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6 out of 10 Dave I'll settle for that.
I'll give you 8/10 on Tellings Rules 14 through 17 then.

14) Celebrities don't have feelings.
15) Nor does anybody else for that matter.
16) Except you. Although beware - yours are buried beneath a myriad of complex life issues.
17) Learn to love reading and watching everything you loathe. React immediately to all of it.
Might upgrade you when I've thought a bit more about #17 :)

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I'm sure Nazism was abolished due to a unity far removed from the debate today over who should take more or less of these refugees and asylum seekers.

What value does a person put on their principles?
Should we be questioning the integrity of a person who refers to other human beings as vermin and turds and suggests they face persecution at Auschwitch?

How sustained is a commitment to peace and tolerance. A world that is free from fear and animosity and scaremongering over perceived dangers.

Yes of course there are problems at our borders I cannot dispute this but my concern is that the continued tolerance of despicable FOS on here, apparently a child friendly forum, is unnerving.

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There is a report button.(if you feel that any post is unsuitable then I suggest you use it, or contact a mod directly) The mods cannot be everywhere..they have lives to lead as well as look after the site.

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That button seems difficult to grasp fer some.

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Yes....that would be lovely wouldn't it?
A world full of peace and tolerance. Maybe you could go to Raqqa and preach that gospel there. I don't think you would get very far before someone said of with his/her head.
The dangers are not just perceived...they are real. Were you asleep when the Paris massacres happened? That was a demonstration of tolerance and peace for you.

Your line in understatement is phenomenal.....problems with our Borders...that is laughable. Border control haven't a Scooby about who is in this country, whether they should be here or what their motives are.

It would be good if you could outline what your acronym FOS stands for. I can hazard a guess at a few...and none of them are suitable to be on a family friendly forum...so that isn't jsut a bit hypocritical is it??

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Freedom of speech, maybe? Surely not the Financial Ombudsman Service!

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if the poster did mean freedom of speech, then it would have been much better to put that, rather than leave it as an acronym which could be taken for many other less agreeable meanings.
I was always taught that if using an acronym for anything, it should be written out fully then the acronym bracketed so that this could be used in the following text and the meaning was clear.

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Erm, I suspect your reply is FOS like myself you will have checked out the urban dictionary.
:)

I'm finding the whole thread to be an interesting display of tolerance or perhaps the lack of it.
We have a newby from 2005 and our pseudo intellectual preaching for goodness and light whilst condemning (not tolerating) a member for his Auschwitz statement, like them I do find it a touch over the top to even consider something such as the final solution, but, to condemn everyone that is against allowing the illegals in because of this just shows how easy it is to blur the truth with our own little prejudices no matter which side of the fence we attempt to sit on.
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I think you will find that the majority on here won't tolerate less and agreeable to be allowed in the same sentence.
:eek:

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No I don't want to report the posts Margaret, oh no leave em' on here as a testament to free speech and the sad sacks intellectual limitations.

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If you do not want to report the posts which so offend you then do not complain about the mods.
The last time I looked it was against the rules to make disparaging comments about the moderators.
You may think that 'Myopic' is not a disparaging term, but it was in the context you used it.(well, that is unless you are an optician and know for a fact that ALL the mods on here need glasses to correct this condition)

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Perhaps that top quote displays intellectual limitations? in view of the site rules?

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My sincere apologies, I referred to freedom of speech (FOS). I had not realised you would be so pedantic on the use of acronyms Margaret Pilkington given your frequent use of them and a general lack of attention to grammar in your comments. I note also your use of ...

To be a newbie yet a member for so many years is contradictory also.

As for peace, I did not in any way preach this, why should peace necessarily be associated with the gospel? it is inherent in many treaties aimed at protecting and promoting harmony in the world.

I merely asked the questions in my comment (number 102), perhaps some of you took it personally for some reason?

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for your information, I did not post that comment about being a newbie.
I took nothing personally.
I was not being pedantic either. Acronyms can mean different things to different people. If you use an acronym or an abbreviation it is good practice to say first what the acronym or abbreviation means . This ensures that the meaning is clear and cannot be misinterpreted.
As for my grammatical errors...only those who are perfect can criticise those who are not(and I certainly do not profess to be) and lead them to better practice......go back and look at you post 102 and see if you missed out some punctuation.
So your apology was not sincere at all then.

