. But what they're saying is they're not going to tell individual countries whether or not they should have same sex marriages, they're going to leave it up to the country in question. I wish they'd do more of that!

Margaret Pilkington 13-05-2012 19:58
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Yes Steve, they are different.......I have got to the point now where everything to do with Europe, the EU and ECHR brings me out in hives.

Mancie 13-05-2012 20:05
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 991489)
Yes Steve, they are different.......I have got to the point now where everything to do with Europe, the EU and ECHR brings me out in hives.
You just can't beat a truly impartial view on some issues of today..no matter what Europe is to blame :)


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