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never had this under british rail;) BBC News - London Midland rail franchise extended
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Network Rail has £28 Billion of debt. British Rail wasn't allowed any. Perhaps Mr Osborne should send an invoice to the Adam Smith Institute. busting your myth;)
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I'm not saying that rail in the UK is any good now, but I don't have rosy memories of happy customers prior either.
I see that you were happy when it was run by the state, but if it were up to you you would resurrect British Leyland....... As I recall you couldnt even admit they were rubbish. Produced garbage cars that were as poorly designed as they were badly engineered. At least in my piece I said that it's bad now, and was bad before, and the issue is not ownership but management. On the ownership point there are only a few examples of where govt ownership makes sense. In rail I'm unsure which is best. If you look at state ownership of rail around the world you can see some spectacular examples of it going wrong - like in China for example. In other places it works - Singapore and Taiwan being a couple that spring to mind. In England I think the UK rail system is massively overpriced for the service they deliver. That's probably the only point we'll ever agree on Stan :) |
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they subsidise the raIlways to a tune of 5 billion a year NOW!! then the companies give it to their shareholders. this is a reason they dont explain. labour or tories dont explain to the public.this adds to the deficit of the UK as it was an income and british rail workers and companies paid the proper tax not like the tax dodging outsource companies these days.the stock was also made in the uk thus keeping more money in the uk .this is proof the tories dont have the good of the country in their thoughts.it just ideology and cash for their hedge fund mates. there is a pressure group working on labour to change this.lets hope they listen.
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Not correct Stan. The infrastructure is all owned by Network Rail which is a not for profit company setup without shareholders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Rail
It runs the railway based on its financial needs alone, and no one makes a penny out of it. Under this structure the govt gets to order it about but doesn't have any direct liability (financial or otherwise). The rail operators bid to run lines and pay the government for their franchises. As we saw on the East Coast if their projections or promised standards are not met they lose their franchise and the govt takes over. |
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the railway companies do. network rail and rail track have paid billions to the private railway companies. is this best for the taxpayer? if any train is late even 2 minutes late they get compensation.Network Rail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia so who funds network rail. do the rail companies pay network rail :confused: all the rolling stock they have are all ex British rail locomotives;) its been a massive waste of money.
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Oh he can defend it, Tory at heart.:D
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yes the apt name of work men ,now you call them benefit scroungers;) yes the tories the party of high unemployment you cant defend that.all these myths created by the tories were all lies .they all paid their taxes bought houses contributed to the economy.now youve got these outsource companies who put people on zero hour contracts,dodge paying their tax yes thats contributing to society and the economy.you cant defend it.the quicker the country gets self sustainable the better.stop the money leaving britain,companies paying their tax,companies creating sustainable jobs so they can buy their own houses and give them a bit of pride instead of being walked all over by companies giving them zero hours ....
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east coast mainline has got a 94% customer service satisfaction the highest since records began , punctuality the best since records began,national express walked away from this franchise.there has been a 78% decrease in threats to staff because of less complaints the stock was 27 years old yes old British rail trains which were built in Britain in the north west solid stock. not the cheap new trains that are made abroad.it has a tenfold increase in meals sold.now the tories want to franchise it before the next election.its all about ideology not whats best for the British public.This proves there is no argument this is proof nationalisation works integrated system with network rail.
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it also is the most cost effective franchise ,it is 99% self sufficient ,it also has a million more train journeys.the tories are blinkered look at the state of northern rail.they are still using trains from the early nineties .the only solution is nationalisation.
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