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Looks to me like another know all, know nowt type.:rolleyes:

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As you express criticism about the grammar of others, let's have a butchers at this mess. Let's pass quickly over Nazism being "abolished" and "due to" instead of "because of". Please, it is not "less", but "fewer". And I always thought "person" was singular. Silly me. Perhaps after "How sustained ... tolerance" we should expect a "?", or even "!". The "sentence" that follows, isn't a sentence.

And I would suggest that FOS is not an issue. The offensive post goes well beyond FOS. Even in my enlightened country, we recognize there are limits. Have a nice day.

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You were paying attention during English Language lessons at Accrington Grammar School, Eric. 10 out of 10!

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Looks like i could be correct.;)

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What's the betting that imagined1 turns out to be an English teacher of long standing at one of our Secondary Modern schools?
:D

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OMG! That's a half century ago.:eek:

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I know! I was there 1965 to 1971. We're getting on a bit now, Eric.

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According to :-
Urban Dictionary: omg

OMG
Used by retarded teenagers.
They say it stands for OH MY GOD, but they really mean it stands for OBSERVE MY GAYNESS
Retarded Teenager: OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
Me: I am
Other Person: Hey dip**** is it really too hard for you to spell Oh My God
by Scribbler March 18, 2005

:o

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Despite my comment in post 106, I took FOS to mean something else (Less's suspicions were correct!), so I'm with Margaret regarding the use of acronyms.

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On the internet, I have seen this acronym used to pronounce something to be 'constipated' I suppose would be the polite word......and also for other even less savoury phrases too. Which was why I asked for clarification.

Yes, in the past I have used acronyms without first putting the full terminology(mea culpa).
The most recent being ENT in relation to Nursing.....now I don't know any phrase or slang which could be misconstrued as anything other than Ear, Nose and Throat.
I suppose that imagined1 has trawled through all my posts(so he really hasn't had much time to posy anything here has he?) to check on how many times I have committed this sin(as I said, I am not perfect).

I try very hard not to criticise other peoples failings when it comes to spelling and grammar. I know full well that if you criticise such things, your own posts will be subjected to forensic scrutiny....and anyway, I am so over having Accyweb as my English homework.

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ENT? Weren't Ents in Lord Of The Rings? :-)

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Were they Ents...or ENT......? I don't know I haven't read Lord of the Rings for more than 30 years now. Maybe I should go back to it :D

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If you do, don't get upset with the spelling or grammar, it came from a wonderfully vivid imagination, like wot my posts is innit?

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This is why I like AccyWeb. Cameron makes a flippant comment in Parliament, causing a debate (heated at times) on this site, which then leads to a discussion about good and bad grammar, and finally chit chat about Ents and books. It's varied every day. I might disagree with some of the things said (Grr!), but, all in all, it is an entertaining site.

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so right......and it has made it a lot lighter too. No bad thing.

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totally awesome response i mean like literally;)

To get away from the "swarm" thing ... there are millions of real refugees in Syria and Jordan etc. How are folks over there responding to the resettlement of these? Does the UK government have a target figure, the no. that they are prepared to allow legally into the country? Are British officials on the ground, in Syria and Jordan for example, processing legitimate claimants? And is the sort of mess that is happening in Calais and elsewhere affecting how the British public views legitimate claimants?

The Channel isn't much of a barrier, unlike the Atlantic; but The Channel, and the coasts of Britain can be controlled, especially if the EU minds its own friggin' business.

Not without dissent from many Canadians, particularly in areas where the defeated tories still have some strength, we are committed to taking 25 thousand Syrians .... families and groups at risk first.. We shall probably meet that target by the end of February. Not only the Federal, Provincial, and municipal governments, but also local church groups are sponsoring refugees, many of whom arrived by RCAF transports. Not surprisingly, they seem to like it here.

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I could be wrong here, but I am sure that if I am, I will be soundly corrected by those who are more informed.
My understanding is that the government want to take people from the camps in Syria(I don't know if this is because they can be more assured of where these refugees/migrants originate from). Money has been given by the government to establish these camps and manage the refugees.

There has been a quota set, but for the life of me I cannot think exactly what it is.

As for how the British public perceive the legitimate claimants...of course their view has been affected by what they see happening in other EU countries...but also we are being asked to take on the chin cuts in services......apparently there is no money, yet we can home these refugees/migrants/asylum seekers.

