Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

so are you poopooing the idea, I know, but there are only so many plop jokes

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Surely it should be number two???

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

One or two lumps?

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Is it ridiculous?

Here is a link to a US news story.

U.S. News - Dog-poop DNA testing raises stench with renters

It says the initial cost to the dog owners for the DNA test will be $30 and when caught fouling they will be fined $100 which will pay for the kit and the test.

Here is a link to a US company that do dog testing PooPrints - BioPet Vet Lab

This link shows that it does only cost $30 to initially test a dog PooPrints - DNA Collection Kit

This link shows that its $50 for 5 dog waste collection kits which makes it $10 per collection PooPrints - Waste Sample Collection Kit

You then have to pay for the test extra. The first link says that the $100 fine covers the cost of the kit and the test.

A cost of $30 each time you buy a new dog sounds dirt cheap to me if it makes the streets cleaner.

All we need is a government with some backbone - oops I see a problem already.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

DNA testing just won't work, but a £5000 fine when some one is caught letting their dog foul, would, I think, focus the mind of irresponsible dog owners

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Much cheaper to do as happened with the benches.

Be proactive.

Remove all pavements and lamp-posts in Hyndburn.

& parks & grass verges & playing fields & ...

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It isn't just the inital, and ongoing cost of DNA testing every single dog, and each new born pup, who's going to go around, taking samples of random dog poo?

Are we going to bring in the army?

Different in a gated community, as in the link Neil gave, of dog owners living in a specific residential area.

There'd be all kinds of legal challenges, if this was introduced.

'No M'lud, Muffy's never plopped in Rhyddings Park, though she is walked their daily.'

'Some naughty kids must have taken her plop-plops there on a shovel, from our front garden.'

'Where she legally lays her dainty little dog eggs, each and every morning.'

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Trees!

Forgot those.

They'll have to go.

Though that will also cut down on bird muck falling from the sky, and less kiddies being blinded, by falling spinning jennies...or conkers.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Love this quote from Neil's link to the US story:

“I pick up my dog’s mess every time he goes, so it would be nice if they would take it out of the deposit to have this done,” tenant Michelle Oakes told KDLT.

She means the deposit they pay when they take on the tenancy of an apartment but I didn't read it like that!

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Plus, every person will have to be tested as well.

So as to rule out human excrement.

Unless you see who, or what's squeezed it out, unless you're an expert turdologist, I should imagine it's fairly difficult to tell who's created it.

As in this infamous, foul smelling case.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ter-36474.html

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We live on a private road with a back lane behind our garden wall that has a grass verge up against the wall. On the other side of the lane is an old cemetery where many people walk their dogs so the incidence of poo in our area is quite high. However the other day I came across a deposit which had definitely not issued from a canine backside.

Some person (I won't call them a human as that is too polite a term for someone who did what they did) had made themselves very comfy in the grass snuggled up against our wall and then proceeded to leave us a present. First they laid down a piece of kitchen roll, then did what they had to do (it was definitely not the shape of a dog turd) and tried to cover it with more tissue, then presumably hutched up their trousers and proceeded on their way. Delightful or not? I leave you to judge the mentality of that individual.

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Yuk.

Though you should perhaps have used a spirit level on it.

To check if it was a paranormal plop.

Left by one waiting to pass over to the otherside.

Where hopefully they have flushing toilets.

http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/a...ry%20ghost.gif

:D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Here is a link to dog law http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/download/9308/law.pdf

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Totally agree with Jaysay. The irressponsible dog owners are to blame. I have seen a lot of dogs being walked were I live and the owners do not bother were their dogs "perform" or will not pick up

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Tell em,I do.;)

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Why not?
Just because you say so?
I have just posted links to a company that shows previous comments about cost are wrong and that either your son-in-law did not know what he was talking about or things have changed a lot in 4 years.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

That is good thank you.

Two things that many people ignore are

and

I see a lot of dogs with a harness on and no collar and a lot walking on the footpath next to their owner but with no lead.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

People are generally unaware of these laws - if a law were to pass that all dogs/owners had to have a license, it would be a requirement of that license for the owner to know the law. There's a petition now for this to happen.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

The thing that irks me (beside walking in dog crap), is the huge numbers of dogs the charities are having to try to deal with because of the general ignorance around this

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

I like this idea.

