Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1005239)

Have you looked at all the statistics? To be honest I can't say for sure of it has reduced it? The increase in violence may be for other reasons than access to guns - perhaps it would be worse if hand guns could still be obtained under licence?

Take airguns - they were used by many "idiots" in our society and it's the actions of those idiots that got the stricter airgun laws brought in - in which one can be imprisoned and or fined for using air-guns in away that breaks the law.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1005259)

Use an air gun in an inappropriate way and your breaking the law so why more legislation

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1005410)

Gun laws won't stop a thug like this character getting a gun and blowing someone away in the street off a whim! Agree 100%

'Psycho' gets at least 30 years - UK News - MSN News UK

Thing is this guy will live of his vicious actions in prison and be respected by criminals. This is why he should be kept in solitary confinement which will stop him from bragging about his crime and being some kind of hero.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1005413)

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1005410)

Thing is this guy will live of his vicious actions in prison and be respected by criminals.

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1005435)

You speaking from first hand experience, reading the daily mail or watching Dirty Harry films?

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1005439)

from those types of people he'll get respect...

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1005441)

Why should we give a fig about whether or not he gets respect from other useless losers in prison? All that matters is that none of them ever get let out.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1005466)

That's the point though, the scum was only given a maximum of 30 years, so he could get out. No such reprieve for the poor lad who he callously shot, or his heartbroken parents. In cases of coldblooded murder like this, life should mean life...and in the harshest of conditions.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1005480)

That's why I kind of like the American sentencing, Life without the possibility of parole, 40 years to life, or better still the needle, gas chamber or the chair, which is exactly what these scumbags deserve:mad:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1005481)

Yeh n while any silly sod can buy a gun yon, At least they give em more realistic sentences when apprehended.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1005239)

...Take airguns - they were used by many "idiots" in our society and it's the actions of those idiots that got the stricter airgun laws brought in - in which one can be imprisoned and or fined for using air-guns in away that breaks the law.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1005508)

You always could be

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1005409)

Well they had to redefine the law because a lot of thugs were using airguns in crime and intimidation as it was legal to use them in your own back yard and there were no laws - they had to change it to disallow use within 100metres of a public place. Which means you can no longer shoot one in your garden or backyard unless 100 metres from another's property or public place - just in case of stray pellets hitting someone nearby.