David Cameron was in the North of England yesterday surveying the damage left by the floods. He has pledged some 3 million pounds but the actual cost of the damage (worked out by Price Waterhouse) is nearer to 600 million.
Now when things like this happen in other parts of the world the British people dig deep and donate......and they have been doing that for the folk affected by this disaster....but I am not aware of any aid coming from anywhere else in the world(despite there being an EU fund for such things).
Now I know this may seem pretty small beer next to the suffering that some of the people in the camps have gone through....but people do feel like everyone else comes first.

The refugee crisis was handled very badly from the outset......with EU leaders thinking with the seats of their pants. Not considering long term plans. Mainly because they hadn't any long term plans.

It was obvious that once countries said 'come one come all' that many more would set out on this journey.
Little thought was paid to how these migrants would be housed, schooled and health care looked after. If the infrastructure is not there to support the influx then you can only expect chaos.......and it is the indigent population that are affected, not the politicians.

In truth many of these people should not be in Europe. They seem to despise western lifestyles and they do not integrate where ever they go. It is thought that Sweden is going to deport some 50,000 of them during the next two years.

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Just been reading around a bit ... Seems like the Aussies are taking a whole bunch of Syrians too. Things have changed since Billy Hughes' refusal to sign on to a racial equality clause at Versailles. Not to mention the "Whites Only" immigration policy. Seems to me that the issue is not refugees but the uncontrolled migration of thousands of people from the Middle East, some of whom may not be genuine. Options available: stricter controls at national borders (if there are any left in Europe:rolleyes:), and brass for the cash-strapped countries already sheltering refugees ... you can come up with more, not including the Auschwitz option.

As Margaret pointed out, extremely wealthy Middle Eastern countries ... that most obnoxious of states, Saudi Arabia comes to mind ... are doing sod all to help. Maybe, with a world glut of oil around the corner, it's time to cut loose from our Arab "allies" ... Time to support the one true democracy in the Area, Israel. Oh, and let's help out the Kurdish fighters ... at least get the goddamn Turks off their backs.

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I'll readily admit my ignorance as to whatever it is you're on about! A little insight into whoever or whatever "Tellings rules" are & I may even get back to you with some smart & pithy answer ...... then again, maybe not! :idunno:

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I have never heard of Tellings Rules either.
So you are not on your own there son.

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I'm sure we could all Google them but, no, let him have his moment of false superiority as he gloats over our ignorance and has to inform us of this essential piece of knowledge.

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I think that is a fair appraisal. Many of those coming into Europe are single men who have either destroyed their documents(maybe hoping to be accommodated in Nordic countries as an unaccompanied 'child' migrant - authorities have been told to accept them as a 'child' as long as they appear to be under 40. No medical checks or dental checks to disprove this are done for fear of being discriminatory) or are travelling on false documents.

Also the Dublin agreement is for refugees to make application for residence at the first country where landfall is made, is being totally ignored.

If refugees get to Turkey( a country where the population is largely Muslim) and far less hostile...with an understanding of the culture etc then why would refugees not settle there?

The case where the two young Syrian toddlers and their mother drowned was a case in point. They had been living in Turkey for 4 years, yet embarked on a journey to take them to Europe.
they were not refugees, but economic migrants.

Eric, I do not know what the answer is...except I do know it is not to have this large influx of middle eastern people coming to European countries and expecting to be made welcome.
The people from these countries have tribal cultures(which is why the fight to introduce democracy has been such a failure).
I feel like a foreigner in my own land. I feel as if their needs are ahead of the needs of the people who were born here.

I am being totally honest in my opinion. I am saying it how I see it and how the people that I socialise with and meet in my day to day life see it.

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Er I have put my glasses on now,so can I just point you all to the site rules and rule 13:D

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I didn't know you wore glasses Mick:)

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As in placing 'please PM the mods' in every post :D:D

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Hoist with his own petard.

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Ouch...Painful!

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Meanwhile yesterday in Dover, the right, who were ostensibly there to demonstrate for the rights & protection of our hauliers & truckerists, while the left were there for ..... well, their own agenda it seems.

