party political politics

cmonstanley · 28-06-2010, 18:29

does anybody else think the party politics of both main political parties has contributed to the downfall of british football ie selling offsports fields for housing etc.,building massive housing estates without any sports fields,slashing funding for sports activities in schools etc, have they sown what we have reaped.

Tealeaf · 28-06-2010, 19:01

It's not only the (Thatcherite) flogging of the playing fields...it's the (Socialist) policy of non-competitive sports, EU Health & Safety legislation, parents not letting kids out to play, diets of junk food, kids spending their time on PC's rather than going out, the Premier foofball league, unjustified tabloid hype....I could go on, but I'm sure others can put their own angle on this.

cmonstanley · 28-06-2010, 19:06

thats why i quote both main political parties the start was selling off school and social sports fields to make a quick buck.

DaveinGermany · 28-06-2010, 19:06

Some fault may be laid at their doors, but I think the main problem lies in the non competitive nature of sports(all winners no losers), the general attitude of a generation or two to sport (where do I plug it in ?). The touchy feely & fear of compensation/responsibility if someone gets hurt & the lack of dedicated sports teachers.

As youngsters we had organised Sat&Sun league football from under 11's upto under 16's,(Run by parents & Uncles) Organised & competitive sport in School (Footy/Cricket & the Girls had netball & rounders, swimming etc) against other Schools in the region. In fact one of our Sports teachers played for Altrincham FC & blagged tickets for a pile of us in their FA Cup run which they lost out to Spurs in the 78-79 season I believe.

DAVISON, John: Club captain and also skipper of the England Semi-Pro team for whom he has a record 21 caps. He holds Aitrincham’s individual appearance record having passed 650 in February, and was a member of the previous two Wembley sides. He came to the club in 1972 from Burnley and had a short spell with Bangor City four years later. Aged 33, with a cultured left foot, he is a schoolteacher.

Wynonie Harris · 28-06-2010, 19:48

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

does anybody else think the party politics of both main political parties has contributed to the downfall of british football ie selling offsports fields for housing etc.,building massive housing estates without any sports fields,slashing funding for sports activities in schools etc, have they sown what we have reaped.

How much government funding do you think they get for sports activities in Brazil? A hell of a lot less than they do here, I'll be bound. The difference is, they have pride in their country and consider it an honour and a privilege to wear the shirt...and it shows in the effort they put in when playing in internationals.

Contrast that to the attitude of our bunch...spoilt brats who care nothing for their country, but everything for money. Excuses like these just don't cut it...they just don't want it enough - as simple as.

cashman · 28-06-2010, 20:07

Dont agree, its as simple as the everyones a winner mentality, utter crap n one thing i give credit to the despicable tories fer saying they will remove it from school sports.

cmonstanley · 28-06-2010, 20:33

ahh but its all implemented by people in charge who impose there own political views allowed by politicians so they have been fundemental in the fall of grace of our so called sports stars.

cashman · 28-06-2010, 21:14

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

ahh but its all implemented by people in charge who impose there own political views allowed by politicians so they have been fundemental in the fall of grace of our so called sports stars.

yeh n labour was in charge at that time i think.

Benipete · 28-06-2010, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

How much government funding do you think they get for sports activities in Brazil? A hell of a lot less than they do here, I'll be bound. The difference is, they have pride in their country and consider it an honour and a privilege to wear the shirt...and it shows in the effort they put in when playing in internationals.

Contrast that to the attitude of our bunch...spoilt brats who care nothing for their country, but everything for money. Excuses like these just don't cut it...they just don't want it enough - as simple as.

Can't agree with you more.I came from humble beginnings but I never played a game or ran a race to come second and indeed, not to win was never an option.

Mancie · 28-06-2010, 22:09

It's all very well for the Government to say they want to bring back the competitive edge for kids in sport.. but I heard the same sort of thing from the early days of the last Government....I'd like to know where this new competitive attitude for sports will be carried out, in the inner cities hardly any schools have a football pitch let alone facilities for athletics..will this lot put money were there gobs are?.. I doubt it!

cashman · 28-06-2010, 22:12

know what yer sayin mancie dont disagree, but a starts gotta be made. kids thinkin no-ones a loser does nowt fer sport. n thats sod all to do wi polotics just common sense.

Mancie · 28-06-2010, 22:40

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Originally Posted by cashman

know what yer sayin mancie dont disagree, but a starts gotta be made. kids thinkin no-ones a loser does nowt fer sport. n thats sod all to do wi polotics just common sense.

Yes, and to be honest I don't know of, and never heard of any directive from any Goverment saying winning in sports is bad..maybe there has been an attitude from some teachers that winning is not everything.. but I don't think that attitude is common... like I say it's all very well to announce we want to bring back the competition in games and sports..but will they provide the resources?

cashman · 28-06-2010, 22:54

cant honestly remember, but was all over the media about it yrs ago, n i thought it was stupid then, seem to think it was when i was goin through a bad time, which would be around 10 yrs ago.

shillelagh · 28-06-2010, 23:14

think it started before that ... and i aint doing politics here .. but i can remember the sports day at a school .. and this was when one of my nieces went there ... shes now 25 ... and there was no losers then .. that was at least 15 years ago .. tis the same with another one .. though shes only just turned 16 ...

even when i was at school the pe teachers were just glad i managed to finish any sports .. i was crap at em .. so its not just started recent .. its been going on for a lot longer than people think.

Is it going to work .. a lot of kids do sports out of school ... play football on a saturday or sunday, learn karate or judo etc and enter competitions, play cricket in summer, do they not learn competitiveness from them as well ..

think it comes from a pile of different sources, parents, teachers, friends, relatives etc .. even watching tv .. watching the olympics on telly .. getting a gold medal ..

Something else ... this weekend hassy sports centre is running a football tournament .. they have done for the last 3 years. Its over subscribed. Theres teams from the fylde coast, formby, cumbria besides local teams.... Now the Under 8s they get all get a medal ... but the under 9s, 10s, 11s, 12s, 13s, 14s and 15s are all competing for a trophy .. and its being held over 2 days .. it has to be because of the amount of teams that have entered.

jaysay · 29-06-2010, 09:30

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

that's why i quote both main political parties the start was selling off school and social sports fields to make a quick buck.

It started of with there should be no losers in sport, which was quickly followed with if we don't have competitive sports there's no need for sports fields