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garinda 29-09-2009 17:35

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Nevermind the flu jab, if all this lunatic guff continues for much longer, I'll start stockpiling cyanide capsules.

BERNADETTE 29-09-2009 17:40

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It is quite laughable that the powers that be can make anything compulsory for all UK residents when they don't even know how many people are actually resident here. The border agencies are quite often arresting people who have been here several years on a six month visa, so there is no way it could be made compulsory and be totally effective.

Gayle 29-09-2009 18:46

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BBC NEWS | Health | Cancer jab alert after girl dies

A girl has died after having the cancer drug.

It's supposedly not compulsory but it is being 'sold' to people as something that all 14 year old girls should have.

I was extremely wary about it before this but I am even more so now.

Margaret Pilkington 29-09-2009 18:48

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and some schools are brow-beating girls whose parents have declined the vaccination.......frightening them, telling 12 year olds scary things.

***Mr D*** 29-09-2009 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 749112)
BBC NEWS | Health | Cancer jab alert after girl dies

A girl has died after having the cancer drug.

It's supposedly not compulsory but it is being 'sold' to people as something that all 14 year old girls should have.

I was extremely wary about it before this but I am even more so now.

This has also been on my mind, luckly I have a few more years until my littleone reaches that age bracket. I didnt want to post anything incase I was labeled a fear mongerer again.

It must be a concern though for parents who's daughter is to be vaccinated after hearing the news.

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 749115)
and some schools are brow-beating girls whose parents have declined the vaccination.......frightening them, telling 12 year olds scary things.

Not good.:mad:

lindsay ormerod 02-10-2009 23:01

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It has now come to light that the 14 year old who died had an underlying medical condition, the vaccine did not kill her. I gave my consent for my daughter to have it earlier this year and would do so again, I have had a close call with cervical cancer myself and anything I can do to protect her I will do.

Less 02-10-2009 23:12

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 750089)
It has now come to light that the 14 year old who died had an underlying medical condition, the vaccine did not kill her. I gave my consent for my daughter to have it earlier this year and would do so again, I have had a close call with cervical cancer myself and anything I can do to protect her I will do.

Well done, a bit of sense in a totally panicky thread.

:)

Restless 02-10-2009 23:34

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yes but apparently what they seem to be sayin is the vaccinations are targeted to take out certain people.... unless a kid seems to be a political genius at 14 and dangerous to their cause why would they target them...........Man what crap am i talking... spent too much time around my friend that is ALMOST as bad as life

jaysay 03-10-2009 10:04

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 750095)
yes but apparently what they seem to be sayin is the vaccinations are targeted to take out certain people.... unless a kid seems to be a political genius at 14 and dangerous to their cause why would they target them...........Man what crap am i talking... spent too much time around my friend that is ALMOST as bad as life

Oh come on Restless there's nobody as big a fruit cake as life:rolleyes:

Restless 03-10-2009 13:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 750156)
Oh come on Restless there's nobody as big a fruit cake as life:rolleyes:

have a look at his website and click some of the links... the world is full of them :D

katex 03-10-2009 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 749115)
and some schools are brow-beating girls whose parents have declined the vaccination.......frightening them, telling 12 year olds scary things.

Well, cervical cancer is very scary Margaret as you will be aware !

Life 04-10-2009 11:03

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Hi All.

Well Margaret one can see the desperation of those who have forced their daughters to take the HPV vaccine, hanging on to any old garbage handed out by big pharma to ensure they remain asleep and trust anything that comes from the mouth of a supposed corporate experts...

The young girl that died did not have any condition that would kill her within two hours of the vaccination, it was the vaccination. And worse another girl collapsed and was rushed into hospital from the same CofE school.

If you have given the vaccine to your daughter then it would be far better as an adult if you to understand what it is you have done to your child, I will give you a start...

forget the idea of having grandchildren, you have opened your daughters to

sterilization, not all who received the vaccine just those deemed a possible case for not being controlled via all the NLP and TV.

I see desperation in the response of many, but take responsibility for what you have done and ensure your children do not get any booster jabs. To continue to hold on to the fact you are innocent of destroying your children is to say the least, pathetic.

You can fool yourself but never the spirit, grow up, admit you are at the mercy of the pharmaceutical corporations, all divisions of the Nazi IG Farben war machine of Hitler, and stand up against the mandatory vaccination agenda of the same.

In case you have missed the real information, the UK has indeed said the vaccinations will not be compulsory, but Ireland has just ok'd the Lisbon Treaty, leaving only Poland and the Czech republic to do the same....
what the media has failed to to tell you is the fact the EU has said the vaccinations will be mandatory, so as soon as the treaty is fully ratified you can forget the idea the UK will not come under the same.

To vent your spleen at me is fine from my perspective, I care not how you see me, but for god sake it is your children you are killing and sterilizing, if you hold to the fact there is a higher force in this world, then you need to understand just because you would rather put your head in the sand in relation to what you have already done, will still be classed as murder and child abuse when you face yourself at death... do it now save the children.

Take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming everyone else, you gave permission, you are to blame, your children will realize this as the years move on, ignorance is bliss, but children become adults, children can learn all by themselves, and they will I guarantee it.

Life 04-10-2009 11:21

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Hi All.

Take time out from ranting at me and look back 20 years......children did not get cancer.

20 years ago vaccinating our children became the bully tactic of all dumb medical staff as soon as your child was delivered. I said no to all vaccinations for all four of my children, I looked the idiot nurses and doctors in the eye and said NO, do not touch my child with any chemical concoction or I will sue the living daylights out of you.

You could see the vacant expression on their little faces and wanting to put me up as a child abuser or some similar garbage. My children are never ill save for the normal stuff, they are highly intelligent, and their hearts are wide open...are yours?

Yes cervical cancer is frightening but that is exactly my point, the medical profession attack you with fear, if you are a fearful person you will buckle, accept you are weak and become strong. The rise in cancer goes hand in hand with parents buckling to the will of the medical mafia and injecting heinous chemicals into the children. if you want proof that the medical staff know more than they tell you, yet are happy to promote the vaccinations look at the fact that one third of the nurses have refused the vaccination for themselves, and 41% of the doctors the same.


Money has been arranged and so the doctors are now happy to stick you and your children while they are exempt....

The females are so weak, in fact even the schools are using this against them, just the other week as the Peel Park primary got very excited at the fact I have not handed in the forms they sent out relating to massive medical permissions, for the school and whatever medical operatives my children may come into contact with while at school, Mrs Jones the teacher of my youngest son suggested to my ex wife that she hand the information into school secretly...against the wishes of I the father.

The schools know the women will cave in under pressure, that to my mind is pathetic, and of course Mrs Jones is in some serious trouble for her deceptive suggestion.

Cancer is a consequence of the vaccinations you had when you were children, and all those you have had since, take responsibility for your own being and cease in this child like behavior handing over total sovereignty of your body and mind to the elite bankers.

GROW UP AND REMEMBER YOU ARE FREE TO BE YOU

Margaret Pilkington 04-10-2009 11:22

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I agree Kate, but this vaccination will not remove the need for cervical smears as it does not protect against 30% of HPV viruses.....so the girls now being vaccinated will still have to go for regular smears.......as for smears, many women fail to attend for them....and when some abnormality is found, they also fail to attend for investigation(colposcopy) and treatment.......this is still going to be the case.
And if you are set on a vaccination program then why vaccinate only girls? Is it because only girls will get the Cervical cancer? Boys carry and pass on the virus, so why not vaccinate them too.

Personally, I think that the companies who produce the vaccine have done quite a bit of scaremongering.......In 2005, some 900 women died from Cancer of the cervix......and while any death from cancer is lamentable, this is not a huge number when you take the population size into account. How many of these women had not been for their smears is not recorded.
As for the Vaccincation of all girls between the ages of 12 and 18.....this is something that is questionable.......the efficacy of the vaccine lasts for around 4 and a half years.......will only protect agains 70% of the viruses........and a leading Doctor who deals with women suffering from Cervical cancer, has said that the vaccine has not been tested for long enough to ensure it is safe and without long term effects.

I suppose I will be pilloried for my views...especially seeing as I worked in the field of Women's Health for a quarter of a century, but I prefer to research and exercise caution before accepting something that so called experts tell me.......I want to know whether these experts have vested interests in the promotion of mass vaccination.....a very lucrative business.

My way of dealing with this kind of disease would(and has been) to educate women in taking responsibility for their own health, to postpone sexual activity(early sexual activity may be a factor in the number of women having positive smears, and the number of sexual partners may also have a part to play).......to use safer sexual practices, to go for their smears on a regular basis(however unpleasant this procedure is perceived to be) and to lobby their MP for the re-introduction of smears at a younger age.
Every woman who is sexually active is at risk....and so once sexual activity is begun women should be entitled to a smear test.

