Pub landlord jailed for allowing smoking. - Page 3

MargaretR · 27-02-2010, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Neil

Why bother paying the mortgage if money is worth nothing?

Might as well ditch the house while it is still worth something.

Printed money will have no value but title deeds still will.
Being the owner of the roof over your head will prevent repossession by the mortgagee.

If you sell your house you will have a lovely bank balance worth nothing

Neil · 27-02-2010, 10:33

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Seems to me it's a 'strange' legal system that puts a pub landlord from Bolton in jail for six months for allowing the use of a legal tobacco product by consenting adults in his pub

The law is the law though.
Even if at times it does appear to be similar to a donkey it should be up held.

DaveinGermany · 27-02-2010, 10:35

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Probably belonged to Nick Winterton

Quite possible Jay but the list of suspects is extremely long ! I know why don't they get those would be investigators, you know the ones from the other thread to pore over the old dossiers, blow me multi tasking & saving the Government a fortune already, perchance Accy web should run the Country we've enough sensible people on here.

Failing that, some of the Political personages who frequent these sides should point their masters in the general direction of these pages so they may glean the perceptions & opinions of the everyday individual.

Benipete · 27-02-2010, 10:38

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Ah, the training manual for would be Politicians ! where ever did you find that ? lying round in a train somewhere ? was it in laptop/CD or paper format ? But definitely not in economy class I'll bet.

No I wrote the latest edition taking into account all available information from the politicians little green book of scams.

Should we all have a book to tell us right from wrong?

MargaretR · 27-02-2010, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Neil

The law is the law though.
Even if at times it does appear to be similar to a donkey it should be up held.

people thinking like this have got us where we are today

....a broken bankrupt corrupted society

Laws, as in Common Law, were beneficial
Government statutes benefit only the corrupt state controllers.

jaysay · 27-02-2010, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Benipete

No I wrote the latest edition taking into account all available information from the politicians little green book of scams.

Should we all have a book to tell us right from wrong?

Is that published by Harper Hey Beni

DaveinGermany · 27-02-2010, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Neil

The law is the law though.
Even if at times it does appear to be similar to a donkey it should be up held.

Sadly Neil it's opinions like that, that have brought Britain to the crippling state she's in. "The law is the law" doesn't make that law correct as most of these Laws are imposed by a non elected body in Europe who then pass it to member states to apply as they deem sensible.

If that was the case, why then are the same rules ( for all member states) that Govern UK life not so vigorously applied in other European Countries ? As I've stated elsewhere the application of Laws in UK are applied more towards control of the populace than protection & security of its citizens.

Neil · 27-02-2010, 10:54

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Sadly Neil it's opinions like that, that have brought Britain to the crippling state she's in. "The law is the law" doesn't make that law correct as most of these Laws are imposed by a non elected body in Europe who then pass it to member states to apply as they deem sensible.

So who should decide which laws we ignore then?

jaysay · 27-02-2010, 10:57

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Sadly Neil it's opinions like that, that have brought Britain to the crippling state she's in. "The law is the law" doesn't make that law correct as most of these Laws are imposed by a non elected body in Europe who then pass it to member states to apply as they deem sensible.

If that was the case, why then are the same rules ( for all member states) that Govern UK life not so vigorously applied in other European Countries ? As I've stated elsewhere the application of Laws in UK are applied more towards control of the populace than protection & security of its citizens.

Non elected body in Europe and sensible don't site too well in the same statement Dave

MargaretR · 27-02-2010, 11:00

Some people are finding non violent ways to 'opt out'
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The other alternatives are -
1 put up with it
2 anarchy

cashman · 27-02-2010, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Neil

So who should decide which laws we ignore then?

well it seems in some european countries the goverment decides which is best fer its people, hence smoking in bars in spain,

DaveinGermany · 27-02-2010, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Neil

So who should decide which laws we ignore then?

They should be applied on a common sense basis, the Politicians should work together with each other (hard I know) as it is supposed to be for the benefit of the greater Public. Also taking into account views of Police, Lawyers & members of the Public, that is what democracy is supposedly about.

This would then mean that if there is any likelihood of issues arising from the implementation of these "Laws" they would be defined from the very start & the required remedial action could be taken to correct the problem. Also added to this when a new Government comes into the picture there can be no bleating as to "It was before our time & there's nothing we can do about it. " because they would've been implicit in its implication.

Neil · 27-02-2010, 11:18

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Originally Posted by cashman

well it seems in some european countries the goverment decides which is best fer its people, hence smoking in bars in spain,

This Government decided what was best for us - a lot of people don't agree though.

I wonder if they will remember that at election time.

How many drinking smokers will vote Labour therefore agreeing with the decision to ban smoking in pubs?

DaveinGermany · 27-02-2010, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Neil

This Government decided what was best for us - a lot of people don't agree though.

That is just the point though "This Government" discussion, referendum, consultation, all valid words & that is all they are to the present ruling classes they keep using them, but will not in any way consider using them in case they upset the EU. What about the British People ? obviously their opinions don't count or matter it appears.

accyman · 27-02-2010, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Neil

So who should decide which laws we ignore then?

me

ok US

its about time government was taken down a peg or two and made to remember that they are there to serve us and not elected to be another countries whipping boy or slave.What government has forgotten is that it is elected to look out for OUR interests not that of another nation

most people couldnt give a hoot about iraq and saw no need for us to go to war but Tony blair wanted it to happen so MP's totaly ignored whattehir constituants wanted and voted in favour of teh war becaus ethey were affraid of upseting their boss

what they forgot was that WE are their boss's boss and he is supposed to answer to us