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Benipete · 19-12-2009, 10:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I was generalising Beni,

just saying that now I feel like I was in my younger days. only this week I went for a look outside and saw a little lad sat on the kerb crying his eyes out, I asked what was wrong, he just said he couldn't do what the big lads do, I agreed and sat down and cried with him

Put a bench there and I'll come and join you.

On a good day that is

Less · 19-12-2009, 10:37

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

TV programmes set the standards.
Dissolute, materialistic celebrities are the role models.
A generation has been brainwashed.
A population gets the type of society it deserves
- we earned this by neglect

I haven't seen a T.V. Programme or a materialistic celebrity, suggesting or promoting the rape of an eight year old by two ten year olds, that is a ridiculous statement.

If a generation is to blame, which one? As part of the older generation can I suggest it could be us? We brought up the generation that followed, some claim that generation don't make fit parents and therefore this is one of the results, perhaps what is happening is because we didn't do it right?
Parts of Society are to blame not just the people of any age that commit such awful crimes, but the members of the establishment that took away the powers of the courts to punish such crimes.

I agree, we have earned this by neglect, but the 8 year old and to some extent the 10 year olds are victims of that neglect and it should make us all bow our heads in shame that such a thing has happened, (again?).

jaysay · 19-12-2009, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Put a bench there and I'll come and join you.

On a good day that is

Beat you to it Beni, its already there mate

Barrie Yates · 19-12-2009, 14:34

Standards of behaviour have degenerated from generation to succeeding generation. The media? Generations accepted that and the subsequent lowering of standards.
Law & Order? The same story and we voted for the idiots who made the laws and saw to the enforcement of them.
I was no teen angel, but I had respect for my elders and property.
IMHO, parents are responsible for the behaviour of their children, set them the example that you expect of them, and lets get rid of these stupid laws, and the lawmakers who introduced them, that prevent parents from chastising their own children.

cashman · 19-12-2009, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Standards of behaviour have degenerated from generation to succeeding generation. The media? Generations accepted that and the subsequent lowering of standards.
Law & Order? The same story and we voted for the idiots who made the laws and saw to the enforcement of them.
I was no teen angel, but I had respect for my elders and property.
IMHO, parents are responsible for the behaviour of their children, set them the example that you expect of them, and lets get rid of these stupid laws, and the lawmakers who introduced them, that prevent parents from chastising their own children.

Nail bang on the head.

Stumped · 20-12-2009, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Standards of behaviour have degenerated from generation to succeeding generation. The media? Generations accepted that and the subsequent lowering of standards.
Law & Order? The same story and we voted for the idiots who made the laws and saw to the enforcement of them.
I was no teen angel, but I had respect for my elders and property.
IMHO, parents are responsible for the behaviour of their children, set them the example that you expect of them, and lets get rid of these stupid laws, and the lawmakers who introduced them, that prevent parents from chastising their own children.

A major part of the problems today arise from the fact that half the kids being born are unlikely to know who their parents are! Hence the inbred morons currently trawling our streets with their pit-bull terriers in tow!

Bring back George Pratt and the birch!

jaysay · 21-12-2009, 09:16

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Originally Posted by Stumped

A major part of the problems today arise from the fact that half the kids being born are unlikely to know who their parents are! Hence the inbred morons currently trawling our streets with their pit-bull terriers in tow!

Bring back George Pratt and the birch!

Do you not realise Barry these inbred morons have rights

more flaming rights than you and me

Stumped · 21-12-2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Do you not realise Barry these inbred morons have rights

more flaming rights than you and me

Imagine what it's like for the boys and girls in blue (or today's dayglow yellow) when they drag these scum off the streets only to see them rewarded with 'community service' by the politically correct magistrates. If it weren't so serious it would be laughable.

cashman · 21-12-2009, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Stumped

Imagine what it's like for the boys and girls in blue (or today's dayglow yellow) when they drag these scum off the streets only to see them rewarded with 'community service' by the politically correct magistrates. If it weren't so serious it would be laughable.

whilst agree about pc magistrates, they have a maximun n minimum tariff, the law allows to sentence, twas not them decided that.

jaysay · 21-12-2009, 15:16

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Originally Posted by cashman

whilst agree about pc magistrates, they have a maximun n minimum tariff, the law allows to sentence, twas not them decided that.

Ya cashy but there's nothing to stop them referring any case to a higher court if they don't feel able to deal out the right sentence

cashman · 21-12-2009, 16:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya cashy but there's nothing to stop them referring any case to a higher court if they don't feel able to deal out the right sentence

Again it depends on the crime mate, some they can't commit to sessions etc.

Stumped · 21-12-2009, 17:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya cashy but there's nothing to stop them referring any case to a higher court if they don't feel able to deal out the right sentence

Maybe if it was decreed no longer ecomical to keep prisoners in the lap of luxury, the powers that be may consider reverting to proper punishments, vis: making the punishment fit the crime.

douglas ackroyd · 21-12-2009, 20:15

make the punishment fit the crime, bring back the birch and cat-o-nine tails.
none of these kids of today know the meaning of respect, sorry about 10% do.
but who is to blame, us!!!!!!! why, because we voted in the morons who made the laws and stopped us from punishing our kids with a smack. it never did me any harm, but taught me to understand right from wrong and respect for my elder's...

Mancie · 21-12-2009, 21:11

I don't see how the odd smack would have prevented this crime.. and I don't see bringing back the "birch" as a punishment that would deter anyone from sexual crimes..you are talking crap.

jaysay · 22-12-2009, 08:28

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I don't see how the odd smack would have prevented this crime.. and I don't see bringing back the "birch" as a punishment that would deter anyone from sexual crimes..you are talking crap.

I disagree Mancie most of these feral youths are cowards and if they thought for one minute they were going to get a good hiding, they'd think twice about their actions. I've often said that birching one of these out of control youths would hurt one, but put the fear of god into thousands more