NYU Student Wants to Convert Dog Poop into Fuel - DNAinfo.com

People could soon be running out in the streets with a bucket. To pick up any dog's plop-plops.

Even if a passing pooch just had a strained look on it's face, and was only thinking about laying a steaming, golden, dog egg.

:gooddog:

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The EU has invested a load of money in methane digesters for the waste from farming -ie what cows produce - they have unfortunately been found not to be as good in practise as in theory as the waste alone is not enough to fuel them. I have visited several and the idea is great as they produce and sell electricity and the "waste" loses it's smell -shame they are not a financially viable option.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Sat in my trailer park the other day, I happened to read on one of those conspiracy website that cars can run on fresh air.

But the world's secret elite rulers are keeping it all hush-hush.

To apparently make more money, and see the breakdown of this planet's current governing bodies.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Rothschilds start investing heavily in pooper-scoopers.

:rolleyes:

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What do they say?

About mud sticking?

Or in this case, dog dirt.

Even David Icke's talking about Hyndburn's very own, Cllr. Canine Mess.

Dog **** Could be Subjected to DNA Testing Under Plans Being Considered by a Council - David Icke Website

Careless talk, even off-the-cuff guff, costs lives...and risks losing votes.

Nutty David Icke!

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics...funny-1967.gif

Woof, woof.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

No Neil its just that I have a little common sense, which you apparently lack on this subject

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Well HBC has made it onto David Icke's web site, as you say Rindi thats really funny:D

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Do you? I think your just being short sighted. The costs I posted are cheap and easily coverable by fines to the dog owner. What we need is a government that is not as short sighted as you obviously are.

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You'd probably find Cherie Blair, being funded by the tax payer via Legal Aid, taking on cases, because peoples' Human Rights were infringed, because they didn't want DNA samples taken from their much loved property.

Of course, they could always take their cases to the European Courts of Justice.

As the backing of the European Union would be needed, before anything like this was introduced.

After all, we are Hyndburn International.

:rolleyes:

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

We have laws in place.

How many people are fined in Hyndburn now, for not cleaning up their dog's mess?

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

I would think the government a few things a little more pressing that talking about dog crap, in parliament, it's not being short sighted its looking at thing logically, DNA testing every dog in Hyndburn and somebody going round scooping up dog droppings, well when you think about it is laughable, if they fine irresponsible dog owners £5k for the first offence, I think these people would think twice about not cleaning up after their little pooch

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

They've been a hot topic on The Archers for some time - but I don't suppose you can get that in Italy...

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Never really followed the Archers Sue -but as for methane digesters they are a highly contentious subject.

To keep them going you don't just need the "Poop" that has been scooped. They end up having to top them up with high quality maize which is at a premium and it just isn't financially viable. As an alternative, in N. Europe they mince up the remains of animals that die on farms and feed that in ...not a nice reality and will probably have the animal rights folk up in arms -but that is he reality of this particular science. The digesters cost millions to set up (many of which come from EU grants to agriculture) and run so ...at the end of the day they are not a viable "ecological" option for now at least.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Mutley will always get my vote!:D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Well you've got to get rid of dead animals somehow, whether the animal rights people like it or not.

We used to take our dead goats to the hunt kennels to be fed to the hungry pack of hounds...

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Sounds rather bloodthirsty...:eek::D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

What's the process of a methane digester? Does it work anything like a gasification plant?

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Its on the front page of the Lancs Evening Telegraph today(so it must be true) under the heading "Name and Shame" irresponsible dog owners will have their photo taken(in Blackburn) and the photo posted on lampposts. I think this is possible a step to far and sound to me that this issue is taking on monster proportions.
I know that this is a problem as some owners will not pick up after their dogs, but I think that the legislation exists already to prosecute these owners. Lets focus on enforcement rather than having people hide in the bushes with cameras wearing night vision goggles, this action could be misconstrued.

Plus all it will mean is that people will be going out in disguise, I myself will have to put on my false beard, whilst wearing a frock with a clog and a pump on my feet,................................. again.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Will humans, who plop in public places, have their dog's photograph displayed on lamp-posts, to shame their pooches?

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Naming and Shaming is a better idea than DNA, these people will cringe at the thought of being named and shamed

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Anaerobic digestion and gasification are both ways of turning biomass into renewable energy. In the former, the biodegradable waste material is broken down by micro organisms in the absence of oxygen, the end result being mainly methane which can be used as a fuel.

