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PM01 24-03-2012 00:23
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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 979651)

To keep them going you don't just need the "Poop" that has been scooped. They end up having to top them up with high quality maize which is at a premium and it just isn't financially viable. As an alternative, in N. Europe they mince up the remains of animals that die on farms and feed that in ...not a nice reality and will probably have the animal rights folk up in arms -but that is he reality of this particular science. The digesters cost millions to set up (many of which come from EU grants to agriculture) and run so ...at the end of the day they are not a viable "ecological" option for now at least.
What's the process of a methane digester? Does it work anything like a gasification plant?

davemac 24-03-2012 09:50
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Its on the front page of the Lancs Evening Telegraph today(so it must be true) under the heading "Name and Shame" irresponsible dog owners will have their photo taken(in Blackburn) and the photo posted on lampposts. I think this is possible a step to far and sound to me that this issue is taking on monster proportions.
I know that this is a problem as some owners will not pick up after their dogs, but I think that the legislation exists already to prosecute these owners. Lets focus on enforcement rather than having people hide in the bushes with cameras wearing night vision goggles, this action could be misconstrued.

Plus all it will mean is that people will be going out in disguise, I myself will have to put on my false beard, whilst wearing a frock with a clog and a pump on my feet,................................. again.

garinda 24-03-2012 09:55
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Will humans, who plop in public places, have their dog's photograph displayed on lamp-posts, to shame their pooches?

jaysay 24-03-2012 10:06
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Originally Posted by davemac (Post 979720)
Its on the front page of the Lancs Evening Telegraph today(so it must be true) under the heading "Name and Shame" irresponsible dog owners will have their photo taken(in Blackburn) and the photo posted on lampposts. I think this is possible a step to far and sound to me that this issue is taking on monster proportions.
I know that this is a problem as some owners will not pick up after their dogs, but I think that the legislation exists already to prosecute these owners. Lets focus on enforcement rather than having people hide in the bushes with cameras wearing night vision goggles, this action could be misconstrued.

Plus all it will mean is that people will be going out in disguise, I myself will have to put on my false beard, whilst wearing a frock with a clog and a pump on my feet,................................. again.
Naming and Shaming is a better idea than DNA, these people will cringe at the thought of being named and shamed

susie123 24-03-2012 10:42
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Originally Posted by PM01 (Post 979687)
What's the process of a methane digester? Does it work anything like a gasification plant?
Anaerobic digestion and gasification are both ways of turning biomass into renewable energy. In the former, the biodegradable waste material is broken down by micro organisms in the absence of oxygen, the end result being mainly methane which can be used as a fuel.

In gasification the biomass is heated to high temperatures with a controlled amount of oxygen to produce a mixture of hydrogen and other gases which again can be used as a fuel. It was the process used in the early gasworks until they were superseded by the use of natural gas whose formula is more akin to the product of an anaerobic digester, being mainly methane.

Here ends today's chemistry lesson!

DaveinGermany 24-03-2012 11:08
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From dog turd to higher Chemistry ! See, Accy web, a font of all knowledge & not just idle chit chat & blather. :D

susie123 24-03-2012 11:25
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 979735)
From dog turd to higher Chemistry ! See, Accy web, a font of all knowledge & not just idle chit chat & blather. :D
Makes a change from balls, Dave, whether of the canine or footie variety...

davemac 24-03-2012 12:09
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 979732)
Anaerobic digestion and gasification are both ways of turning biomass into renewable energy. In the former, the biodegradable waste material is broken down by micro organisms in the absence of oxygen, the end result being mainly methane which can be used as a fuel.

In gasification the biomass is heated to high temperatures with a controlled amount of oxygen to produce a mixture of hydrogen and other gases which again can be used as a fuel. It was the process used in the early gasworks until they were superseded by the use of natural gas whose formula is more akin to the product of an anaerobic digester, being mainly methane.

Here ends today's chemistry lesson!
I have an anaerobic digester at the moment, she is sat on the settee, and I can confirm that the gas given off could power a small village

susie123 24-03-2012 12:12
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Originally Posted by davemac (Post 979741)
I have an anaerobic digester at the moment, she is sat on the settee, and I can confirm that the gas given off could power a small village
That's no way to talk about your better half Dave!

davemac 24-03-2012 12:17
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 979724)
Naming and Shaming is a better idea than DNA, these people will cringe at the thought of being named and shamed
Jay
Enforcement should be enough, if we cant manage with the legislation as it is, then why collect the evidence and compile a database, or snoop about taking photos, we wont be able to enforce that either.

Lets have a license for dogs collected locally to be used to enforce the current laws, and the fines then put in the pot as well. This would incentivise the council as the more efficient they are the more cash is available

davemac 24-03-2012 12:21
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 979742)
That's no way to talk about your better half Dave!
Sue,
You will notice I was very careful with my typing, I didnt actualy say it was my wife, it could have been my girlfriend:kiss:.


Just dont show her this, or I will be in deap doodoo, and there we have it we are back on thread again :alright:

susie123 24-03-2012 12:26
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Originally Posted by davemac (Post 979745)
Sue,
You will notice I was very careful with my typing, I didnt actualy say it was my wife, it could have been my girlfriend:kiss:.


Just dont show her this, or I will be in deap doodoo, and there we have it we are back on thread again :alright:
Actually I thought you were referring to your dog... canine variety ;)
:gooddog:

davemac 24-03-2012 12:43
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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 979747)
Actually I thought you were referring to your dog... canine variety ;)
:gooddog:
No, its definitely my wife, well I think thats were the smell is coming from, there is also the possibility that its me:help:

maxthecollie 24-03-2012 13:18
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Dog Licences will not be enforcible as there will always be owners who will not bother . That type of owner would not bother if anything happened to their dogs

jaysay 24-03-2012 13:56
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Originally Posted by davemac (Post 979743)
Jay
Enforcement should be enough, if we cant manage with the legislation as it is, then why collect the evidence and compile a database, or snoop about taking photos, we wont be able to enforce that either.

Lets have a license for dogs collected locally to be used to enforce the current laws, and the fines then put in the pot as well. This would incentivise the council as the more efficient they are the more cash is available
Err um I thought that was more or less what I was saying Dave, the legislation is in place to deal with these people no need to go OTT ;)


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