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Wynonie Harris 29-01-2013 15:16

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1039689)
if we hold a referendum the only people who should get a vote are those born here

whats the point in holding a vote where people who have just arrived to teh country can influence the outcome

So, you're telling me my missus wouldn't get a vote? Despite the fact she's lived here 27 years, paid her full whack of tax and national insurance while workng for the NHS? But some British-born chav who's never done a day's work in his life will get a vote?

Utter crap.

accyman 29-01-2013 15:21

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1039694)
So, you're telling me my missus wouldn't get a vote? Despite the fact she's lived here 27 years, paid her full whack of tax and national insurance while workng for the NHS? But some British-born chav who's never done a day's work in his life will get a vote?

Utter crap.

fair point but something should be done to prevent someone whos just used the eu system and dropped from the underneath of a truck from having a say and in fairness i did say people who have just arrived to the country but i see your point on the born here part.

Guinness 29-01-2013 15:26

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 1039682)

David Cameron has been talking a lot recently about his aim of ‘re-negotiating’ the UK’s relationship with Europe, and ‘repatriating’ regulations that originate with the EU.

The Working Time Directive is a set of work related regulations at the top of many Conservatives’ lists to overturn.

But stepping away from the EU jargon on the issue, this legislation contains a lot of very basic protections at work that people in the UK now take totally for granted – holidays, lunchbreaks, days off and more.

I think a sensible debate on the EU where people can make up their own mind based on their lives is critical. #forgetstraightbananas

And what pray tell is to stop us from creating our own laws on working time...is the British Government too stupid to create it's own set of fair and unbiased employee/employer laws without guidance from Eurocrats? #forumsdontneedhashtags

Wynonie Harris 29-01-2013 15:28

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1039696)
fair point but something should be done to prevent someone whos just used the eu system and dropped from the underneath of a truck from having a say and in fairness i did say people who have just arrived to the country but i see your point on the born here part

Only British citizens are able to vote in general elections, so surely that would apply to any referendum? Certainly, illegals can't vote and I'm pretty sure those from other EU countries can't either.

accyman 29-01-2013 15:29

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1039698)
Only British citizens are able to vote in general elections, so surely that would apply to any referendum? Certainly, illegals can't vote and I'm pretty sure those from other EU countries can't either.

in all honesty i dont know what rights they do and do not have.After all prisoners now get a vote so god knows whats ok and not ok these days

Wynonie Harris 29-01-2013 15:38

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1039699)
in all honesty i dont know what rights they do and do not have.After all prisoners now get a vote so god knows whats ok and not ok these days

Don't think prisoners have actually got the vote yet, although the meddlers of the ECHR are pushing for it. Definitely sure that only British citizens can vote in general elections though, so the same would apply to referendums I would have thought.

jaysay 29-01-2013 17:30

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 1039644)
If he's so greedy then why did he give up his district seat and step aside as Leader of the Labour Group? He could have been Leader of the Council, Burnley MP has made the decision to have all those roles at once in the past.

Graham wanted to maintain his County role to keep abreast of things but in the end it proved a bigger job than he imagined. At least he is a man who can admit when a decision is not in the best interests of the public and the money thing is a cheap shot, I expected better of you.

Especially with certain ex-mates of yours clutching at straws to justify £43k a year.

It taken him three years to find that out, and as for a cheap shot it's money the council tax payer have had ripped out of their pockets he's been trousering twice for those three years, if it were Britcliffe you would be jumping through hoops to tells use what a thieving swine he was, and from what I hear Jones is still the figure head behind the scenes at HBC if he says jump the rest of you say how high master.

jaysay 29-01-2013 17:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1039698)
Only British citizens are able to vote in general elections, so surely that would apply to any referendum? Certainly, illegals can't vote and I'm pretty sure those from other EU countries can't either.

They can't Wyn your right, well I'm saying that but it certainly was the case when I was actively involved, but Europe has done lots of silly things since those days;)

jaysay 29-01-2013 17:39

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1039694)
So, you're telling me my missus wouldn't get a vote? Despite the fact she's lived here 27 years, paid her full whack of tax and national insurance while working for the NHS? But some British-born hiv who's never done a day's work in his life will get a vote?

Utter crap.

I think in your good ladies case Wyn she would qualify after being residential for a certain number of years and quite rightly so, but the ones using European law to come over here shouldn't get a anywhere near a ballot box

jaysay 29-01-2013 17:41

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1039697)
And what pray tell is to stop us from creating our own laws on working time...is the British Government too stupid to create it's own set of fair and unbiased employee/employer laws without guidance from Eurocrats? #forumsdontneedhashtags

He won't answer that Guinness because he'll need to ask Mr Ed first;)

DaveinGermany 29-01-2013 18:19

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1039698)
Only British citizens are able to vote in general elections, so surely that would apply to any referendum? Certainly, illegals can't vote and I'm pretty sure those from other EU countries can't either.

And just how many "New" British citizens were born outside of the UK ?

http://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk...pts-and-trends

Ken Moss 29-01-2013 20:02

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1039709)
It taken him three years to find that out, and as for a cheap shot it's money the council tax payer have had ripped out of their pockets he's been trousering twice for those three years, if it were Britcliffe you would be jumping through hoops to tells use what a thieving swine he was, and from what I hear Jones is still the figure head behind the scenes at HBC if he says jump the rest of you say how high master.

From what I hear.....sources say.....I heard that....

Nothing attributable as usual.

Why not just say you've been talking to an Oswaldtwistle Councillor who hates Graham and have done?

cashman 29-01-2013 20:08

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Think yer way off mark wi that un ken.:rolleyes:

Guinness 29-01-2013 20:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1039713)
He won't answer that Guinness because he'll need to ask Mr Ed first;)

Yeah....he talked of repatriating regulations but only mentioned the working time directives, wonder if he'd feel the same about repatriating regulations on Foie Gras ;)

Pate de Foie Gras: Imports: 28 Jan 2013: Hansard Written Answers and Statements - TheyWorkForYou

MargaretR 29-01-2013 20:30

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I can imagine that, in parliament, getting goosed is an occupational hazard.
Urban Dictionary: goose

..need to walk sideways with back to wall at all times ;)


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