I will duck now and avoid the flak.

Margaret Pilkington 04-10-2009 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 750305)
Well, cervical cancer is very scary Margaret as you will be aware !

The teacher in question told the 12 year old that the vaccination was going to protect her in case she got raped on her way home from school!
That cannot be right.
To tell a 12 year old this, especially as we are heading into the season of dark nights.

If a parent has decided that their child is not to have the vaccine, why should the teacher get away with scare tactics?

Life 04-10-2009 17:11

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Hi All.

So we have teachers acting not like teachers. They are lying and terrifying people into subservience. The question here is why?

Common Purpose is a pseudo-charity which has massive power within our system. The police, council's, Military, business, parliament, schools, hospitals etc.

Charities are not allowed to act political, common purpose is not only acting political but installing their own people into positions within our democratic system, in other words they train leaders and place them in power positions in our civil service.. It is training people who attend their courses under neural linguistic programming, which hypnotises people and shifts there perception. Psychologists use the same to help bring people out of depressive mindsets, so as a tool it is not all bad.

Understanding common purpose as I and others do, the same NLP programming is being used in a very negative way indeed, turning decent people into deceiving arrogant military type minds who are acting in a very subversive role acting not for the position within the civil service to which they take their pay, but acting for common purpose under the Chatham house rule.

Chatham House rule prevents any attendee of the meetings from disclosing who the other people attending the meeting are, yet they can use the information they gained at the meeting. Also each person who successfully graduates from the course answers to common purpose, first.....before they answer to the civil position they hold, very MI5, very Tavistock Institute...very secret society doctrine of which I know much

The teachers who are acting in the way Margaret and I presented, are such common purpose trained people, they are not what we expect teachers to be, we must root them out.

Not a single school head, councillor, MP, Social worker and police chief act....without first consulting such companies as Capita Symonds, Sector Weedon Grant, these companies control all the housing associations and such operations as Sure Start. Basically any busy body operation pushing its way into our system connect with companies such as capita Group Plc, both of the above are subsidiaries of Capita Group.

This is what I speak of when I mention the corporate takeover of a nation, which according to Mussolini,the Italian fascist when asked to define fascism, said :

"when the nations political and civil service takes command from the corporate world, fascism is in place".

This is what we suffer presently, and such teachers as we have presented operate for this corporate cartel, this is what is going on in our country as I write.

Here is the London core of this gang of Nazi minds, which is destroying this nation and beyond :

In Profile : The John Adam Street Gang :

In Profile : The John Adam Street Gang » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

This is one of the main corporate centres in the UK with arms as long as Mr Tickle, dictating policy, dictating to parents via teachers who work for these corporations in a secret way. These and many others, are the corporate madmen and women who want to force vaccinate everyone on the planet......

There is only one real question here....why do these corporate fascists want to vaccinate you and me?

I have studied for many years what exactly happened in Germany, these people are the same mind they have the same agenda, why do you trust these psychopaths to the point you will take their chemical concoction which by-passes the mucus immune system? given the distaste we as Englishmen and women learned to despise in the hell of the last two wars.

When you have given this much and deep thought, you might just snap out of the hex.

lancsdave 04-10-2009 17:31

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Originally Posted by Life (Post 750371)
The females are so weak,

Thats a good non-sexist generalisation :rolleyes:

katex 04-10-2009 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 750371)
Hi All.

Take time out from ranting at me and look back 20 years......children did not get cancer.

Of course they did .. studies to improve cures have been going on since the early 1900's.

I said no to all vaccinations for all four of my children, I looked the idiot nurses and doctors in the eye and said NO, do not touch my child with any chemical concoction or I will sue the living daylights out of you.

You could see the vacant expression on their little faces and wanting to put me up as a child abuser or some similar garbage.

I suspect your feelings were not put with any sort of calm attitude Life.



My children are never ill save for the normal stuff, they are highly intelligent, and their hearts are wide open...are yours?

And long may they continue to be safe from any ill health. Possibly because many of our children are being immunised against the diseases that are either maimed or would have killed them, but, eh ... leave it to eveyone else then ! Look around any grave yards in our country and the young people that died of smallpox, polio, diptheria, scarlet fever,... and yes, even measles. That is not happening now ... mmm, why I wonder.

if you want proof that the medical staff know more than they tell you, yet are happy to promote the vaccinations look at the fact that one third of the nurses have refused the vaccination for themselves, and 41% of the doctors the same.

My daughter, as a practice nurse, has been responsible for injecting 100's of young people over the last few months with all these 'terrible chemicals' without any adverse side effects to them. She has administered it herself to her own daughter, and that is good enough for me. Naturally, her studies, seminars and access to information on this vaccine has been of the highest professional nature and I know she will have taken all the knowledge gathered with great seriousness before embarking on this programme.


Cancer is a consequence of the vaccinations you had when you were children, and all those you have had since, take responsibility for your own being and cease in this child like behavior handing over total sovereignty of your body and mind to the elite bankers.

Think you need a little more substantial proof on this statement Life. True that some cancer rates are growing, but due to other factors in the environment and social acceptence .. e.g. more acceptance that our children live in different times now and will be embarking on sexual activities earlier that 50 years ago.

GROW UP AND REMEMBER YOU ARE FREE TO BE YOU

Of course you are, and there are no plans to make any vaccinations mandatory ...everyone still has that choice to decide.

Strange a larger proportion of us are now expected to live to at least 100... mmm .. I wonder why ?

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 750372)
I agree Kate, but this vaccination will not remove the need for cervical smears as it does not protect against 30% of HPV viruses.....so the girls now being vaccinated will still have to go for regular smears.......as for smears, many women fail to attend for them....and when some abnormality is found, they also fail to attend for investigation(colposcopy) and treatment.......this is still going to be the case.
And if you are set on a vaccination program then why vaccinate only girls? Is it because only girls will get the Cervical cancer? Boys carry and pass on the virus, so why not vaccinate them too.

Well, I can't disagree that we women have to take all the treatment Margaret ... doesn't seem fair does it ! :D

Agree about the 30% .. but hey ... 70% 'aint that bad is it ? Trouble is, hope it doesn't make the girls complacent about having smear tests just because they think they are safe if they have received the vaccine. This needs eduction.

Personally, I think that the companies who produce the vaccine have done quite a bit of scaremongering.......In 2005, some 900 women died from Cancer of the cervix......and while any death from cancer is lamentable, this is not a huge number when you take the population size into account.
Wonder if you would be saying this if it were your daughter that contracted cancer of the cervix ... or that lovely grandchild of yours later in life.



I suppose I will be pilloried for my views...especially seeing as I worked in the field of Women's Health for a quarter of a century, but I prefer to research and exercise caution before accepting something that so called experts tell me.......

Unfortunately, in all walks of life .. we have to rely on experts in their field to pass on advice and knowledge.

My way of dealing with this kind of disease would(and has been) to educate women in taking responsibility for their own health, to postpone sexual activity(early sexual activity may be a factor in the number of women having positive smears, and the number of sexual partners may also have a part to play).......to use safer sexual practices, to go for their smears on a regular basis(however unpleasant this procedure is perceived to be) and to lobby their MP for the re-introduction of smears at a younger age.
Every woman who is sexually active is at risk....and so once sexual activity is begun women should be entitled to a smear test.

Ideally, would be great if we could now educate our children to refrain from what is a now sociable pastime ... unfortunately ... early sexual activity is here to stay it would appear, and don't think any turning back.

Yes, smear tests should be offered earlier ... I agree .. the Jane Goody case did help a little here.

My conclusion, however, that prevention rather than cure is a much smarter way to go about it.
.

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 750375)
The teacher in question told the 12 year old that the vaccination was going to protect her in case she got raped on her way home from school!
That cannot be right.
To tell a 12 year old this, especially as we are heading into the season of dark nights.

If a parent has decided that their child is not to have the vaccine, why should the teacher get away with scare tactics?

Well, the mind boggles at that Margaret ... silly woman. We don't really know though if this was taken out of context and just an addition to her diatribe. Teachers are not in a position to pontificate at the rights and wrongs of this vaccine, and should keep any opinions to themselves.

Ah well, that's my bit ... but respect everyone's right to make their own choices.

Margaret Pilkington 04-10-2009 19:05

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No, it wasn't taken out of context........I know the mother of this girl.......she doesn't live locally, but the 12 year old is a very young 12 year old, and arrived home after school very upset....initially would not divulge what had gone on, but her older brother, who attends the same school, heard everything that the Deputy head teacher said to the 12 year old, and he told his mother.

As for your responses to my post........ I fear that the girls will be decieved into thinking that they will be safe........will maybe not realise that after 5years they are no longer covered.(not sure if they are going to be offering booster shots).

