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has anyone tried them yet? i have had one for about a month now and haven't had a fag at all, i use the ones that you put the liquid in, the liquid i'm using has 0mg of nicotine in it, yes i know there's no point in that but as a social smoker i find it very handy when my mates are smoking and i fancy a fag

anyone else got one?

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yep shaz 3 months now neer had or wanted a fag since.:) in fact we went to Plymouth fer 5 days a few weeks since n forgot to take the damn thing, n honest it neer bothered me at all.:eek:

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We have both had one for 7 weeks now, and was bought off the recommendation of one of our 'senior' members. Works even better when you know that senior member recommends a product sponsoring Burnley FC :D

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I buy my clearomizers from vip in the arndale, 2 for a fiver, liquid off Blackburn Market £4 each or 3 for £10

my fella changes his clearomizer every 4 weeks because they start burning if you don't, i love mine, unfortunately/fortunately so does Reece

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By the way Cashy, there's a Totally Wicked re-seller opened on Henry St.

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What down Church? n if summats right dont matter Dingles or not i will say so.:D

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Yep.

My daughter mentioned it the other day and I just checked the TW website. Called Vapourzone

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Great stuff, cheers dave n daughter.:)

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My wife has a box full which she will not try, they were prescribed when she had a stay in Wythenshawe hospital.

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Dont think they are these mate am sure they are unavailable on prescription, they told me that at smokers clinic at accy vic.;) They will be them useless little white uns they prescribed me i think.

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good to see so many of you have given up the fags.......well, it has to be good for your health, and not so bad for your wallet.

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Was talking to somebody about that the other week and still not got my head round it :D

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Theres another 3 members i know of got em Margaret, but as they aint posted i aint saying who.:)

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Great stuff.......and robbing the chancellor(of Tobacco tax) too...that must make you all feel just a little bit smug.
It has to be win-win.

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Never even thought of that one but you're right I now feel smugger :)

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I never thought of that either, but i'm smug as hell now cheers Margaret.:)

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welcome Cashy...very welcome. I applaud you all!

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My partner used to be a 20-30 a day Pall Mall black or Marlboro Black-strong cigarettes and now has an e-cig and he hasn't smoked since July.

I only ever smoked 'socially' as in when I had an alcoholic drink in my hand!And had only done that for a few years-however I never actually wanted to give it up, I didn't see it as a problem because it wasn't costing me much (if any) money, and I wasn't addicted, never had one during the day or anything.

And then he bought me one for my birthday, and I decided I liked it. Now I don't ever smoke either. We have ones from TotallyWicked. The titan tank ones. I love them. Websites is very useful and the man who runs the shop we go to is lovely and really helpful.
Trouble is, now I've got one of these I actually use it much more often than I ever smoked tobacco. Ah well!

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Hahaha, and I'm one of them ;)

Had mine since Monday. Only helping a little at the moment, not keen on the taste and smoking regular cigarettes in between. Is helping a little though and will persevere.

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Thing I love most about 'vaping' instead of smoking is not having ashtrays and not smelling of smoke!

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Pop in the shop in Burnley Kate n tell em, theres different flavours n they are very helpful.;) I got same one as you sugermouse think its brill.

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Shop local :)

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The Cashman were the one to recomend one to me when we met in the pub about 1 1/2 months ago. I bought the same one that he had and also bought some Strawberry flavoured liquid to go in it.

I were doing very well and nearly gave up all fags but then we had a holiday approaching in Cyprus and as I am not a good flyer ended up buying some at Manchester Airport and standing in the smoking shed there till we took off, a beer in one hand and a "proper" fag in the other!

When we were in Cyprus even though I took the e-fag with me I didnt touch is all week as 20 fags were 2.5 euro's so ended up smoking them all week and coming back with 200!

I am now on both at the min, fags during the day and then at night at home I am smoking the efag so I am trying again.

