obituaries and Grandchildrens names

steeljack · 28-07-2007, 05:30

ok , I'm approaching a certain age where the first page I check in the local paper is the obituary column, same when I check the Accy Observer on-line edition on a Friday , just to see if I recognize any names of friends and contempories , one thing has struck me while reading about who has passed over is the names of the survivours, is that most of the children (30/40/50 yr olds) have regular/traditional names, but lots of the surving grandchildren have names that have either been re-spelled from the traditional spelling or are complete new creative inventions.
So , what do you folks think ? am I turning into a 'Victor Muldrew' or should I just 'get with the times' and accept these new names and spellings.
Should mention that I am guilty that whenever I come across an employment application at work "funny" names do tend to go to the bottom of the pile . I should say I have no objection to any religious or ethnic name, just to the stupid/innovative spelling of traditional names.
Some countries have regulations about what you can register as a childs name, do you think this is a good idea ?

Gayle · 28-07-2007, 06:11

I think that you should be allowed to call a child, more or less anything you want and spell it however you want (obviously, within reason so that it's not an abusive term - not 'Oy' or 'Blockhead' etc.)

But I also think that a child should be able to reregister their name officially at a certain age. So that if they have been called 'Moonbeam' or even just a different spelling of their own name they can change it officially at a specific age.

Mick · 28-07-2007, 06:18

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Originally Posted by Gayle

I think that you should be allowed to call a child, more or less anything you want and spell it however you want (obviously, within reason so that it's not an abusive term - not 'Oy' or 'Blockhead' etc.)

But I also think that a child should be able to reregister their name officially at a certain age. So that if they have been called 'Moonbeam' or even just a different spelling of their own name they can change it officially at a specific age.

anyone can change there name by deed poll

Fast deed poll

Gayle · 28-07-2007, 06:22

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Originally Posted by mick

anyone can change there name by depole

You don't actually need to change it by deedpoll. You can simply ask everyone to start calling you that, then go along to the banks etc and ask them to use it - once its been established then that can be used as your legal name. Changing it by deedpoll only establishes it immediately whereas the other route can take a few years whilst people get used to it. Most people use deedpoll when they are divorcing and want to go back to their maiden name or things like that.

But what I'm suggesting is that at the age of 18 (or some other age around then) you have an 'official' notification saying 'what would you like to be called from now on' and then a naming ceremony or the such like.

Mick · 28-07-2007, 06:27

But as you said "reregister their name officially at a certain age" then it has to be done by deed poll the other way "just telling people you want to be called a new name is not "official" and would not be registered.

"Most people use deedpoll when they are divorcing and want to go back to their maiden name or things like that."
I know about 8 people who have changed there name and not been married they just changed it because they did not like there old one.

steeljack · 28-07-2007, 06:48

not wanting to upset anyone , but certain names have been used in England for more than a 1000 yrs , eg Emma , Maud, Mary etc. sometimes they are in fashion sometimes not , but they are English names , to name someone Kali ( the sugary flavored coloured stuff you used to dip your finger into and then lick off) is in my opinion wrong , unless you are an Hindu.
All I was trying to say in my original post was that giving children 'original' names sometimes works to the childs disadvantage wether it be in school or future job prospects .
I'm more likely to hire someone as a secretary who's application form says Jane than someone called Jain , who's name reminds me of a pole dancer

Mick · 28-07-2007, 06:52

Yes Steeljack i do agree there are some daft names about now and i pity the children at school that has one.

lettie · 28-07-2007, 07:20

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Originally Posted by mick

But as you said "reregister their name officially at a certain age" then it has to be done by deed poll the other way "just telling people you want to be called a new name is not "official" and would not be registered.

"Most people use deedpoll when they are divorcing and want to go back to their maiden name or things like that."
I know about 8 people who have changed there name and not been married they just changed it because they did not like there old one.

I didn't use deed poll when I divorced. I simply started to use my maiden name and changed my passport and driving license to my maiden name with no hassle what-so-ever.

Deed poll is not necessary, you can legally call yourself whatever you want so long as it is not for fraudulent purposes.

garinda · 28-07-2007, 08:29

Steeljack, you live in a country were children are called Duke and Earl.

garinda · 28-07-2007, 08:32

...then there's Prince and Queen Latifah.

Are there any Counts?

Doug · 28-07-2007, 09:28

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Originally Posted by garinda

...then there's Prince and Queen Latifah.

Are there any Counts?

No, but there's one on here...........

I follow what you mean Steeljack.

garinda · 28-07-2007, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Doug

No, but there's one on here...........

I'll line 'em up, you put them in the back of the net.

lancscat · 28-07-2007, 13:09

i think you shud be able to name your children wot u like my little boy has a unusual name,KEELAN,when people ask wots his name is and i tell them thay like it,and it isnt common lol

Gayle · 28-07-2007, 15:38

Count Basie.

LancYorkYankee · 28-07-2007, 16:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

Steeljack, you live in a country were children are called Duke and Earl.

Hey now, my dad's name is Earl, as is his dad. Probably cause Joseph William Atkin was yearning for the old country!

I agree with you here Steeljack. I REALLY struggle with the innocuous name concoctions that are coming up. It's really odd as I notice it mostly amoung the weekly "Police Reports" and also in the new birth sections of the paper. Most of these names come where only the birth mother is listed.

I'm still trying to figure that one out but I believe alot of it around here is a cultural (mostly Black) thing.

Brian