My stance regarding Cervarix and Gardasil would be exactly the same if my daughter was of the age to receive it.......as for my daughters little girl (I don't admit to the GP role) while I would not interfere if her mother thought it was wise to have the vaccination, I personally, would not be suggesting that she have this vaccination.

I feel that there are other ways that this disease can be managed and contained.....the focus should be on education and encouraging girls to respect themselves more and not see sexual activity as a 'Sociable pastime'.......if girls are adult enough to indulge in this adult pursuit, then they must be adult enough to take responsibility for their actions.

We should be instilling morals into our children, but hey, that's old fashioned isn't it.


and Life...I say this to you, because I happen not to agree with the consensus of opinion of this topic, does not mean that I wish to align myself to your view of the situation.

Margaret Pilkington 04-10-2009 19:10

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Oh, yes Kate.......I agree prevention is better than cure.......but I am not sure that this vaccine fits this bill entirely....vigilance, education and regular smear tests and follow up for all sexually active women would be a better way to go......but that is harder to achieve.

katex 04-10-2009 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 750473)
No, it wasn't taken out of context........I know the mother of this girl.......she doesn't live locally, but the 12 year old is a very young 12 year old, and arrived home after school very upset....initially would not divulge what had gone on, but her older brother, who attends the same school, heard everything that the Deputy head teacher said to the 12 year old, and he told his mother.

I think that is absolutely disgraceful Margaret, she had no right to make such a statement ... might as well have told her to take the contraceptive pill so that she would not get pregnant if ever she were raped !!

Wonder if any teachers in the country, who are against the vaccine, have expressed the opposite view ?

As for your responses to my post........ I fear that the girls will be decieved into thinking that they will be safe........will maybe not realise that after 5years they are no longer covered.(not sure if they are going to be offering booster shots).

Think you may have misunderstood the longevity of this vaccine. What they are saying is that they have only 7 years experience of this vaccine and, at the moment, that is all they can guarantee until time moves on and it appears to be effective well beyond this.

For example ... I had a replacement hip at the age of 42, after an accident at 39 which didn't heal. On consulatation re. replacement, I naturally asked the surgeon how long the new hip would last me. All he could reply was that he could only guarantee 10/12 years, as this is the length of time they had experience with at the time. I have now been the proud owner for 24 years with absolutely no problems.

My stance regarding Cervarix and Gardasil would be exactly the same if my daughter was of the age to receive it.......as for my daughters little girl (I don't admit to the GP role) while I would not interfere if her mother thought it was wise to have the vaccination, I personally, would not be suggesting that she have this vaccination.

I would never suggest that you would ... get the impression your daughter does have a strong mind of her own .. LOL.

I feel that there are other ways that this disease can be managed and contained.....the focus should be on education and encouraging girls to respect themselves more and not see sexual activity as a 'Sociable pastime'.......if girls are adult enough to indulge in this adult pursuit, then they must be adult enough to take responsibility for their actions.

We should be instilling morals into our children, but hey, that's old fashioned isn't it.

Yes, 'tis old fashioned, but eh oh .. most of the parents of young children have become active sexually early, and would not see any particular harm in it I suppose.

.

Oh, yes Kate.......I agree prevention is better than cure.......but I am not sure that this vaccine fits this bill entirely....vigilance, education and regular smear tests and follow up for all sexually active women would be a better way to go......but that is harder to achieve. quote by Margaret.

Absolutely ... but this would take decades to achieve (if ever) and in the meantime, young women are dying from this awful cancer, so better we save our youngsters during what could be an interim period .. of which I doubt there is one.

Remember, lots of people get married in their teens too and, obviously, sexual activity is not frowned on as immoral (not that I think it is anyway), so have to offer the best protection we know. The pill, coils, condoms do not offer any protection against cervical cancer ... just pregnancy .. so married couples will still be at risk.

BERNADETTE 05-10-2009 00:06

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MargP Boys carry and pass on the virus, so why not vaccinate them too.
Right Marg have I got this right? This virus is spread by sexual contact, so if all the sex education in schools was working and all kids had respect for their bodies they would use condoms thus eliminating the virus spreading? Know I can rely on you for a direct answer and also agree that the "old fashioned" method of opting out of casual sex is the way forward (but won't hold my breath). Whatever happened to kids being kids?

katex 05-10-2009 00:17

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Realise your question was directed at me Bernie, but condoms will not protect against the HPV virus, as there is still bodily contact. Lessens it sure, but not 100%.

By the way, no cases of cervical cancer have been found in nuns as yet.

katex 05-10-2009 00:32

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Sorry meant to say 'not' directed at me. Time I hit the sack ..LOL.

No doubt Life will return soon giving us the benefit of his narrowed views. Talks about open hearts .. wish I could find one in his verbal diarrhoea.

Margaret Pilkington 05-10-2009 05:36

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Jewish women do not get cervical cancer either. (jewish men are circumsised......!)
Kate I am not saying that all sexual activity is immoral, just that early sexual activity, and the fact that the earlier you begin sexual activity, the more likely you are to have multiple partners........and when talking of multiple partners, a women is sleeping with however many partners her man has had in his past.........so the girl may only have slept with one guy, but he may have slept with 300 women.......so he can have picked up the virus from any one of these partners and be passing it on willy-nilly(no pun intended).
In todays society, fidelity seems to count for very little, and sexual continence is practically unheard of.
These are just my own personal views and observations.
I really don't expect many people to agree with me. I guess I am old fashioned.....we are a dying breed.

Less 05-10-2009 09:15

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 750598)
we are a dying breed.

Is this because of age or some type of fatal disease? If it's the latter there may be a vaccination that can help.

(Sorry couldn't resist).
:p

katex 05-10-2009 10:22

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I do agree that we should encourage our children to hold themselves back on sexual activity, (not just your personal thoughts Margaret) just feel quite an almost impossible task in this day and age. Can't see that many men either would be virgins on their wedding day can you ?

Agree cervical cancer is lower in Jewish women, does still happen though ... and no concrete proof as yet due to circumcision .. other theories being worked on due to genes, etc. Otherwise ... mandatory circumcision should be demanded. :D Wonder what take Life has on that ? ;)

Less 05-10-2009 10:31

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 750663)
Otherwise ... mandatory circumcision should be demanded. :D Wonder what take Life has on that ? ;)

Don't worry, he will be on with a theory about it that will save his skin!

http://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s11357.gif

Margaret Pilkington 05-10-2009 10:48

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The incidence in Jewish women is very low........and it IS considered to be due to the effect of circumcision.......sorry if anyone considers this rude, but there is no foreskin for the virus to lurk under, and also Jewish hygiene is rigorous after sexual activity.

Less, we are a dying breed due to age......though I reckon there might be a good few years in me yet.

lindsay ormerod 05-10-2009 20:59

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I don't really give one about what he has to say, my daughter, my choice, I asked healthcare professionals and I made my mind up. Same as I would for any other vaccines, I do what I think is best. Beyond the pale anyway as I now work for Capita, and am enjoying it immensely!:D

jaysay 06-10-2009 03:37

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I've actually had a look at some of the links get-a-life has posted, what a bunch of total fruit cakes

Life 06-10-2009 10:27

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Hi All.

Mmm.

Margaret as I remember, it was you who sent me a message claiming to be my Allie, allies not required when the truth speaks for itself, and by the way it is not my truth this comes from medical experts and all those medical books I am not supposed to have but a concerned doctor gave them to me many years ago as I began my journey of exposure. Trouble is 99% of all medical staff are terrified to speak out, it is in the main doctors who have retired or have a private practice that speak the truth....Money Money Money.

Sorry to disappoint you all but the fact remains that more women in Israel get cancer than in Europe :

More women diagnosed with cancer in Israel than in Europe

By Dan Even
Source : HAARETZ


Israel's health ranking is dropping compared to those of developed European nations, the Israel Medical Association said yesterday.

Israel lags behind the European average in disease prevention, and has a noticeable lack of hospital beds and staff, it said.

The IMA used a new scale to rate several aspects of healthcare. Advertisement


In preventative medicine Israel scored 62 points out of 100 in 2007, down from 72 in 2005.

In 2007, 37 out of every 100,000 people caught whooping cough in Israel, far beyond the European average of 9 per 100,000. The measles infection rate in Israel was 7.5 out of 100,000.

Israel ranks comparatively high in childhood vaccinations, except for whooping cough, with 73 out of 100 points.

In medical infrastructure, measured by numbers of staff and beds, Israel ranked only 29 out of 100, in the bottom third of the 15 European states examined. The new data indicates the ratio of physicians and nurses compared to the population at large is continuing to decline, as the ratio of hospital beds and pharmacists increases.