EXCLUSIVE PICTURES:*Corbyn-Backed Militant Left And Neo Nazis Run Rampage Through Dover - Breitbart

looking at the pictures, those who appear to be the more intimidating & sinister all hooded & masked in black, apparently are those "Peaceable, loving lefties", the "good guys"? No, really? While those despicable racist, nazi types are at least quite easy to be picked out from the crowd especially with their funny haircuts, flags & waving arms.

I know well enough which of the above worry me the most.

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http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/01/DSCF4657.jpg

All those Police vans! Do they not realise it would have been greener to ship them in on coaches like they did in the good old days of the miners strikes?
A bit of thought from the authorities and we can go back to free plastic bags at the supermarkets again. Grrrr.
:hidewall:

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So it's OK to make disparaging posts about the unfortunate flotsam and jetsam of the world then is it Margaret?

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Surfeit of turds I am thinking and that's not about the migrants knocking at the gates.

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Oy, DtP47, you was on here but didn't get back to me about my question in post 133.

A little enlightenment if you please

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Are you not being disparaging when you call them flotsam and jetsam?

I have said in a previous post.....if you feel a post is unsuitable (for whatever reason)then report it, but you declined that advice as you wanted those who had posted such stuff to be seen as intellectually inferior. (or that is what it seemed like)
You, meantime, were making personally disparaging remarks about moderators.
If I am not mistaken this is breaking the rules of the forum.

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Think Margaret has got you pegged there DtP47.

A rather unfortunate choice of words there DtP, the Halo is getting a bit of a tarnish there fella.

Flotsam = people or things that have been rejected or discarded as worthless.

Jetsam = unwanted material or goods that have been thrown overboard from a ship and washed ashore, especially material that has been discarded to lighten the vessel.

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No enlightenment needed D...you positively glow with your rectitude.

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Not sure I like the sound of that Mr.DtP, sounds dubious. ;)

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And there I was thinking the glow was from the booze :)

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Well report me then. :p
I'll bet you was a tale teller at school.

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You would lose your money then.
I have better things to do than police your posts.....
if you knew anything about me then you would know that.

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If it is against the rules the last time.....?Then of course logically it would be against the rules the first time.
Are you calling me a liar?

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An informative article explaining the mentality & attitudes of the "enrichment" seeping throughout europe.

Syrian Prof: Arabs Migrate for 'Sluts' and Welfare, Attack When They Don't Get It

Germany is slowly changing its attitude to the previously welcomed "migrants", opinions are hardening against these people due to recent events, mind you there are still some useful idiots who can't or won't grasp the facts,the main one being Merkel herself.

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Does that mean sales of barbed wire and insulation blocks for electrification will now become more expensive, no doubt only in the poorer areas, after all Merkel won't have felt the effect of immigrants living next door. YET.

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Nah mate, the Krauties are going for other "deterrents".

https://www.rt.com/news/354061-germa...nses-increase/

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i bet some parts of germany wish they hadnt brought that wall down now

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A "value system that is incompatible with modernity." A nice and gentle way of putting it. But we all understand what it means, even with the euphemistic circumlocution. Damn their poxy misogynistic religion. Damn their seventh-century excuse for a culture and a life style. "Culture", "life style":rofl38::rofl38:

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Ah, the poor little lambs!

Migrants Resettled in Low-Benefits Lithuania Feel 'Cheated', Flee to Richer EU Countries

And there's still useful idiots prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt ...... incredulous!

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so it isn't about finding a safe haven thenn in country which is not being bombed out of existence.
Silly me!

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As I mentioned in a previous post "The poor little lambs", it appears that more little "Lammykins" are now arriving on Britains doorstep courtesy of various agencies. Seems some of these folks in charge & their wankerati supporters have a rather differing view of what constitutes a 14-17 year old compared to the likes of me & many others.

Calais migrants: UK Jungle camp refugee children look much older than given ages | UK | News | Daily Express

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Some bleeding heart liberal was on TV last night trying to tell us that these'children' had been prematurely aged by their experiences in their own country and their time in the migrant camp in Calais......please, can they not credit us with some intellect to believe the evidence of our eyes.
The men(for that is what they are) looked well clothed and well nourished. None of them looked haggard (which was how the bleeding heart liberal described them).
Today we have been unable to believe the evidence of our eyes as the filmed faces have been pixelated.

As for our hospitality being taken advantage of......of course that is the conclusion that most people will come to.
These were NOT pitiful children and there were no females in the group.