I do find them very good and they do give you the same "hit" as a proper fag but at the min the only break I get from personal things is going outside for a fag and having 5mins to myself so dont think I will be giving the day fags up any time soon to keep my sanity! ;)

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Do you stock the stuff for totally wicked Dave?

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Does it say in the instructions that you can't smoke them outside? :rolleyes:

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Oi you, dont start.:thefinger

Mind over matter and the ways things are going if I wanna "proper" fag I will because it gives me more satisfation than a efag at the min :p

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im tempted to try one of these, i have given up twice in 2 years lasted 12 months then fell back in and for the last few weeks have been smoking again, doesnt help that mrs church still smokes

so think it might be worth a try!!!

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They do all the stuff you need at Bluntzilla next door to the hope and anchor, i got my strawberry and menthol mix off them and have been in today and got a chocolate, they let you try all the different flavours they do too...which helps a lot when you're not sure which to buy

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flashy, you've gone without a cigarette and your e cig doesn't even have nicotine in it?
Just shows how much of it is habit as well as addiction.
Must try these, life is difficult these days when you're one of the Great Unclean. Anyway I can use the money and need the extra oxygen!

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It is habit Gordon, i would say i only used to smoke about 5 a week anyway, i 'vape' because i like the taste, from that 5 a week it's gone to none a week

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I like the taste as well. I use menthol-but I do tend to vape constantly,even though when I smoked it was only a few a night-sometimes at work only one or two. I feel better though-which I didn't expect because I didn't smoke heavily anyway.
Just cleaner somehow!

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No but I did post further up the thread about a shop opening locally that does sell it.

Don't know what it is but I have this bee in my bonnet about people using local shops if possible. Maybe I'm just a sentimental old fool :D

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if you look up the forum on their webiste under offers or on twitter theres a daily code that gets between 11 - 20 % off purchases .The friday code is used for saturday as well.resellers dont do these dicounts and are more expensive than buying direct

totally wicked also deliver stuff ordered by phone at least as i have had emergency supplies sent out when i havnt been able to get to blackburn

i mix my own liquid its a lot cheaper and have been ciggy free for 9 months maybe more but i still have nicotine in mine but reducing it gradually

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also isnt it great been able to smoke in the cinema again and the pub and theres fcuk all they can do to stop ya hahahahaha

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The shop is opposite the Broadway pub £3-00 a bottle and loads to choose from.

Been on them myself for quite some time now.:)

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I've already mentioned that one Pete, its called Bluntzilla, next to the hope and anchor, they are very helpful in there, i got a chocolate liquid and a strawberry/menthol liquid from them

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You were the first person , accyman , I saw using an E-Cig . And thanks for letting me know about them .

After 50 years of smoking cigarettes I haven't had a fag since three months today . I bought an E-Cig at Bluntzilla and actually enjoy it more than cigarettes which I haven't missed one little bit .

I have noticed that there are plenty of places now where they are being sold . I am a little wary of the contents of the fluid being sold by some of them though . I bought a bottle from a local shop and there is nothing on the bottle other than the name of the flavour . The box it's in gives no name of any manufacturer .

What I bought from Bluntzilla has been fine , but I have decided to use Vapour Zone on Henry St which has already been mentioned on this thread . They specialize in E-Cigs and the liquids .

I'm ok with the E-Cig , so am I being a bit paranoid and does anyone know of someone who has had health problems with these new gadgets ?

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If you want to know what is in them look here -

E-cigarette - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The main ingredient is also in antifreeze and de-icers.

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I'll go for recipe 1-less chemicals, more nicotine. And this time of year I need antifreeze.
The prices are ridiculous, though( E cigs in particular)- are there other makes less expensive?

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PS - a bit more webrowsing reveals that manufacturers differ in what they use.
So it may well be wise to avoid using any 'made in China'

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Diethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Polyethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I get headaches from mine when the battery runs low-because I kind of inhale too hard, when it isn't giving me the usual sensation. But I've tried to solve that by never letting it run low!
Ingredients are listed on the website where mine's from and the shop assistant talked me through it before I began using it.