Israel ranks well beyond Europe in terms of the number of new female cancer patients per year, with 290 diagnoses for every 100,000 people, compared to 179 on average in Europe. The cancer diagnosis rate for men is on par with the European average, but it has been rising steadily since 2005. Infant mortality rates and smoking rates are both lower than European rates.

The new analysis indicates considerable gaps between Israel's rich and poor, with the lack of hospital beds felt particularly in the periphery. The same gaps were noticeable in the ratio of operating rooms, with 3.4 rooms per 100,000 people in the south of the country and 3.7 in the north, but 8.7 per 100,000 people in Jerusalem. The study also found a connection between economic status and infant mortality rates, asthma and diabetes.

Overall, Israel received a rating of 50 out of 100, placing in the middle of the European scale. However, the IMA said that if the decline continues at this rate, Israel may find itself in the bottom third of the European scale by 2015.

The new information was released ahead of the IMA's general convention this week and its leadership elections, set for tomorrow. It was based on information collected by several medical organizations and institutions, which was then compared to information received from 15 developed European states, including Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Finland.

IMA chairman Dr. Yoram Balshar said he hopes the findings will "sound the alarm for the decision makers. Every decision made on treating such problems takes years to carry out, and the sooner they begin, the better."

More women diagnosed with cancer in Israel than in Europe - Haaretz - Israel News

More :

The Israels Women's Network - IWN PUBLISHES WOMEN'S HEALTH DATA BOOK

Pilot Study of Prevalence of High-Risk Human Papillomavirus Genotypes in Israeli Jewish Women Referred for Colposcopic Examination

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Vaccinations H1N1 :

Management in Practice - Swine flu prompts changes to Mental Health Act

Evidence of Thimerosal, H1N1 Virus in Seasonal Vaccination

Daycare Worker Told She’ll Be Fired For Refusing Mandatory Flu Shot

UK Children Brainwashed into MMR Vaccine Support Through Manipulation of Academic Exams

Health | State lifts limit on mercury preservative in swine-flu shots | Seattle Times Newspaper

former vaccine development scientist speaks out on the dangers and ineffectuality of vaccination

Welcome To Vaccine Awareness Network

Supermarket Bloody Vax Campaign Pushes ObamaCare

Most parents won't have kids get H1N1 flu shots, study finds -- latimes.com

YouTube - Forced Vaccines Refused By Nurses In New York

A Glimpse into the Scary World o

BBC NEWS | Health | Schoolgirl dies after cancer jab

VIDEO: Vaccine Nation

Still Not Convinced HIV Is Bogus? by James Foye

Cervical cancer vaccine continues killing young girls like Natalie Morton; is pathology report a pharma cover-up? (opinion) by Mike Adams the Health Ranger

Canada will protect swine flu vaccine maker from lawsuits - thestar.com

Poll: Nearly 2/3 of U.S. parents won't vaccinate their children against H1N1


I know full well the truth relating to a womans weakness would upset a few, but facts are facts and the very reason the family has been demolished over the last 40 years was to remove the protection of the male from the family unit so the elite can tax the other half, vaccinate, thrust children into child centers for state indoctrination, ensure children have TV in their bedroom to watch all the sex on tv so the same elites can blame the parent (single mothers) for the rise in teenage pregnancies.

Watch the following video to understand who funded womens lib and why, it is in the last section of the video :

YouTube - Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo




O yes I do mean weakness.

If one wishes to have children they had better make sure they choose the correct partner, or responsible you are not, a good parent never!

If one cannot understand that children grow to become the product of their upbringing, then one is below parr, especially so if one feels removing the father ...because you can... is beneficial to the soul of the child.

you live in a give up mindset, if the tv says it is ok then you follow like little sheep, if it is on corrie then it is the new gospel of god...

Yes I can see Accrington is overwhelmingly peopled by thinking minds, not.

Interesting that one said my children are not ill because yours are vaccinated...... My children are not ill because i allowed their immune system to build by allowing all normal illness to play its course thus building the immune system to fight all other illness.

I have just had the flu over the weekend, no fuss, no bother, and no vaccination, just plenty of lemon tea. I am fine today which is the usual thing with the flu, you seem to have very short memories and a addiction to everything that pours out from the medical operatives mouths. So take responsibility for your actions, and if your children get cancer or any other fatal disease face the fact it is a long term effect of the vaccinations you gave when they were children, i think it is called infanticide.

As a parent I take full responsibility fore my children's health and well being, i will not hand over that god given right to the state, especially one controlled by Nazis.

What you all need to understand today is that what happened in Germany in the 1930's, was an attack, one which the German people could not see coming until it was too late....you are falling for the very same, so you should realise you are no better than the Germans of their time, they did not see it you do not see it, but the terrible thing today is the fact you do not want to see it, that is unforgivable, that is weakness....and you are that weakness.

Margaret Pilkington 06-10-2009 10:33

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Life I have never sent you a message of that sort.

Margaret Pilkington 06-10-2009 10:42

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Life, I have checked through all of my sent PM's right up to June, and No message was sent to you...please do not misrepresent me in this manner......I do not appreciate it.
I have my own views which are in no way similar to yours.

Life 06-10-2009 10:45

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Hi All.

Cancer is so rife today because they have learned how to create it in the lab, then spread it across the globe, Depleted Uranium is one of the main causes of genetic disorders. All weapons fired in Iraq _ Afghanistan have depleted uranium in them and it takes only a few hours for all that uranium to reach England :

YouTube - MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX

I was never a religious man, but the Bible does indeed speak of what the demon will carry forth should man not heed the warnings....we have not headed the warnings...we are at the mercy of technology which has been weaponised, right down to your light bulbs which if you use the energy saving ones have masses of mercury within them, HAARP uses this mercury.

The smoke detectors give off radiation, and of course the fire service pushes you all to put them close to your children's bedroom. Radiation kills living cells, it changes DNA.

Full study here :

LIFEINTHEMIX 2.CO.UK HAARP = DEATH

Time to awaken to the 666 grid or die.

Life 06-10-2009 10:46

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Hi All.
sorry wrong margaret....

Life 06-10-2009 10:51

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Hi All.

Jay, just looking at your piccy leaves me rather perplexed that you feel I am the fruitcake....overweight, full of medication.....would you like to re-think!

If you cannot comprehend the information within the links then perhaps the medication is responsible, for i am sure you did receive an education long ago...

Margaret Pilkington 06-10-2009 10:58

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Thank you for the apology.

MargaretR 06-10-2009 11:05

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This is what I said early in this thread.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 741745)
It is all part of the anger phase.
He feels threatened by unfolding events and wants to retaliate, and needs to 'recruit' more people to his way of thinking in order to succeed.

Many people think as he does - some just lack finesse in explaining themselves. That does not mean he is to be ridiculed or derided for it.

In some ways he thinks he is doing mankind a favour in broadcasting it.
That is his ego showing - and we all have one of those if we would only admit it:)

I sent a PM advising him to tone it down.

BERNADETTE 06-10-2009 14:24

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Quote:

Life Interesting that one said my children are not ill because yours are vaccinated...... My children are not ill because i allowed their immune system to build by allowing all normal illness to play its course thus building the immune system to fight all other illness.
An interesting theory if I may say but none the less a flawed one. The diseases you say your children are immune to are virtually non-exsistent these days due to other parents having their children vaccinated against them. If for example we had an epidemic of say measles or whooping cough then your theory could perhaps be put to the test but until then you can't claim to know for sure that your children are immune to childhood diseases.

garinda 06-10-2009 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 751114)
Hi All.

Jay, just looking at your piccy leaves me rather perplexed that you feel I am the fruitcake....overweight, full of medication.....would you like to re-think!

If you cannot comprehend the information within the links then perhaps the medication is responsible, for i am sure you did receive an education long ago...


You really are an ignoramus.

Why don't you post a photograph of yourself, and we can critique your appearance, and decide if you look as stupid as the things you say.

nicola68 06-10-2009 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 751201)
You really are an ignoramus.

Why don't you post a photograph of yourself, and we can critique your appearance, and decide if you look as stupid as the things you say.

Garinda....Can you read my mind... my sentiments exactly....:D x

It is so sad when you have to descend to flinging insults to get a point across... this looks like a person that is on the losing side of a discussion to me...:)

Life 06-10-2009 17:23

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Hi All.

Bernadette.

It is not a theory, it is a fact that an adults immunity is built based on all they catch as children, this is what it does, it learns....

I do not have the info to hand, I have had two pc's destroyed by intel or some such, so my archives are in a mess at the moment, I will keep it in mind and when I find it i will post it for you to look at...

Thanks for accepting my apology MP.