In gasification the biomass is heated to high temperatures with a controlled amount of oxygen to produce a mixture of hydrogen and other gases which again can be used as a fuel. It was the process used in the early gasworks until they were superseded by the use of natural gas whose formula is more akin to the product of an anaerobic digester, being mainly methane.

Here ends today's chemistry lesson!

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

From dog turd to higher Chemistry ! See, Accy web, a font of all knowledge & not just idle chit chat & blather. :D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Makes a change from balls, Dave, whether of the canine or footie variety...

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

I have an anaerobic digester at the moment, she is sat on the settee, and I can confirm that the gas given off could power a small village

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

That's no way to talk about your better half Dave!

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Jay
Enforcement should be enough, if we cant manage with the legislation as it is, then why collect the evidence and compile a database, or snoop about taking photos, we wont be able to enforce that either.

Lets have a license for dogs collected locally to be used to enforce the current laws, and the fines then put in the pot as well. This would incentivise the council as the more efficient they are the more cash is available

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Sue,
You will notice I was very careful with my typing, I didnt actualy say it was my wife, it could have been my girlfriend:kiss:.


Just dont show her this, or I will be in deap doodoo, and there we have it we are back on thread again :alright:

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Actually I thought you were referring to your dog... canine variety ;)
:gooddog:

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

No, its definitely my wife, well I think thats were the smell is coming from, there is also the possibility that its me:help:

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Dog Licences will not be enforcible as there will always be owners who will not bother . That type of owner would not bother if anything happened to their dogs

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Err um I thought that was more or less what I was saying Dave, the legislation is in place to deal with these people no need to go OTT ;)

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

I didnt read it that way, but if you say that is what you were getting at will put it down my misunderstanding the gist.

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That is simple like I said before. A dog found with no licence should be taken away and if not collected within a set time with license and fine paid should be put down. Its not fair on the animal being owned by someone who does not care about it.

People appear to like the words not enforcible on here at the moment.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

there was a system in place for dog licenses, but I agree that there would be no easy solution.
Slightly off at a tangent, when you buy a telly, the shop has to inform the tv licencing authority, I know it wouldnt cover all situations but it is a start if people who sell dogs had to inform the council.:dogrun::ooh:

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It sure as hell isn't the dogs fault either, why kill the dog for an irresponsible owners actions

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

How much do you think a dog licence should be?? Seem to be remember they were seven and sixpence in my youth - I'll leave you to work out how long ago that was and then maybe we could come up with an equivalent figure in today's money.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

I think it should vary, £50 if the dog has not had its injections, wormed chipped or neutered(controversial), then a discount for each item undertaken.


Then if the owner has all the items done to him/herself then it should be free

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Microchipping and steriliation for humans?? I know a few who I'd like to suggest for that latter procedure...

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It's the so called owner who should be put down - or at least neutered.

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Many of the people who sell dogs are only in it for the money and do not care for the dogs or they would not breed them in the way they do.

This is two BBC documentaries back to back about dog breeders, many of them registered by the Kennel Club who if you watch the program you will probably agree are part of the problem.

Sorry about the text at the beginning of it but it does explain about the BBC documentary.

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Generally, across the board in the U.K., fines need to be enforced, and increased.

I'm always amazed at the reports in the Observer, of people who've been fined, and how little they have to pay.

A hundred quid for no car insurance, fifty quid for not having a TV licence.

Being so small a penalty, compared with the cost of insurance, or a TV licence, crime really does pay.

Dog licencing would work, if the penalties for not having one were hefty enough.

It seems to work for people who keep dangerous animals as pets.

When I was a child tortoises were two a penny.

Legislation that's been introduced, as brought added responsibility, for those who've still decided to keep them as pets.

The same could equally be applied to dog owners.

I'm sure every responsible dog owner wouldn't have a problem with a licence.

Compared to vet's fees etc, the cost would be negligible.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Its finding those responsible dog owners that not as easy as you think.
I just gave a bag to a bloke in the park because his dog made an offering to the field. He bent down and pretended to pick it up, he was only 30 yards from a dog bin. I asked if he was going to pick it up and he asked if I had a spare bag which I gave him.