The one I have I checked-they're £45 for two batteries, a filter, spare liquid holders, e-liquid and a battery charger (plug and USB). I've not looked at any other brands so not sure how they compare, although I know my partner is always on the website as they have sales often-he probably bought mind on discount.

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Sounds like swapping one addiction for another. :)

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Thanks for the info Margaret and sugarmouse .

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It's the SAME addiction even lol just a different method!
I do feel better for not smoking, though. I didn't expect to notice a difference (because I didn't smoke much compared to most smokers) but I did.

I hate the scent of smoke too, so I'm happier now I don't have that.

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The people I know that have them don't use them for long before they are back on the real thing

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Ah my old friend polyethylene glycol, the water soluble wax... takes me back!

Thirty years ago when I worked as an archaeological conservator on the Mary Rose in Portsmouth, we used PEG to preserve wood and leather items by soaking them in a PEG solution and then freeze drying them to remove the water. Later a similar technique was use to preserve the hull of the ship.

Mary Rose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some months ago I had to have a colonoscoy, preparation for which involves washing out the intestine with a laxative. I was presented with several litres of liquid to drink, the chief ingredient of which was listed as Macrogol. Imagine my surprise when this turned out to be - polyethyene glycol!

Whole bowel irrigation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A very versatile substance, I think you'll agree.

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Cashy and Accyman are still using um and they've both been on them for quite a while, accyman was using his while round at my place last week, I had no problems with it what so ever, I'm all for them.

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You used one?

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been using mine since October (ish), not had any problems with it

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No Rob, no need too I haven't smoked for 35 years, what I'm saying is the "smoke" these things give of had no effect on my chest what so ever whereas cigarette smoke would have me coughing and spluttering all over the place, but wouldn't have been aloud in my gaff in the first place

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Perhaps thats cos they bought a cheap version? Which is crap as i discovered, The one i have cost £60 n am still using it all these months on, So paid fer it self in less than a fortnight.;)Theres quite a few cheap versions about which cost £20 or so I have tried a couple, plus listened to people that have used others n don't rate em at all, its what works fer the individual, Can't afford a dear un is no excuse, cos of what fags cost these days,

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I've never tried a different one but I agree because of what people have told me-they're definitely not something you should skimp on-particularly as they save so much money in the long-run.

(Unless you're me, who when she first got hers, lost about three of them on the trot and kept having to get new ones )....:rolleyes:

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I was in our local papershop yesterday and the chap in front of me spent £72 on cigarettes.....I was horrified to see how little he got for his money.....would guess it was his supply for the week.
I'm so glad it is a habit I never took to.

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Agree Margaret, I'm glad I never got hooked. Smoked one ciggy when I was 15 ,coughed that much and said never again.To this day I have not tried another

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I never even had a puff of a cigarette......though I was coaxed to try them, I didn't like the smell of them.

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that combined with the fact that I never did anything because 'everyone else was doing it'.........I always wanted to be different...or, as my mother would say,'perverse'.(though not in respect of cigarettes - I think she was quite glad I never took up the habit. It meant I always had some of my 'spends' left when there was more week left than money)

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Go on, go on,bask in it, rub it in.
There's only one thing worse than a non smoker- that's an ex-smoker.

If we didn't pay all that tax they'd have to shut the NHS down, overall we don't cost it- we pay for it. And we die younger so take less pension, occupy care homes less etc.
Smoking should be compulsory- it would help resolve the 'ageing population problem'.

After all that, don't tell anyone but we've been looking up e cigs( the better ones as cashman suggested)- dear but as he says you soon get your money back. If they work we won't need the NHS so you won't need our taxes.

We'll see.

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They'll find something else to tax us on

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I've seen the EU have been anticipating a 'ban' on them. I do wonder if It's related to the fact that cigarettes have such a correspondence to economy :/

I hate the smell too-and weirdly I did even when I did smoke tobacco. Especially stale ashtrays-not so bad if I'm around smokers when they're smoking, It's when they've been left to fester a while that makes me feel sick.