I know it would seem each time jay has something to say it is derogatory....sorry but I find the best way to deal with such is throw it back... Keeps him busy and able to join the exchange..

Coppice 06-10-2009 17:51

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Life. I think you have been taking too much of that plaster dust into your system, or is it the dryrot when you remove plaster from a wall, inhaled through your nose and into your brain because something must of gone to your head to mash it up this much

Life 06-10-2009 19:46

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Hi All.

Removing plaster......no no no....New build commercial only!

Perhaps the reason you suggest such is the fact you have the spores in your home, hence the reason you thought of such drivel.

You either wake up today or as they come to take you for your vaccination

lindsay ormerod 06-10-2009 20:12

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So the Fire brigade are in on a plot to give our children cancer by fitting smoke alarms and positioning them outside the kids bedrooms...... what a complete load of tripe, you really ought to get out more and stop believing every conspiracy theory that comes your way. Where else would any sensible person put a smoke alarm ? Summat to do with smoke rising and triggering the alarm I think.......:rolleyes:.
At first I felt a liitle bit sorry for you, obviously care in the community has failed, but you are more worrying than the average loony, if anyone wants their grey cells examining on here it's you!

katex 06-10-2009 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 751269)


It is not a theory, it is a fact that an adults immunity is built based on all they catch as children, this is what it does, it learns....

I think this inane remark has just proved your naivety of immune systems (not that my knowledge is great .. am willing to admit that).

You can, without a doubt, build up a child's resistance/power to fight off infections starting with breast feeding, good food, fresh air and exercise ... but will not be good enough to grant them immunity from virus/bacterial infections in the first place.

To have any sort of 100% immunity to a particular disease, you have had to have had it in the first place. No matter, how fit and healthy your children are they are in great danger of contracting measles, TB, mumps, whooping cough, etc., if brought into contact with other sufferers ... and if they are strong, may be able to fight it quicker than most people ... or not ! They could still be extremely poorly or worst scenario, die. Problem is, that because some parents have resisted allowing their children to have the MMR jabs ... there are still outbreaks of these illnesses.

Just wondering what type of condition you are thinking about when you say 'all they catch as children'. Ok. if they have had german measles as a child, will have immunity, and no risk to any unborn baby they may carry.

If they went abroad, would you advice them from not having a yellow fever injection/taking malaria tablets for instance ? These are high risk problems in certain countrys, which have an extremely high death rate.

By the way, I don't think for a minute you have suffered flu over the weekend ! You would still be flat on your back.

Anyway, I have had my flu injection today ... feel great ... ;)

Life 06-10-2009 21:27

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Hi All.

It is not a risk to catch measles and mumps....they need to have these illnesses to bolster the immune system. Are you too young to remember measles parties?

You are right you do not know much about the immune system!

The firemen have no idea what they are promoting, to them it is common sense...but...

These things give off radiation ....radiation kills living cells....please feel free to explain how having radioactive gizmo's in your home can be anything other than dangerous?

injection today ...keep us posted on how you feel if you do not mind?

katex 06-10-2009 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 751338)
Hi All.

It is not a risk to catch measles and mumps....they need to have these illnesses to bolster the immune system. Are you too young to remember measles parties?

At this point .. I give up !!! :rolleyes::rolleyes: Too young ??... 66 ya' young sprogg !! Measles and Mumps partys ??? :rofl38: No way !! Catching these, you are running the risk of deafness and infertility in the males ... not a good idea at all. Two diseases to be avoided if possible ... just one way .. immunisation .. ;)Catching them would give you immunity from catching them again ! .. no others !! ... :rolleyes:

You are right you do not know much about the immune system!

The firemen have no idea what they are promoting, to them it is common sense...but...

These things give off radiation ....radiation kills living cells....please feel free to explain how having radioactive gizmo's in your home can be anything other than dangerous?

Echo Lindsay's post. You telling us now you have no smoke alarms fitted, with four children and a wife in the house ?

injection today ...keep us posted on how you feel if you do not mind?

Of course.


............................

katex 06-10-2009 22:19

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Just an add on. A certain person today did point out that there may be problems with Lemsip. Horror, horror, Life has taken that for his 'flu' !

Let me see now ... got down me box from the shelf, looks at ingredients hey ! what is this ?

Paracetamol of course.

Aspartame .. well, you know all about that, don't you ?

Phenylephrine hydrochloride (think I've typed that OK .. LOL) ... can cause increased blood pressure, dilation of the pupils, dizziness, weakness, tremours, arrhythmics.

Xylitol .. another sweetener ... but has a nasty sting ... possibility of diarrhoea !!

Sweet dreams my poppet. x

Restless 06-10-2009 22:45

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As a toddler, I forget which it was..either mumps or measles gave me my 'lazy' eye and also damaged my eyesite causing me to a bit of both short and long sited. I certainly wouldn't put my child at risk of infection to mumps or measles.

Coppice 06-10-2009 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 751310)
Hi All.

Removing plaster......no no no....New build commercial only!

Perhaps the reason you suggest such is the fact you have the spores in your home, hence the reason you thought of such drivel.

You either wake up today or as they come to take you for your vaccination


you arrogant idiot. The reason I suggest such is before you sling around insults to users you should protect your personal info. I WHOIS'd your website and all info is there to see. You're home address, Telephone number, email address and you're Plastering 'name' AKA tek plastering. You think you're above the rest of the users here but you are just another crazed conspiracy nut that should STFU. This is not a personal attack but is personal advice because if i can figure out you're home address and im a peaceful soul a nutter that you may offend one day may just be clever enough to get the same info..... a KIND warning

COPPICE!

katex 06-10-2009 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 751377)
As a toddler, I forget which it was..either mumps or measles gave me my 'lazy' eye and also damaged my eyesite causing me to a bit of both short and long sited. I certainly wouldn't put my child at risk of infection to mumps or measles.

Ok .. admit to googling to endorse my point Restless :-

9. Squint
Measles can also cause a squint in your child's eye, which previously seemed normal. A squint is due to a weakening of one of the muscles controlling the eye. It is thought that in measles cases the weakness was probably there but your child was able to compensate for it. However, after suffering from measles your child is no longer able to do this, and the squint becomes noticeable. There are no figures available for the frequency of this condition when associated with measles.

Bless ..x

Life 06-10-2009 23:08

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Hi All.

Lemon tea, not lemsip...

would not have a smoke alarm in any room in the house, turn off at the socket...

arrogant idiot....

Well i was certainly known as a nutter in my time as you put it, so not too worried about nutters. and there is always my cat!

Benipete 06-10-2009 23:17

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I just could not resist.YouTube - They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa! Napoleon XIV

Just for you Life

katex 06-10-2009 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 751388)
Hi All.

Lemon tea, not lemsip...

Oh bother ... apologies .. :o Just spent 1/2 hour constructing that post .. still now I know what Lemsip contains now... LOL.

Restless 06-10-2009 23:30

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its true katex. I do have a lazy eye. Over time it has straightened somewhat and goes 'lazy' mostly when i take my glasses off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 751385)
Ok .. admit to googling to endorse my point Restless :-

9. Squint
Measles can also cause a squint in your child's eye, which previously seemed normal. A squint is due to a weakening of one of the muscles controlling the eye. It is thought that in measles cases the weakness was probably there but your child was able to compensate for it. However, after suffering from measles your child is no longer able to do this, and the squint becomes noticeable. There are no figures available for the frequency of this condition when associated with measles.

Bless ..x


Life 07-10-2009 07:25

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Hi All.

Apology accepted and now we all know what garbage is in the lemsip, so not wasted at all.....

So they are coming to take the poster away eh....are you asking me to publish your story?

Less 07-10-2009 13:23

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I think it's time we all mellowed a little and started taking heed of what Life is telling us, after all he is a very brave man.

How many of us would risk life and limb by touching a plastic keyboard full of modern toxin's and no doubt using up the world's resources at a rate that means by the time my own keyboard fills up with crusty curry sauce and other unhealthy food droppings, I won't be able to go to my P.C. World and buy a replacement.

Of course he could be taking precautions by wearing rubber gloves to insulate him from the worst effects, but then, aren't they supplied by pharmaceutical Companies and we all know that they are the really evil people that would like to destroy him before he has informed the World of their plans to remove anyone with an I.Q. lower than a snail, no wonder he is worried.
(Any snails out there please don't be worried about this statement IT IS, only lower lifeforms these companies aim to eradicate).

http://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s10570.gif

lindsay ormerod 07-10-2009 21:06

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Any firemen on here like to respond to this nonsense? I am not entirely convinced that turning things off at the plug would stop all house fires!! Are we to believe that in Life's lovely cosy house nothing is left on overnight? No freezer? No alarm clock? No phone charger?

ps My daughter says she feels fine after her jabs and "her head hasn't fallen off yet"
Ooh by the way, is my contraceptive jab some sort of alien implant that I need to be aware of?
Sorry , but this is the daftest thing I have ever read.:rolleyes:

Restless 07-10-2009 22:58

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not the daftest by far.
My friend brought around a video of Credo Mutwa talking to david icke... Now that was daft.
Credo was telling david that an alien with bright red pubic hair raped him and turned him into a bixsexual. He goes on to tell how in the new star wars films some of the aliens are what the aliens that interbreeded with humanity looks like. He said in early human history we were born with no sex and that aliens came and made two caves. Some went in one and some went in another and when they came out they were male and female :rolleyes::D

Life 08-10-2009 08:20

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Hi All.