I don't leave the house without plenty of bags but it would appear some people don't bother. Maybe he should have been arrested for be equipped to make a mess without bags :D:D

I also saw some kids hanging around the back of the bowling green hut, they were about 16. I walked over with the dog and a girl was relieving herself over the wall on the public foot path. Those bottles of blue stuff they were drinking must go straight through you :eek:

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There are non responsible dog owners near us who I have seen letting their dogs "perform" and do not carry bags. The responsible dog owners like us are being tarred withe the same stick

I don't think you are, a responsible dog owner is just that, responsible.
Just as a responsible driver isn't tarred with the same brush as a drunk driver.

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Oh you're lucky.

I have to pay to go to the circus, to see little mutts wearing tiny hats, walking on their hind legs, and pushing little prams and so forth.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...v4Ec_PLzl4C5jQ

Any way, back to the faecal matter in hand.

Just Google 'Ken Moss dog dirt'.

It's gone global!

Page, after page, after page.

Reported on, worldwide.

As befits an International Council of some renown...on the global stage.

For anyone hard of hearing, that's Google Labour councillor, 'Ken Moss'.

Don't put the similarly sounding 'canine mess' into your search engine. As it could create a health hazard, and perhaps blind a passing kiddy, who happens to fall asleep on your key-board.

Searching for 'canine mess dog dirt' just brings a whole load of other shi'ite, fundamentally not concerning Hyndburn International Council's dogging dollops of shame.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...eGwQoaVzzVZaAA

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Gordon Bennett, i just did, wish i was as famous.:D

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Yes, all publicity's good publicity.

As an old friend of mine, a media whore, used to say.

Hyndburn's been firmly put in the spotlight...yet again.

Even if that light's illuminating a big, steaming pile of dog turd.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

No cashy your just infamous:D

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Hell your right Rindi, Hyndburn the dog poo capital of the world :theband:

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Perhaps this dog poo thing has got out of hand. I agree it is distasteful for dog owners not to pick it up and penalties must be issued using the current legislation, and perhaps it would be likely to happen if we were not subject to all the cutbacks.

But lets keep it in proportion, dog poo is biodegradable, and does not exist forever.

Lets perhaps focus on all the litter that is dropped, the travelers that invade the borough leaving behind a large mess and a big legal bill, the gangs of "kids" that hang around areas intimidating people. The empty shops, the lack of jobs.

Do we really want to be in the spotlight as the town that picks a packet of poo and posts it, then prosecutes.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

What planet are yeh on Dave? Thats sense yer talking.:rolleyes::D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Ya talking like that we'd have the benches replaced outside the Market Hall:rolleyes:

Do you mean the 'Artist Hall'?

Not many stalls left selling downstairs but it seems upstairs is Ab-Fab, for cheap artists.
Erm, I mean cheap artists studios.

Oh hang on though, maybe comment one was correct.

Perhaps if we really hope, the council will pay for a Celebrity trader to come along and take us through the mysterious process of customers parting with cash for goods they require, I know it's an old fashioned idea for a Market Hall to be used for Market stalls, but it was good enough for our ancestors, just maybe with a little effort it could be offered again for us?

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

That would be far too simple Less;)

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I know, I think I had a sudden rush of blood to my head, I'll be more careful next time:alright:

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Ya Dave I should think so too, after all you have an advantage over the rest of use, you were once on the inside looking out, can't put what I really mean on a family web site:D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

I must be thick, I haven't a clue ! and yes generally, but specifically as well

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Welcome to the internet, land of hysteria and 'news' being blown ever so slightly out of proportion.

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http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...ogs-380076.gif

Good boy.

That's the attitude.

I'm sure someone will be along soon.

To clean up the mess, and take a DNA sample from it.

:D

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Ken, Lord of all things doggy, while your about I have heard there are several dogs running about on Huncoat playing fields that might not have the legally required collar and tag with owners name and address on. Please send the dog warden to remove these strays. You may wish him to be accompanied by a Police officer.

It couldn't have been, 'blown out of proportion', if someone hadn't mentioned it to the press in the first place who did that Ken?

Please don't be so patronising next time you post on here, we know things can be blown out of proportion, someone even gave the press a story about doggy poo and night vision glasses! Whoever it was should rejoin the real world, maybe good old fashioned fine enforcement would bring better P.A. results?

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I thought this had been gone through? Saying something, and being misunderstood and overheard is not the same as speaking to the press!

