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You didn't, did you?

Thread wander, OK let's get back to the serious, boring stuff.

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[QUOTE=Gordon Booth;1053033]You didn't, did you?

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In reality didn't and wasn't Mr B ;)

Boring... here's a boring comparitor....
In 1981 3.7 million households lacked or had to share either an inside toilet or bath, By 1991 less than 300,000 did.
Make of that what you will.

Plenty of places store all that coal if it was still available? ;)
That's without having to take into consideration all the coyle oils that have been converted into pit-bull terriers kennels as per up Woodnook ;)

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100% agree with those figures, as technology advances the need for human interaction reduces, one guy with a power drill will make a hole a darn sight faster than a few guys with picks..nobody is disputing the need for streamlining the workforce..I'm disputing the need to dismantle a whole industry based on unsound short term economic reasons and a bar brawl between a barmy politician and a barmy union leader

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We spend all this time discussing, arguing, falling out about the past.
It's past, we can't change it. Our old industries are dead.
Wouldn't we be better discussing, arguing and falling out about the way foreward? It would still be pointless, those in power will never listen but-

Start fracking as much and as quickly as possible with contracts which say all gas produced is for sale in the UK only at prices agreed by the Government- no price agree, no contract. A side benefit- jobs for Lancashire.
Tell the power companies if they don't build nuclear power stations PDQ we'll put a surtax on them and build our own.If they put prices up above world prices to cover the surtax we'll hit them again.
We still have some good science and technology companies- give them tax benefits and grants and push them foreward hard.Encourage others to come here.
Do the same with the medical companies.
Put money into the industries the Chinese and other cheap labour countries can't match.
We own the banks- start acting like it! Bonuses are paid on results, after results, not just because you're there.In shares! If you mess up in the future your share bonus won't be worth as much. If you don't like it- go,there are plenty of young bloods to replace you and they couldn't do worse.

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I agree we should have become Hi-Tec, But why did we not? Probably cos the greedy barstewards yeh blindly support, pocketed the profits not re-invested, also probably when that penny dropped twas too late.:rolleyes:

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Leave the forum for a day and come back to 7 pages of discussion, nice.

Mog – interesting post, and I respect your opinion. I don’t fit so well into your stereotype though. I’m sure it would suit people if I came from Kensington, but I do not. Born in Ashinton, both grandparents were also lifelong miners, lives cut short by coal related lung issues. So much for safety. I would have made the worlds worst miner because I’m 6ft 10.

One good thing about our not mining coal today is that we still have it. One day it may be worth digging up (just as Shale mining became viable due to the high oil price), so one day will coal, and we’ll have it. Imagine that – leaving something other than debts to future generations…..

Cashman – I know you wont enter the debate, true of any debate though, right?

Less – I thought the link was a good representation of my opinion, didn’t need to say more as it was an excellent summary. Re your wife’s credit card – both consumerism and capitalism are terrible economic systems.

Noone want to blast my point about how coal is the most polluting way to produce electricity? It’s true Mog that we had the cleanest coal tech in the world, but that doesn’t make it particularly clean.

Excellent posts Gordon, and you’re correct in pointing out what we need to debate is the future and not the past.

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now there is 5 ships anchored of the coast now full of coal corinthian pheonix,anangel ocean,vogerunner ,ostermarsch, aquagrace and raba all waiting full of coal.and these arent mickey mouse these are massive.

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Come on Mr c ... I thought you had more oil in your miners lamp than that ;)

1986 ..Study the printing industry and the move to High Tech Wapping out of Fleet Street with its old outdated and restrictive working practices.

or the shipbuilding industry..ditto e.g. One man to heat the rivet, one to carry it to the riveter(s) and two to put it in the hole and swage the head.

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nah i won't enter any debate wi you,its that simple. I will say though using yer grandparents as a safety excuse, is pathetic n insulting to em in my view, cos when they must of started working down the pits, there was hardly any safety, as in most industries,:rolleyes: also i never use 100 words, when 10 will do, i don't waffle, so suffice to say i don't really like yeh,

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yours did a long time ago:rolleyes:

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Well it never did you any harm can't understand why it had to change:D

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Think you've got that spot on Mr. D. there are always to ways at looking at things and how to tackle them, there would be no need for elections if everybody was like minded;)

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Oh I forgot, and wouldn't Accyweb be dull as well:D

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Speaking of oil in lamp DtheP, 1986 was a bit too late, The rot started more n 30 yrs before that wi the cotton industry, old looms etc, replaced by new in India n eastern places, also No health n safety, pay much less, fer obvious reasons, If re-investment had occured in the U.K. the decline of industry would have been much slower.

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Only a minor correction here, DIL=Daughter-In-Law, I think she would have a few sleepless (and lonely), nights at the thought of being my spouse!
:D