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What did you expect them to be wearing M upmarket stoneage pelts?

You can't blame them for trying it on,under the circumstances,most folk would try on it for the chance of a better life...wouldn't they?
More hatred being whipped up by the media imo :rolleyes:

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Well can someone explain to me WHY these so called children that were brought in came from Pakistan,@ Bangladesh, as well as Syria? Syria i can understand people trying it on, but the other 2 countries?? these are economic refugees as far as i'm concerned, dick-heads can view it any other way.:rolleyes:

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As a friend of mine from a continent East of Europe asked, " Whose fault is it, their's for trying it on or Britain's for letting them get away with it?"

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Yer friend knows the score @ so do any Brit with an I.Q.above 12.:rolleyes:

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No it isn't hatred whipped up by the media at all.

These are NOT children, so it undermines the idea that children are being assisted out of the camp. These are men who have destroyed their documentation in order to get into the UK. We know nothing of their backgrounds or their motives.....this increases unrest and suspicion and it does nothing at all to alleviate the suffering of true asylum seekers.....and while we are on the subject of those seeking asylum....Asylum seekers are required to seek citizenship of the FIRST non hostile country where landfall occurs.
These men have not abided by these rules so it is clear that they will not be keen to follow the laws of this land.
Many of these men have a strong distaste for western life.....so why do they want to come here.
It does not take much intelligence to say why they come here.

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Exactly why accyx dont grasp it.

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It is the fault of the UK governments and the bleeding heart liberals who believe that we can take all and sundry....even those who harbour hostile intentions towards the country.

Many of those who are supposed to be seeking asylum are not true asylum seekers, they are economic migrants and there are proper channels by which they can gain access to residency, but they do not want to follow the rules and regulations.
No one blames people who want to make a better life....but these people need to go through the proper channels laid down for such things.....if they do not do this then we must suspect that they will not follow other rules in this country.

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I would think anyone of minimal intelligence could grasp the reasons why they want to come here.
I do not think Jason is too dumb to grasp it.....maybe he believes the hogwash that these males ARE children.
I do not believe it.

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Sorry if he even suspects they were children he is dumb simple as.

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I'd agree the lads not dumb, just part of the overwhelming problem caused by whiny leftist woolly thinkers, their fluffy bunny & millennial snowflake thinking has no grasp of the nasty harsh reality of the world that the rest of us fight with daily.

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Not dumb, he always reminds me of Tweedledee.
Through the Looking Glass, by Lewis Carroll

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I think some people(and I am not suggesting that Jason is one of them) feel that it is not politically correct to challenge these loony luvvies. You know the ones I mean Dominic Cumbersome(ok, I know that is not his name)Lily Allen( whose star is waning but has a new album out soon...)those who wish to raise their own profile and feel that this humanitarian cause is as good as any.
Those like Yvette Cooper who said they would take in refugees....but as yet these are just words.....and they don't cut the mustard.

These people are not going to be affected one jot by any number of economic migrants(let's call them what they are. Had they been refugees they would not be heading here...But hey we are a soft touch. Except when it comes to looking after our own needy)...all these minor celebs have the wherewithal to live in gated communities, afford private medical care and can send their children to private schools.
They do not live in the real world.
This is not racist...it is realistic. If we cannot look after our own needy( the sick, the disabled, the Cancer sufferers) then we cannot extend what we do not have to people from another country.

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But we do,simply cos ordinary people like you or i, dont count simple really.;)

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That is the mistake the politerati and the glitterati made last time we had a vote on something.

They wanted us to do what THEY wanted...but there was nothing in it for us.
They tried to scare us, bully us...make us think we were unintelligent bumblers....and to some degree there are still some of them out there doing the same thing and wondering why they are getting nowhere.
They are still trying to make us feel like we are provincial idiots.......they cannot do that without our permission...and I withhold my permission.
I will continue to to say how I see things...what my perspective is.
These people......the politicians, the celebs have one thing in common...they rely on us to give them the lifestyle that we can only dream of

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Oh i certainly agree wi that, also i suspect the yanks may just be making the same mistake,Cameron @ Osborne made.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1179475 bleeding heart liberals[/QUOTE]

Now, now hon. Don't you know that Canada is the home of bleeding heart liberals?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...iberal-trudeau