As for the night vision goggles, that one was actually true wasnt it? My cousin works for a council down south and she says their wardens use them as well. Been pretty standard for ages, she says otherwise the streets would get covered overnight. I think its q sensible. Whereas the DNA stuff is obviously pie in the sky.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Or Poo on the floor:D

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No, Hyndburn isn't any getting night-vision goggled commandos, seeking out doggy plops laid under the cover of darkness.

Apparently this story also originated when a dog-warden spoke to a reporter 'off-the-cuff'.

Might be an idea if all these blabber mouths wore tank-tops.

Then they'd have no cuffs to blab from.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Just shows the mentality of dog owners dahn sarf - going out under cover of darkness to carpet the area with their doggies' doings.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Its just the same up north, its always worse during winter when its dark and some owners just kick the dog out for a bit because they dont want to walk it in the cold and rain

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It was the picture conjured up by the quote that I was wondering about:

Been pretty standard for ages, she says otherwise the streets would get covered overnight.

How many dogs would you need to "cover the streets overnight" - or are they especially large and/or with a tendency to looseness in their leavings?

Sorry, I won't go any further with this, it's beginning to put me off my lunch... :ooh::nono8:

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Im pretty sure it was the DNA story that was 'off the cuff'

The night vision goggles story in the paper had a picture of Hyndburn's dog warden wearing the said goggles - so I imagine it's true!

Ken Moss explained this earlier in the thread.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Now that you are a global phenomenon it might be a good time to bring out a single to cash in on the fame; perhaps "how much is that doggy in the window" or "me you and a dog named boo" or "hounds of love"



You could then follow this with a dance video and have Snoop Dog as a guest.........I know....i'm being silly....just off to my darkened room for a cup of complan

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Errr... no. Read this thread

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...r-60557-7.html

from about post 100 to see what actually went on.

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No, we're definitely not having these goggles in Hyndburn, and this information came from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

When the Deputy Leader of H.B.C. came and knocked on my door.

Primarily she'd come to confirm that the benches removed from outside of the Market Hall, had been damaged beyond repair, when they were being dismantled, but I was a very naughty boy, because apparently I'd been misinformed about the gypsies being told to take them away.

It was on this same occasion that I was also informed that the dog wardens in Hyndburn won't be issued with night-vision, ploppy seeking goggles.

The 'story' came about when a journalist spoke to a dog warden, and he shot from the hip, with some of these ever so popular, off-the-cuff blabberings.

I believe, for speaking to the press unofficially, he'd landed himself in some dolloping doggy doo-doo.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Or how about a reworking of that old hit of Mud's?

That's neat,
That's neat.
That's neat,
That's neat.
I really love my turd free feet.

I really love,
I really love,
I really love my turd free feet.

http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/mus...p/guitare2.gif

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Hi all, I'm the Lancashire Telegraph's Hyndburn reporter Emma Cruces

Don't usually post opinions but thought this may clear up some things regarding your debate.

My story on the night vision goggles was based on information from Fran Gibbons, Hyndburns dog warden. I was surprised to hear they used them but Fran was happy to pose in a picture wearing the goggles from his own kit. Hope this clears thing up.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Sorry Emma was that pic in the Lancs Telegraph?

In the two pics used by the Daily Mail there is no sign of the night vision goggles - just a prat in a rather silly hat.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

Well there's one thing for sure the local press are interested in Accyweb:D:D

Are they?
If they were perhaps when they run with a story they read on here, they would call us AccringtonWeb instead of, a local website, what harm would it do?

Perhaps, this is the reporter that is rumoured to have horseriding in common with a certain Councillor and just might be trying to relieve the pressure he may have put himself under when mentioning DNA testing for dogs?
Please place the word allegedly wherever it may be fitting in this post.

;)

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An Hyndburn Councillor Horse riding Less, is that on the flat or over the jumps:D

I believe it's a Circus act, he has a natural talent to put himself through the hoops.

Re: Omg ott! DNA for dogs
 

We were informed on here, by those in the know, that Hyndburn Borough Council used to be 'like a pantomime'.

Now it's a circus.

Big top.

Acrobatic ponies.

Er...clowns.

http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticon...gif?1292867571

We just need one more of these doggy tails/tales*, and we'll have a three ring Circus.
It will make a change watching the attendants cleaning up after something other than the elephants.

*delete as applicable.

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And they say they have no money,so who s pocket is that comeing out of then.