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Less 01-06-2013 14:23

william hague
 
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061418)
Pease in our time Less Pease in our time hey;)

Mushy pease, or garden pease full of yet more crosses for the young lives wasted just to satisfy some politician?

It doesn't matter which party kills our soldiers, it is wrong and looks like it will happen again.

Do you really approve of such action?

jaysay 01-06-2013 14:44

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1061419)
Mushy peas, or garden peas full of yet more crosses for the young lives wasted just to satisfy some politician?

It doesn't matter which party kills our soldiers, it is wrong and looks like it will happen again.

Do you really approve of such action?

Its wrong when any soldier loses his life Less especially on the streets of our own capital city when they are out for a walk, unarmed. But why do we have armies, just for show, why are we members of NATO, if everything in the world were as easy as sitting in front of a computer wouldn't it be great, Britain isn't, for its size, a world power by sitting on its hands and leaving everything to others, we have the best military brains in the world, I don't know enough about Syria nor do I expect do other people, except what we see on the box or read in the Guardian etc. if that's your poison, So I'll leave the decisions to those elected to make them, who to be fair have a hell of a sight more knowledge about the problem than the rest of use put together, but there is always the other answer isn't there, join the ranks who actually do won't to do something about it and get elected

Less 01-06-2013 14:50

william hague
 
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061421)
Its wrong when any soldier loses his life Less especially on the streets of our own capital city when they are out for a walk, unarmed. But why do we have armies, just for show, why are we members of NATO, if everything in the world were as easy as sitting in front of a computer wouldn't it be great, Britain isn't, for its size, a world power by sitting on its hands and leaving everything to others, we have the best military brains in the world, I don't know enough about Syria nor to I expect do other people, except what we see on the box or read in the Guardian etc. if that's your poison, So I'll leave the decisions to those elected to make them, who to be fare a hell of a sight more knowledge about the problem than the rest of use put together, but there is always the other answer isn't there, join the ranks who actually do won't to do something about it and get elected

Cutting through the above bull, you have no problem with politicians needlessly sending our soldiers to their deaths, because once you've put a cross in a box you don't need to think anymore.

cashman 01-06-2013 15:02

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061421)
Its wrong when any soldier loses his life Less especially on the streets of our own capital city when they are out for a walk, unarmed. But why do we have armies, just for show, why are we members of NATO, if everything in the world were as easy as sitting in front of a computer wouldn't it be great, Britain isn't, for its size, a world power by sitting on its hands and leaving everything to others, we have the best military brains in the world, I don't know enough about Syria nor do I expect do other people, except what we see on the box or read in the Guardian etc. if that's your poison, So I'll leave the decisions to those elected to make them, who to be fair have a hell of a sight more knowledge about the problem than the rest of use put together, but there is always the other answer isn't there, join the ranks who actually do won't to do something about it and get elected

Funny how yeh didn't use the same argument fer Blair.:rolleyes:

Guinness 01-06-2013 15:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061421)
So I'll leave the decisions to those elected to make them, who to be fair have a hell of a sight more knowledge about the problem than the rest of use put together

Simple flaw in that argument my friend....that would mean that they are more knowledgeable about the EU than you, and you should therefore leave the decision to them.

cmonstanley 01-06-2013 16:40

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The full region is like a tinderbox just look at the riots in Istanbul ,all started by a protest about a park .i would avoid the region like the plague as the full region is going to kick off big time.Yahoo! Maps, Driving Directions, and Traffic all these surrounding countries.no wonder Moscow is nervous forgot how close it is to this region

Wynonie Harris 01-06-2013 17:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061421)
So I'll leave the decisions to those elected to make them, who to be fair have a hell of a sight more knowledge about the problem than the rest of use put together, but there is always the other answer isn't there, join the ranks who actually do won't to do something about it and get elected

So, the logical conclusion to that argument is that none of us should criticize any government because they have a "sight more knowledge" than us. Curious how that doesn't seem to apply when you're having a go at the last government? ;)

jaysay 02-06-2013 08:17

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1061422)
Cutting through the above bull, you have no problem with politicians needlessly sending our soldiers to their deaths, because once you've put a cross in a box you don't need to think anymore.

