Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1062445)

Are these people desparately bonkers ?

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1062449)

yes

even if you could put the spark of life back into a body in the future the cell dammage done by freezing would be irriversable

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1062450)

If that is true how do they freeze sperm and eggs in liquid nitrogen(-196 Centigrade) but still unfreeze them and they are alive and viable?

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1062452)

I want to explain my concept of death - it is in no way connected to any religion, but atheists who do not conceive that life is more than just physical will disagree with me. So be it.

A fear of death is prevalent in humans but not animals - their fear is of pain only because most species have no concept of what death is.

In order to remove fear of death, it helps to read anecdotal evidence from people who died and were resuscitated, and/or have had 'out of body experiences'

Losing the fear of death - Print 4 Half

You can accept that death of the physical body more readily if you are convinced that you have a spiritual body which is indestructible.

If your physical life is so painful that you contemplate ending it - beware that you might be prolonging your agony by guaranteeing you reincarnation/repetition of the agony you thought you were freeing yourself from. Pain and suffering are part of the experience of being in a physical body. Your spiritual body wanted the experience - so grin and bear it until your 'time is up'.

Some here will consider this a deluded hope - I think they will be pleasantly surprised.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1062456)

Well from the above, should we also believe the fantastical stories of 'into body experiences', we read about from the looney tunes that claim to have been abducted and probed by aliens?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1062456)

Well from the above, should we also believe the fantastical stories of 'into body experiences', we read about from the looney tunes that claim to have been abducted and probed by aliens?

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1062460)

I didn't expect I would get any more than this from Less:rolleyes:
Less civility, Less empathy, I don't think has a 'surplus' of anything worth having. :D

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1062457)

As one without religious belief and nothing to look forward to but the great void, a magisterial nothingness. I don't much like the idea of death Margaret but reckon it's mega egotistical to want to foist oneself on the universe forever.

And as my old mate Wandering Walter used to say " It's good manners to give up your place at the table for someone else when the time comes."

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1062463)

What on Earth makes you think your bull deserves anymore praise than my criticism of it does?
You talk bull, I reply to you in a similar fashion so that you and others of a similar ilk may just one day stop trying to make converts to your ridiculous beliefs.
As for the les' jokes, very tired and unoriginal. I would think there is more truth in a little boy being able to stick his finger in a 'Dyke', than any of your weird posts.

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1062467)

if you two went to regression therapy id put a tenner on you two been married in a previous life:D

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1062466)

I don't seek to convert you - 'heaven' forbid (pun intended) that my spiritual body will ever meet yours in the afterlife - that would be 'purgatory':D

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1062469)

Reincarnation (best avoided if poss) doesn't usually involve having two miserable lives consecutively - since I have had a hard time in this one I don't think so;)