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Come to think of it, Canada will probably take all these "children" off your hands. Take them down to Land's End; put them in rowboats; give them some bacon butties (halal of course) ... they are great, cold with HP ... and point them west. Reassure them by mentioning that a lad from Clayton did the journey ... no problemo. Hopefully, they will land in St. Pierre et Miquelon:alright:

East Lancs marine breaks world record for rowing Atlantic (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Apparently (again) the Jungle is to be completely demolished starting tomorrow (Mon 24 Oct) Mongsewer 'Ollande is getting serious & righting the wrongs inflicted upon the people of the Republic! (nothing to do with an upcoming election then? Plus the lily livered politicoes are filling their pants at the rise of the Le Pens popularity).

I'm really hoping they see this through although I'm somewhat concerned that traitor May & her sycophantic sidekick Amber Dud have been doing sly backhanded deals with the treasonous "Vichy Frogs". How else can the acceptance of these rather mature "Children", flooding so rapidly, in such numbers & without thorough checks into the UK be reasoned away?

Added to that it seems some of the "Great unwashed" lefty, self loathing, British hating useful Idiots, are heading over the water to assist their "Gimmegrant" friends against those evil fascist/Nazi/racist ad nausea, Froggy Police & Military who will be doing their job come the morrow.

Anarchists from Britain protest refugee camp's demolition in Calais | UK | News | Daily Express

Personally I hope the Froggies beat seven bells out of these traitorous degenerates, sling 'em in a Froggy nick & lose the keys! One can only hope.

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I don't think it is Theresa May per se at fault here. I think it is those over the water who interpret the rules and the fact that they are unwilling to use proper methods to determine the age of thes 'children'....who asked for Razors on landing here(allegedly).
There is general suspicion about those arriving because there is little transparency.....we cannot now see who is landing here, but they aren't carrying dollies and teddies.

As to those who go over to Calais to support these illegal immigrants.... I don't think there is much chance of your dreams being realised.

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Oh I don't know Ma, there's a definitive effluvia whiff in the air here of corrupted morals. So far May has talked the talk, but there's as yet no physical substance to her righteous prattle & how often has that been the premise of deceitful lying politicoes to date?

Pish & wind comes to mind, which doesn't to my mind equate to the much preferred maxim of "Actions speak louder than words" & until that happens .....

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Yes, talk is cheap...actions are what tell us how the land lies...but she has stopped Sir Jeremy Whatsis face(Heywood, his name escaped me for a moment) from attending cabinet meetings and he was the most senior civil servant in DC's government, and he(allegedly) did the underhand stuff......so I think his influence has been somewhat neutered...also Theresa May seems to be brooking no dissent from toadies like Philip Hammond and other politicians who would do much to slow down the progress on leaving the EU. She wants to do it her way and in her own time.....the French want to push her, which in my book, is as good a reason as any NOT to be hurried
She has had 101 days in office...which is not a long time in politics.......I will wait and see.

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Deary me, seems the enrichers still aren't happy with their lot in life, their sense of entitlement is truly disgusting, apparently you can take the ingrates out of the jungle & they're still ingrates ..... just somewhere else!

And the lefties & luvvies want more of this? Absolute idiocy!

Migrants say France is racist and they want to come to Britain | UK | News | Daily Express

As to the comment from A-mad-rat-man,

“I do not want to stay here in France. Nor does any Afghan I know. The cows in the field are cared for better than us.”

Possibly because they're at least productive, useful & inoffensive.

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Looks like we're taking in our own swarm over the next few years.

Canada to open door to more skilled workers, immigrant families in 2017 - Politics - CBC News

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Hey ... I just had a serious thought, even tho' it's only 7am.;) Here I am, cooking bacon for my munchkin, and thinking that there might be folks over there, maybe relatives, who are looking to make a new life for themselves. Canada is looking for skilled trades and anyone in health care. Life is good over here. Just ask DiG:D

And you won't have much problem with language (unless you opt for la belle province). We speak a form of English that is easy to catch onto. You'll recognize the face on our coins. Canadians tend to be easy going, friendly, and accepting. Best advice is: try to fit in; it ain't that hard. Get into watching hockey. Drink Tim Hortons coffee ... double dnouble. The beer is good, and so is the wine and whiskey. Food is great, but a little different. Food also tends to reflect our multi-cultural society ... no doubt you are used to that:D For anyone interested in a little adventurous change, check it out. Serious.

