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cashman 24-07-2012 21:52

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1004589)
Yes but even in the States I'm not sure most people would take their guns to the cinema.

Well Mr Holmes did susie.:eek::D

kestrelx 24-07-2012 22:30

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Eye witness accounts contradict official version that there was only one person involved in this attack! :confused:

Batman Massacre: Eyewitness Testimony CONTRADICTS Official Story - YouTube

cashman 24-07-2012 22:36

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Yeh never know, many want the 5 mins of fame, but would imagine a phone record check aint beyond em.

Retlaw 24-07-2012 22:42

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1004425)
Its laughable that the government have allowed pistol shooting to go ahead at the London 2012 Olympic when the handguns they will be using are illegal in the UK.

If hand guns are so bad they have been made illegal we should not be holding shooting competitions in this country.

The only time the competitors will be allowed to have their pistols is when they take part in a competition, at all other times they will be kept in the armoury at Bisley. They will not even see them after they enter their transport to the UK, customs & excise will have them in sealed containers. The UK competitors will have to get theirs transferred from France, or the other places they practice.

Neil 24-07-2012 22:57

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1004613)
The only time the competitors will be allowed to have their pistols is when they take part in a competition, at all other times they will be kept in the armoury at Bisley. They will not even see them after they enter their transport to the UK, customs & excise will have them in sealed containers. The UK competitors will have to get theirs transferred from France, or the other places they practice.

All that to perform in a sport that is illegal in the UK

Eric 24-07-2012 23:13

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1004595)
They may do now ;)

Ain't that the truth.:D

kestrelx 25-07-2012 06:43

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1004615)
All that to perform in a sport that is illegal in the UK

Are you an angry ex-hand gun owner or something? As you don't seem happy that they've been banned?

kestrelx 25-07-2012 06:45

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1004612)
Yeh never know, many want the 5 mins of fame, but would imagine a phone record check aint beyond em.


This guy in this clip says there was only one guy shooting but he seems to have missed the phone call bit at the beginning. He also says it only last 2 mins...

Colorado 'Dark Knight' Shooting Witness: 'I Saw A Guy Right Next To Me Getting Shot' - YouTube

jaysay 25-07-2012 18:19

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1004631)
Are you an angry ex-hand gun owner or something? As you don't seem happy that they've been banned?

I think the answer is, if they're banned why are so many people still being shot on the streets of this country, banning hand guns didn't do a blind thing to improve the situation what so ever

kestrelx 25-07-2012 18:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1004810)
I think the answer is, if they're banned why are so many people still being shot on the streets of this country, banning hand guns didn't do a blind thing to improve the situation what so ever

You can't really say for sure - it may have been worse if hand guns were still legal!

Latest news about this Colorado shooting is that the guy who allegedly did it, sent a notebook to a psychiatrist describing that he wanted to kill people - the letter/package wasn't opened till after the incident!

http://news.yahoo.com/report-colorad...99.html?_esi=1

Eric 25-07-2012 19:36

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Looks like my neighbours are going to have even more gnus (Jaysayism;)):

U.S. gun sales surge after Colorado theatre massacre - World - CBC News

Those guys are unbelievable, eh. Can't wait for the next one. If those fun loving guys in Syria don't crank it up a notch, Damascus will be a safer holiday destination than Detroit.:eek:

Retlaw 25-07-2012 19:43

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1004825)
You can't really say for sure - it may have been worse if hand guns were still legal!

Latest news about this Colorado shooting is that the guy who allegedly did it, sent a notebook to a psychiatrist describing that he wanted to kill people - the letter/package wasn't opened till after the incident!

Report: Colorado shooting suspect sent plans notebook to psychiatrist - Yahoo! News

Ex Chief Inspector Coline Greenwood did a survey of gun crime & gun laws from the introduction of the 1937 Fire Arms Act, as more fire arms laws were introduced gun crime increased, the police & home office mantra was the gun owners are to blame, then came Hungerford & more laws, all fire arms owners had to have a photograph on their permit, and acess to medical records, gun crimes increased yet again, stiil the home office blamed the gun owners for the increased gun crime. Then came Dumblane, & Hamiltons rampage, he was not a member of any of the local gun clubs, they wouldn't have him as a member, even the local sergeant in charge of fire arms had recommended he should have his permit withdrawn, but he was over ruled.
Following that Blair rode into power on the promise to band all hand guns. Guess what gun crime has increased out of all proportion to its previous levels.
Who can the police & the home office blame now, what did the ban on pistol shooting achieve.
The only thing it did was brainwash every one into the thinking that guns are evil, even kids can no longer play cowboys & indians, without some brainwashed clown reporting them to the plod, who turn out like a septic swat team, acting like they are up against John Wayne & the Commanchero's.
You'd be surprised how many time the cops have lost their side arm, and the number of accidental discharges is disgraceful.

jaysay 26-07-2012 09:28

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1004875)
Ex Chief Inspector Colin Greenwood did a survey of gun crime & gun laws from the introduction of the 1937 Fire Arms Act, as more fire arms laws were introduced gun crime increased, the police & home office mantra was the gun owners are to blame, then came Hungerford & more laws, all fire arms owners had to have a photograph on their permit, and access to medical records, gun crimes increased yet again, still the home office blamed the gun owners for the increased gun crime. Then came Dunblane, & Hamilton's rampage, he was not a member of any of the local gun clubs, they wouldn't have him as a member, even the local sergeant in charge of fire arms had recommended he should have his permit withdrawn, but he was over ruled.
Following that Blair rode into power on the promise to band all hand guns. Guess what gun crime has increased out of all proportion to its previous levels.
Who can the police & the home office blame now, what did the ban on pistol shooting achieve.
The only thing it did was brainwash every one into the thinking that guns are evil, even kids can no longer play cowboys & indians, without some brainwashed clown reporting them to the plod, who turn out like a septic swat team, acting like they are up against John Wayne & the Comancheros.
You'd be surprised how many time the cops have lost their side arm, and the number of accidental discharges is disgraceful.

Absolutely Spot On Walter, the more rules are made the more people want to ignore them, its the thumb nose at officialdom syndrome

Neil 26-07-2012 10:58

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1004631)
Are you an angry ex-hand gun owner or something? As you don't seem happy that they've been banned?

No, never owned or fired a hand gun.

It was a complete waste of tax payers money banning hand guns and has done nothing to reduce gun crime which was the excuse for the ban. In reality it was all about politicians jumping on the band wagon to gain support for themselves by those stupid enough to think it would reduce gun crime.

I take it you are one of those that think it has reduced gun crime?

kestrelx 26-07-2012 23:35

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1005063)
No, never owned or fired a hand gun.

It was a complete waste of tax payers money banning hand guns and has done nothing to reduce gun crime which was the excuse for the ban. In reality it was all about politicians jumping on the band wagon to gain support for themselves by those stupid enough to think it would reduce gun crime.

I take it you are one of those that think it has reduced gun crime?

Have you looked at all the statistics? To be honest I can't say for sure of it has reduced it? The increase in violence may be for other reasons than access to guns - perhaps it would be worse if hand guns could still be obtained under licence?

Take airguns - they were used by many "idiots" in our society and it's the actions of those idiots that got the stricter airgun laws brought in - in which one can be imprisoned and or fined for using air-guns in away that breaks the law.


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