Ah bless, it would seem my antagonists have run out of steam...rubber gloves David Icke.... Aliens.....

Not sure at which point I have spoken of such but if it makes you feel warm and secure....no worries.

Interesting though this may be, in all my 42 years I have never had a house fire, forgive my ignorance but I do remember a time not that long ago in the time before smoke alarms, fires were no more prevalent than they are today.

Today many fires do seem to start with overloaded sockets, which suggests numtyness.

You will no doubt like this next bit, I am sure it will inspire you to remain off topic, but....I do not have a fridge or freezer, I have nothing electrical in my bedroom, and as for mobile phones left on all night.....not happening.

I rather like to eat out given I am a crap cook, sort of cant cook wont cook scenario. Maybe I am just one of those aliens of which you speak, but my lifestyle suits my demeanor.

Any way my fire precautions consist of very large stones I have picked up on my travels, a few baseball bats etc, a stone thrown threw the window followed by my good self, but the most important ingredient is never to fear about things until they are happening....you should try it!

Take the cat, tootling down the street minding its own business, a dog arrives and the cat will react in fear, as soon as the dog has gone the cat will settle itself and let go of the fear it experienced for the moment it required action, then back to its chilled out walk.

The point of this little ditty would be, that to carry all the fear around with you places you in a insecure mindset, under these circumstances one is not thinking clearly, very open to suggestion, and very easily controlled by whomever places their self in the frame as your protector, you become a servant to fear and thus those you see as guardian.

The fact is, for some very strange reason you have all been inflicted with outright fear over the FLU......has positioned the medical mafia as guardian, they say take the shot, not for medical benefit but because they too have let go of their sanity and operate in the same fear as you.

Medical staff are not evil as you put it, but those to which the medical staff take their dictate are. I know this therefore under no circumstances will I exist in fear, I will however offer what i know to be so to others who are also less inclined to fear the fact they are alive, I suppose to conclude in this regard, those who offer only insults cannot exist outside of the fear pushed out via local radio, TV, and the papers.

Turn off the tv, the radio for a week, and notice the fear subside, if you ain't listening to the horror story, it cannot grab you, it only works while you are in the story, but I suppose such an option for most is abhorrent, what will we do, how can we survive without the brainstorming box in the corner?

Very well indeed I reply.

garinda 08-10-2009 11:34

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Blimey those clock-work computers allow you to qrite an awful lot





















...of guff.

Margaret Pilkington 08-10-2009 11:55

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Life, you say that fear places you in a position of insecurity, but what are you doing with your links to sites with stuff on them that would scare the humblest person out of their wits?........Aah, I see, you are educating........and would tell us that it isn't the same thing......but information given in a format that is indigestible causes fear and anxiety........we don't all have the same mental capacities, but that doesn't make anyone 'numpty', a derogatory insult, if ever I heard one.......it may make them uneducated, and this can be remedied, but in an appropriate way.
I think you need to look at how you determine what the forum members are like.......you need to judge them less.......either that or find a forum where your thinly veiled insults are acceptable.

Life 08-10-2009 14:56

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Hi All.

Ok so MP would rather fall out?

The fear given out via the TV and media is a false threat, it then forces your attention to the police and government to PROTECT YOU.
I show you what is really going on, yes it brings forth fear, but like ridding a cycle, the more you see it the less you fear. In this case to confront the reality and deal with all the emotions that arise, you are positioning yourself in the position to stop it.

I show you your power, the TV shows your weakness and presents the state as power...its called communism.

Thinly veiled, I thought they were pretty clear.

If you look through the posts I respond with like.

Its only an education to a pupil, a pupil is one who wants to learn

I am always learning.....:theband:

Less 08-10-2009 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Life (Post 751715)
Hi All.



I show you your power, the TV shows your weakness and presents the state as power...its called communism.

Could you please explain how as a free thinker that you claim to be, a thread about Vaccinations suddenly becomes an anti-Communist thread?


You talk about thread wandering, you insult people because the way they look doesn't suit your ideal, (a very weak argument, you have to agree), and then all of a sudden we aren't talking about Vaccinations, we are talking about 'Reds under our bed's', come on, whatever artificial sensory stimulant you are using, share it with the rest of us, we would also like to live in a world like yours.

http://planetsmilies.net/smoking-smiley-5427.gif

Benipete 08-10-2009 16:44

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Herbert Charles Angelo Kuchacevich von Schluderbacheru.

Are you related Life? Could explain a Lot

lindsay ormerod 08-10-2009 17:41

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For your information, I am not scared of FLU , I am not scared of most things, though house fires are pretty nasty, believe me I have first hand knowledge and if you did you would protect the children you claim to care so much about by having smoke alarms. No answers to our other queries though? Another one to ponder, would you get a malaria jab if you were going abroad or just trust to chance that your "non fear" of the mosquito would be enough?:rolleyes:

Life 08-10-2009 18:26

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Hi All.

I think you miss the point....the smoke detectors give off radiation, more detectors more radiation....radiation kills living cells and mutates living cells.

I would not take a malaria jab, chances are I had all that in the Military anyhow....

If I have failed to answer your questions my apologies but I don't usually have much time, but I still seem to have the flu, so I would be happy to answer if you do not mind presenting them again.

Life 08-10-2009 18:34

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Hi All.
Less.

Communism is the state dictating to the people, In this case we have the global state, the United Nations, via its little lapdog, The World Health Organisation, dictating to all citizens or assets, to take a vaccine. Communism came into the equation because this is the term used for social dictatorship, it came in all by itself

Margaret Pilkington 08-10-2009 18:53

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Life, you have me all wrong.......I do not want to fall out.....with anyone.
I believe that every single person on here has the right to their opinion, and to respect for their opinion.......I may not agree with them but I still would give them respect......I wouldn't be denigrating their perceived lack of education, for it may not be that at all, it may have been in the way the post was written....unclear, or undigestable.......and however ill educated you perceive someone to be.......they can always learn......given that the lessons are pitched at the right level and with adequate content.

As for the attitude of you paying like with like.......that is a very immature way to respond, can be likened to a shool-yard and 'he did it first Miss'...or 'he started it'.
You cannot change how other people respond, you can only affect the way that you respond to them, and if someone insults you and then you insult them back you have descended to the lowest level.

Not at all a good way to go about things.

If you truly want to educate, then you do it by example, and the example you give at present is not a good one...but hey, that is only my opinion.

Margaret Pilkington 08-10-2009 18:56

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And it was the insults that were thinly veiled.....perhaps I didn't make myself clear.

Life 08-10-2009 19:40

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Hi All.

Point taken Margaret...:D

West Ender 08-10-2009 21:44

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Hello Life, are you British? I only ask because you refer to being "in the Military", not a phrase we tend to use in this country, or did you just assimilate it with all your other learning?

Restless 09-10-2009 00:29

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im guessing life is from accy after what coppice said

Life 09-10-2009 11:45

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Hi All.

I am indeed from Accrington...

Less 09-10-2009 14:34

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Originally Posted by Life (Post 751898)
Hi All.

I am indeed from Accrington...

From Accy but now living where?

Please don't bother answering if you feel that you're security would be compromised, though it might be handy for the rest of us, we can put a 50 mile cordon around your area just to keep the kids too young for vaccinations out of there until we can get them treated properly by the NHS.
Call the NHS as you might, when it comes to children, pregnant women, or those found to have cancer they are usually quick off the mark.

(Makes me a touch jealous, I'm in none of those group's I feel quite ignored).
:o

Life 09-10-2009 21:45

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Hi All.

Yes I am in Accrington.

There is no need to worry over my security, I am not hiding, Intel know exactly were I am and what I am doing. The question is do you know who Intel are working for because it is not Britain?

No need to worry about exclusion zones I only present the information, I am not one for forcing anyone to do anything, hence my work.

Where We Are

The hype has been carried out, it is pretty obvious the majority of Blighties are still sane and well over two thirds have said no thanks to the vaccination, including GP's and Nurses, the other third are those who have taken the NLP slap bang into their being.