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Aye eric skilled trade being the sensible option, wouldn't mind betting Canada vets immigrants far better than the numptiews here do also,?

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We sure do. But why not? As soon as immigrants land, they have access to all the benefits Canadians have ... apart from the vote. That ain't something we just give away out of the kindness of our hearts.:D You have to bring something valuable with you. A skill that is in demand here: carpenters, electricians, plumbers, pipe fitters, tool and die makers, doctors, nurses etc. Anything in high tech. Fluency in one of our official languages is a big plus. That lets you out;) For an English speaker, some knowledge of French is a bonus. Don't forget that more than 8 million Canadians speak French as their first language. Met lots of expats over here. Yet to meet one who regrets the move.

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If I were of working age it would be a serious consideration....Though I cannot speak French and have a strong aversion to anything French.
I reckon Canada or Australia would be favourite destinations.

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They're not the frogs that you run into; just Canadians who speak French ... like our PM:D

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I appreciate that Eric, but I cannot see beyond the French language and the resentful way that the French have directed against us since they were pulled out of the mire that was WWII.
I know, I know....it is water under the bridge, but I am set in my ways and find changing these attitudes is really hard.
Perhaps it is a good job I am too old to relocate.

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Eric i did apply and get a job in Canada early 70s, but had to give backword. circumstances conspired against me sadly.

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Likewise Cashy. We applied to emigrate to Oz....It would probably be 71/72....but I got cold feet.

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Let's face it, everyone has to be somewhere, 95% of the time I'm happy being in Accy and it's surrounding districts.

What I seem forced to object to is strangers put in my midst, those in power make selfless rulings on humanity grounds...



...but is it them that has to live with, and put up with...

... The swarm?

No, it's the common folk that always have to mix, make allowances, lose their way of life.

The people in charge hide behind exclusive gates they don't allow us, never mind immigrants into their parlour, until they do, why should we be expected to accept their trash?
:confused:

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Here's a bit of little known history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAB9B2ROcWw

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Having spent a fair time in France, i can honestly say,the farther south yeh go,the more obnoxious and ignorant they are if yeh happen to be from the U.K. the North aint half as bad imho. Barrie Yates actually lived oer yon for quite a few years, so possibly has a view different to mine?

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Can't say I've traveled in the south ... but the assholes in Paris, who, by some gross error of someone's judgement, often end up in the tourist industry, are bad enough. I remember six of us drinking our beers at one of the boozers, outside of course. The jerk offs at the next table, and the waiter, who was walking around like he had a broom handle shoved up his ass, must have thought we were American. Not realizing that three of the group were fluently bilingual, and that the other three could more than get by in French, they made some questionable remarks. My good buddy Roland Desjarlais (an FBI ... [deleted]ing Big Indian) ... who, at the time was Chief of the Muskowekwan First Nation (Ojibway) ... demanded, in perfect French, that they apologize right away or he would take out his knife, scalp them, and cut off their ... well, you get the picture. It was a blast ... and we didn't have to pay for the beer.:D

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I like that Eric.
You should never assume that someone cannot speak the language.
When I was a student, one of the midwifery sisters(who looked the vision of your maiden Aunt Maud) ripped a strip off an Asian man who was visiting his wife and made some very detogatory (sexual) comments about one of the nurses who was working in the ward.
His face fell half a yard when this meek and mild woman,spoke to him in the dialect of his part of the world. What he did not know was that this woman had lived and worked in the villages looking after Asian women and their babies.....she could cuss and swear in his language....but she didn't, she just humiliated him in front of his wife and his mother.

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Yes Cashy, we lived in Brittany for a few years. Found the people there and in Normandy to be friendly and helpful, particularly if you attempted to speak French. visited Paris a few times and did not like the people there although we never had any problems, just the attitude, but of course London can be pretty bad for that. Quite a lot of things I liked about France - some ideas that would make UK a better place to live in I feel - work for a certain period before any benefits can be claimed, pay 3E to visit the doctor, pay 1/3 of prescription charges, except for certain illnesses, for over 65s, substantially better state pension, good health care, pay 14E per day in hospital (food etc), but the food was crap, Calvados & Pastis and cheaper booze. Our reason for leaving was that our families thought we were too far away if anything went wrong (healthwise).