At least I put a X in a box which gives me the right to a say, usually those people who shout the loudest never bother there arses to go to the polling station;)

jaysay 02-06-2013 08:24

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1061432)
So, the logical conclusion to that argument is that none of us should criticize any government because they have a "sight more knowledge" than us. Curious how that doesn't seem to apply when you're having a go at the last government? ;)

ya but the last government did have a track record of being Less than economical with the truth, more than most governments usually do, remember the, promises before the 1997 election. Whiter than White Government, Education Education Education, Tough on Crime Touch on the causes of crime, 24 hours to save the NHS and a few more

Less 02-06-2013 08:36

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1061378)
As a new and no doubt keenly devout member of UKIP would it be possible for you to give us UKIP's opinion on the arming of rebels?

Remember the above?
Plenty of replies from you defending a Tory but nothing about your
parties view!

It is a legitimate question and I would have thought easy for you to answer you'll have looked into all of their aspects before joining.

Or are we going to have to keep asking you again and again for an answer?

Perhaps you would rather avoid the answer, a bit like c'mon and his plan B.
:)

jaysay 02-06-2013 08:49

Re: william hague
 
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1061487)
Remember the above?
Plenty of replies from you defending a Tory but nothing about your
parties view!

It is a legitimate question and I would have thought easy for you to answer you'll have looked into all of their aspects before joining.

Or are we going to have to keep asking you again and again for an answer?

Perhaps you would rather avoid the answer, a bit like c'mon and his plan B.
:)

Ya me like you've just avoided my last post, nice try Less:p the only thing that interests me about UKIP is they are the only party hell bent on pulling out of Europe, that will do for me.

Less 02-06-2013 09:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061488)
Ya me like you've just avoided my last post, nice try Less:p the only thing that interests me about UKIP is they are the only party hell bent on pulling out of Europe, that will do for me.

Didn't realise your last post required me to answer, it appeared to be your usual rhetoric.

Whereas I had aimed my question at you to try and find out what your new parties views are on the subject.

I personally wouldn't join a party just to be able to put in a protest vote, I can do that anyway, I would however make sure all their other policies agreed with my mind set before parting with any brass, (perhaps I'm tight, I blame my Scottish Father and my Jewish Mother from Yorkshire).
:D

Wynonie Harris 02-06-2013 09:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061484)
ya but the last government did have a track record of being Less than economical with the truth, more than most governments usually do, remember the, promises before the 1997 election. Whiter than White Government, Education Education Education, Tough on Crime Touch on the causes of crime, 24 hours to save the NHS and a few more

.

You are joking, aren't you?

We will withdraw from the Social Chapter, We will abolish the Human Rights Act and establish a British Bill of Rights, We will expand the size of the Army, We will abolish Stamp Duty, We will stop foreign criminals using the Human Rights Act to stay in the country.. .and, of course, there's that EU Referendum which he made a "cast-iron promise" on in 2007 and should have been delivered by now.

Need I go on?

jaysay 02-06-2013 09:26

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1061490)
Didn't realise your last post required me to answer, it appeared to be your usual rhetoric.

Whereas I had aimed my question at you to try and find out what your new parties views are on the subject.

I personally wouldn't join a party just to be able to put in a protest vote, I can do that anyway, I would however make sure all their other policies agreed with my mind set before parting with any brass, (perhaps I'm tight, I blame my Scottish Father and my Jewish Mother from Yorkshire).
:D

Hang on Less I had a granddad from Yorkshire:D

jaysay 02-06-2013 09:29

Re: william hague
 
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1061492)
.

You are joking, aren't you?

We will withdraw from the Social Chapter, We will abolish the Human Rights Act and establish a British Bill of Rights, We will expand the size of the Army, We will abolish Stamp Duty, We will stop foreign criminals using the Human Rights Act to stay in the country.. .and, of course, there's that EU Referendum which he made a "cast-iron promise" on in 2007 and should have been delivered by now.

Need I go on?

That's why I don't like Cameron or had you not noticed, but when you have a party which has one main objective, you can't really go far wrong less to lie about;)


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