So was this just a beta test to see if all the democratic departments were in place and ready to go?

Is it to actually release a deadly virus later in the year, even perhaps the Canadian winter Olympics, which would spread whatever bio-weapon they released at the Olympics, across the globe as spectators returned to their native countries, or indeed to create another 911 which had many casualties from across the globe, thus affecting many families giving maximum damage to the false flag event 911 most certainly was?

If memory serves me well I think Nostradamus prophesied a terrible event at an Olympics....

Is it the drill and means to their implementation of full global Martial Law, which thus removes all civilian laws which protect civilians and politicians alike? (The Law of The Sea, British Admiralty Law, over the law of the land, Common Law)

We shall have to wait and see.

At least you are more prepared than you were a month or so ago.


"My people are destroyed through lack of knowledge"

Very apt today and always I feel.

lindsay ormerod 09-10-2009 22:07

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Ooooh Nostradamus is it now? Well all his quatrains make about as much sense as your inane ramblings, you can read anything into them and if you are sad enough to believe it , then fine , just get on with and stop trying to force your ludicrous views on other people.
You bang on about indoctrination and people being forced into doing things against their better judgement; what exactly do you think you are doing on here? You keep harping back to the same old conspiracy theories, preying on peoples minds, trying to sow seeds of doubt and fear where there are none. If anyone is sick it's you, I really don't give one about any of your half baked theories and scare mongering but more vulnerable people may well be taken in by it. Do us all a favour and go and see your own GP, that's if he hasn't blacklisted you,and get something to calm you down, straitjacket or a nice padded room should do it....

Restless 10-10-2009 01:38

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accyweb has its own david icke or alex jones in form of our buddy life. I have a friend that smokes lots of cannabis and is just like life...talking about this crap all the time. Perhaps life has had too much smoka smoka and its gone to his head??

Life 10-10-2009 09:14

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Hi All.

I see we have found a definite two who are in the category of one third NLP programmed.

Lyndsay, stop looking at my rantings as you call them if it upsets you so.

Nostradamus means nothing at all to those who have no insight into the esoteric knowledge, just except you are one of those.

Restless, we have covered the cannabis issue before, I do not drink nor smoke cannabis, if your friend has studied outside the box then all well and good for him, are we to say priests and occultist' must smoke cannabis because they exist with a good grasp of the esoteric?

Clutching at straws comes to mind in relation to Restless and lindsay. I will bet my bottom dollar both of you know exactly what is going on in corrie and Eastenders not forgetting of course whatever x factor garbage is on the TV presently, which of course you will pass onto your children to educate them all about depressive mindsets and how we must all have one, and how to become a talentless star and work for the Freemason Simon Cowell to ensure real artists never see the light of day with the people believing they have real artists filling the musical gap...

Once upon a time we had real artists singing real issues, this created the 1960's revolution and then the Punk of the 70's, not all that came from these times was good, but it stopped women being locked away for getting pregnant, and children taken for being born out of wedlock, women got the vote, Vietnam was stopped...

Of course we no longer have real artists singing as they feel, we are at war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, unmarried pregnant girls are now going to be pushed into hostels, children are being taken away.... Our troops in Afghanistan are ensuring the opium production has sky rocketed and is sent to NATO's European underworld centre, Kosovo to be distributed across Europe,because no media outlet will report this properly.

Our military has been removed from our country while it is destroyed from within by government on command of the Crown corporate entities such as capita Symonds and the John Adam Street gang, but hey corrie is on on Monday so who cares and who wants to care?

The elite have decreed that the population of the UK must be halved and yet you seem to be unable to connect the dots....population cull.....forced vaccinations... War....strewth.

We have parents happy to send their children of to invade other countries when only a generation or so ago most of our men were killed fighting a nation which was funded via Wall Street on the orders of London, for invading Poland....yes ladies and gentlemen it was Britain who declared war on Germany not the other way round.

911 and London 77 bombings were a farce, carried out by our own intelligence agencies which globally are one operation acting for the International bankers against we the people. Everyone loves Barack Obumer who has just received the Nobel Peace Prize for expanding everything George W Bush began...but you miss this contradiction....WHY?

Is it I who is ill because I see things as they are, just as there were those who saw the same in Germany and in Britain as the elite created the last
Great wars, who were then locked up under regulation 18b so the people would not see the truth, many of which died in British prisons, especially the psychics and mediums...must not have the dead coming back and speaking the truth through a medium...

Well here we are again, the Academies are funded and controlled via the Military industrial Complex, hell bent on creating a conveyor belt of soldiers, and how cool they are, they will even allow ladies to fight on the front line, how inclusive are these political elites in their equality of death...

The middle class are about to lose everything as they crash the economy again now they have suckered you to put your money back into the stock markets....

The dollar is about to die and the end to the only nation able to stop the European royal bloodlines who have managed to take control of the whole globe since the deluge, and are now moving their empire to China...China in a recent report are said to boil their aborted fetuses to eat for sex, how loverly we are all to be governed by the Chinese and take their form of communism into our system, one child per parent chosen by the state, get pregnant without permission and you are forced to have an abortion and then you are imprisoned.

Yes indeed living in cloud cuckoo land watching garbage will certainly prevent all of the above....not.

Your country is dying, 30 million have been earmarked for concentration camp and death, and you say I am crazy.......
Yes there are no camps here in Blighty, they are all in the eastern European countries, the Gulags of the Soviet Union, and Ireland has now voted yes on the Lisbon treaty, once ratified we are all Europeans and you will be jailed anywhere in the EU, did you miss that in all the hu ha in corrie?

Jailed for fixing your own plumbing, for fixing your own car, both of these are part of the 170.000 new laws and statutes waiting in the wings as soon as the treaty is fully ratified and in place, life indeed is going to take a big turn for the worse very soon not because I say so, but because you never knew about it and therefore have allowed it to continue.

Ignorance is bliss but it will not save you or your children's lives.

Life 10-10-2009 10:06

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Hi All.

Sorry about posting the above twice, there seems to be no way of deleting it......

Here are the links to support the above :

Sending mothers into hostels if they receive benefits :

Teenage Mothers Will Be Sent To Hostels, Not Given Council Flats, Vows Brown » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

On Kosovo :

LIFEINTHEMIX 2.CO.UK TRUTH ABOUT KOSOVO

On Capita Symonds :

In Profile : Capita Symonds Accrington Academy » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

On The John Adam Street gang :

In Profile : The John Adam Street Gang » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

End part Of The green party's Johnathan Porrit on halving UK populations :

Porritt: "As far as my own personal view about where that will take us
goes i would just leave you I imagine with the state of confusion that
your probably all in already. I spend most of my life today trying to
avoid what I call Lovelock'ian despair Jim Lovelock is an astonishing
man and an amazing charismatic figure, one of the scientists I have the
most respect for in the world today and I'm a scared of all that because
I've always though of Jim being something different and very special.
But the truth of it is when you hear Jim talk about his own unique brand
of apocalyptic optimism, this is optimism premised on the death of
around 6 billion people which for me is a tough line in optimism I have
to say, once you hear him really roll that out that there is a lot of
hope for the future of humankind bit of a shame we got to go through a
bit of a turbulent period first with massive incalculable awful pain
inflicted on human societies I cant really share with Jim the sense that
thats the right way to engage people in this debate. So I'm kind of
nervous, because i have a horrible suspicion at the back of my brain
which i don't really let out that often that Jim is more likely to be
right than more people I know today. But I've allowed myself this
illusion that we probably still have a window of time to prove people
like Jim wrong. It isn't a very big window, no point putting years on it
but it's really quite short as we all know. and if we can't do what we
need to do with that short window of time then the intellectually honest
position will be unavoidable which is then we are talking about managing
an astonishing holocaust in terms of the way human beings manage there
own future. So that's up the anti in terms of urgency of which we need
to share this agenda and I think it leaves all of us in a quite
difficult position psychologically which is needing to empower other
people to do what needs to be down without crushing them with the
despair of a Lovelock'ian world view, this is tricky stuff frankly and
we're all involved in that and thank god at least a group of people like
this knows that population has to be part of that, not an irrelevant
adjunct to it."

The most in depth video documentary on 911 :

Loose Change Final Cut

On the 77 London bombings :

Ludicrous Diversion - 7/7 London Bombings Documentary

On Regulation 18b :

Regulation18b and the Truth About European Union

On the Military Industrial Complex and the Academies :

LIFEINTHEMIX.ORG.UK ARK ACADEMIES-SCHOOLS

On the Stock market :

Take Your Money Out Of The Stock Markets » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

On the death of the dollar :

US Deficit ‘Hits Record $1.4tn’ » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

On Europe :

The Lisbon Treaty : The Reality » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

jaysay 10-10-2009 10:14

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There's one thing about Get A Life, he has more time on his hands than I have, by all the diatribe he writes

MargaretR 10-10-2009 10:36

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The population of the world has been fed a version of 'truth' that governments want us to believe.
The fact that other versions have been found has led me to question what I have been told to believe.
If you are comfortable believing 'official' versions' I envy your comfort zone.
I can remember when I had that level of trust too.

My level of interest has been ancient history and spirituality.
There has been a suppression of archeological finds - many have been vaulted or destroyed by The Smithsonian Institute.
Those frustrated archeologists are now relating what they have found via the internet.
It is quite a revelation when you realise that truth is witheld and facts distorted.

If governments supress the truth of history, then it is reasonable to assume that they manipulate your knowledge of the present.

Life 10-10-2009 10:45

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Hi All.

Come now jay it has been not half an hour since I posted the above and you replied....Are you to have us believe you have looked at any of the links?

Interesting Margaret brings up the Smithsonian Institute, The Duke of Westminster busy stealing Lancashire, is of the Smithsonian family, which shows British Crown control of the American Institute..

Grosvenor Estates has Liverpool One, it now wants Preston, and of course in Blackburn it is behind the cathedral takeover of Blackburn centre....

Life 10-10-2009 11:09

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Hi All.

Just to add insight into the planned global population cull, here is one of the insane eugenicist organisations advising the World Health Organisation...
Welcome To The Optimum Population Trust :

The Optimum Population Trust : What The Hell Is This Devil Of A Think Tank » Lifeinthemixtalk.com

lindsay ormerod 10-10-2009 13:02

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Ya got me all wrong again Life, I don't watch any soap operas , I don't watch much tv at all, I do read a lot and take a lot of interest in my child's education, something you have no right to make any assumptions about. You don't know me at all, and please don't think that you have any insights into my life at all. You are a sad individual and to be honest I feel more pity for you than anything, you are always looking for the darker side of everything and that's a grim way to live!

Life 10-10-2009 13:23

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Hi All.

Well Lyndsay unfortunately I do have a very deep insight into your life whether you like it or not.

I have entered the dark side so I can bring it to your attention, one can cry all day if thou wants, but the dark side is coming out and it has you, your children and family in its sights, you will die under the NWO, your children will be sold into paedophile rings and worse.

face the fact because anyone who has intelligence can see, you are afraid to look at what is coming, now that is what the Rabbit does as the car headlights hit it, it freezes and it dies, and I suppose it was thinking exactly the same thoughts you have presented here, and just to keep you focused....it got splattered across the asphalt and forgotten.

jaysay 10-10-2009 14:17

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Originally Posted by Life (Post 752146)
Hi All.

Come now jay it has been not half an hour since I posted the above and you replied....Are you to have us believe you have looked at any of the links?

Interesting Margaret brings up the Smithsonian Institute, The Duke of Westminster busy stealing Lancashire, is of the Smithsonian family, which shows British Crown control of the American Institute..

Grosvenor Estates has Liverpool One, it now wants Preston, and of course in Blackburn it is behind the cathedral takeover of Blackburn centre....

Firstly the names jaysay to you prat, and no I haven't looked at the links, I have better things to do, like pulling my teeth out with pliers

MargaretR 10-10-2009 15:01

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Originally Posted by Life (Post 752180)
Hi All.

Well Lyndsay unfortunately I do have a very deep insight into your life whether you like it or not.

I have entered the dark side so I can bring it to your attention, one can cry all day if thou wants, but the dark side is coming out and it has you, your children and family in its sights, you will die under the NWO, your children will be sold into paedophile rings and worse.

face the fact because anyone who has intelligence can see, you are afraid to look at what is coming, now that is what the Rabbit does as the car headlights hit it, it freezes and it dies, and I suppose it was thinking exactly the same thoughts you have presented here, and just to keep you focused....it got splattered across the asphalt and forgotten.

I entirely disagree
There are enough people worldwide now who now realise the true reality of our existence, that the plans to implement these atrocities are being scuppered.
This is a very big subject which you need to research yourself, if you want to.(It involves delving into quantum physics.)

The message I have gained from such delving is
......fear is the destructive element that is being used against us.

Discard fear and they will fail. So don't stimulate fear
resistance 'yes' but fear 'no'
But even if you do fear, enough people now have abandoned fear, so that the collective concious mind has already overcome any threats.

Less 10-10-2009 15:15

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 752171)
Ya got me all wrong again Life, I don't watch any soap operas , I don't watch much tv at all, I do read a lot and take a lot of interest in my child's education, something you have no right to make any assumptions about. You don't know me at all, and please don't think that you have any insights into my life at all. You are a sad individual and to be honest I feel more pity for you than anything, you are always looking for the darker side of everything and that's a grim way to live!

Isn't Life strange? (both the life we live in the real world and this twisted moron), whenever you or indeed anyone else puts forward something he either can't answer or it makes so much sense he always says don't read this thread.

Well life, rather than her not reading it how about, if you're losing your silly battle go elsewhere to post, most of us feel very sorry for you and our own little, theorist who now after all this desperate time thinking she had a friend she could believe in is showing doubts in your exclusive worldly wise information, good for you Margaret there is hope that you can join the rest of us back in reality after all.

MargaretR 10-10-2009 15:20

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 752203)
Isn't Life strange? (both the life we live in the real world and this twisted moron), whenever you or indeed anyone else puts forward something he either can't answer or it makes so much sense he always says don't read this thread.

Well life, rather than her not reading it how about, if you're losing your silly battle go elsewhere to post, most of us feel very sorry for you and our own little, theorist who now after all this desperate time thinking she had a friend she could believe in is now showing doubts in your exclusive worldly wise information, good for you Margaret there is hope that you can join the rest of us back in reality after all.

Reality is not what you think it is:D
We have different versions - mine happens to be more optimistic than his(Life), but I still believe that a lot of what he says is true - just that I am not afraid of what is happening.
Get ready for a bumpy life ride beginning early Nov, but after 1 year-
everything will be great

Less 10-10-2009 15:28

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 752208)
Get ready for a bumpy life ride beginning early Nov, but after 1 year-
everything will be great

But only for the chosen few.

None of us are good enough not to be culled according to life, and let's be honest, who would want to survive in his potential 'world'?

So what's different?

MargaretR 10-10-2009 15:31

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The 'cull' will fail.
The attempt at starting WW3 will fail.

You think I am just a prophetic fruitcake don't you

Life 10-10-2009 15:39

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Hi All.

Jay I am apt to seeing things a little different than you it is true....but I doubt very much your mother Christened you Jaysay.

Less, I think from you less is definitely more....

Margaret can you explain yourself a little there not sure I know to whom you are speaking.

Fear is only an energy, it is what everyone gets from time to time.
The question is; how does it make you react?
Do you run or stand.

November 6th 2009 according to the Maya calender we enter the sixth night.

MargaretR 10-10-2009 15:42

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:enough:
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Originally Posted by Life (Post 752217)
Hi All.

Jay I am apt to seeing things a little different than you it is true....but I doubt very much your mother Christened you Jaysay.

Less, I think from you less is definitely more....

Margaret can you explain yourself a little there not sure I know to whom you are speaking.

Fear is only an energy, it is what everyone gets from time to time.
The question is; how does it make you react?
Do you run or stand.

November 6th 2009 according to the Maya calender we enter the sixth night.

You need less of Alex Jones (a shill) and more of David Wilcock.
I can Pm you a long list of recommended reading/viewing if you wish

PS - for Mayan calendar info - search for Ian X Lungold on Google video

Less 10-10-2009 15:44

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Originally Posted by Life (Post 752217)
Hi All.


Less, I think from you less is definitely more....

For such a self acclaimed 'free thinking moron', nothing new in that statement.

Someone with your vivid imagination should have shot me down in... well, perhaps a few years, I've actually had this battle of wits against people that have some.

Life 10-10-2009 15:44

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Hi All.

It will fail if you all get off your backside and say no and mean it.

Less 10-10-2009 15:48

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Originally Posted by Life (Post 752217)

November 6th 2009 according to the Maya calender we enter the sixth night.

I tell you what if by November the 7th we are all still here will you admit there might be a flaw in your thinking, or even better, just stop posting, that will leave us wondering, 'did he predict his own death'? Ooooerrr, freaky.

jaysay 10-10-2009 15:50

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 752208)
Reality is not what you think it is:D
We have different versions - mine happens to be more optimistic than his(Life), but I still believe that a lot of what he says is true - just that I am not afraid of what is happening.
Get ready for a bumpy life ride beginning early Nov, but after 1 year-
everything will be great

Margaret, he doesn't say anything, he merely quotes what others have said and post nonsensical links:rolleyes:


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