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Well, it was inevitable- more EU interference, UK falls in line.
From 2016 e cigs will have to be licensed as A MEDICINE?? BBC internet news. Unbelievable!
They should still be available, not clear how easily, but with regulation, safety checks etc the cost is bound to go up even if the firms don't go bust.
They just can't leave us alone, can they?
Still, if they're medicines those who qualify should be able to get them free on prescription, shouldn't they?

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I'll stick to me fags, less persecution and what the hey, it must be good for you or else MargaretR wouldn't smoke, would she?

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All part of her recipe for stress free living, Less.
Although I would have thought anyone who can't handle tree pollen, gas central heating or air fresheners would have problems with Golden Virginia. Better to be smoking a laxative/antifreeze, I would have thought.

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Yes at last, you remember a tale something like, a monkey on your back and the only way to remove it is to fool someone to volunteer carrying it for you?
Well allow me to introduce you to your monkey, mags, oh, mags, Gordon is ready for you now anytime you want, shout at him in future!
;)

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Now, Less, you know you enjoy being a monkey!
Anyway, try as I might I doubt if I could out- monkey you. Also you know MargaretR would miss you.

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I refer you to post four in this thread...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ted-64370.html

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Precisely, susie. All we smokers know what damage we are doing to ourselves so there's no point in complaining.

Back to thread- I'm trying an e cig( a good one as cashman recommended) and it does help but I haven't got anywhere near a full switch over yet.

Perhaps bringing a load of cheap cigarettes and tobacco back from Ibiza in May wasn't a good idea!

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There's always the dustbin for the stash you brought back from Ibiza Gordon:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

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Wash your mouth out! Dustbin all that lovely, addictive, foul smelling dried weed!
Would you throw rolls of fivers in the bin- goes against my careful nature.
Anyway, after 50 years I reckon it's too late to worry about the harm my little stash might do me. It'll soon be gone. Then I can concentrate on the e cig.
Trouble is, we'll be off on holiday again by then!

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Leave jay alone, he's an ex smoker, he even after all these years remembers what year and day he took his last fag!
Deny it as he might, he's still an addict to the weed, just like a heroin addict, none of us are ever cured no matter how long since the last fix.

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so with the only speciific drug in them been nicotine are they now saying nicotine is a medicine and if so what does it cure.

a lot of people mix tehir own liquid some with no nicotine in at all so the only ingredients would be vegetable glycirine and proplene glycol which are both food additives and can be found in the food section at asda for example

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Well your right and wrong Less, right in saying I know the date I stopped, wrong in saying I'm still addicted, never used to bother me when smoking was allowed in pubs, it was just a nuisance wafting passed my nose:)

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Is this a cross over? Challenging the assumptions from the "Who owns what?" thread? :rolleyes:

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I'm sure flashy said hers were zero nicotine but she still stopped cigs( although she wasn't a heavy smoker). So in her case which bit is the medicine?

You've got me there, DinG-elaborate please. It's all this carbon monoxide in my blood, stops me thinking(or perhaps it's senility).

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Just that the "Who owns what" thread wandered into the realms of GCHQ, listening in, reading peoples mails & comments on websites, picking up "Key words" then paying more attention to the individual making said comments.

So when someone reads "All that lovely, addictive, foul smelling dried weed!" eyebrows may be raised & someone'll be knocking on your door to ask a few questions Gordon. :)

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Got-cha. As long as they don't try to 'cadge a fag' off me I'll welcome them in.

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I am going to guess it won't be the machines themselves that will be licensed but the nicotine containing juice. If you want to mix your own no one will be able to stop you.

It does sound sensible though that whatever it is your inhaling has been tested and proven to be safe in the same way as other nicotine replacement gums and patches.

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Think you've got that one right Neil, to do otherwise would be like me saying, there's another drug to treat asthma which hasn't been tested but its cheaper than those that have, always better to be safe than sorry

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I like a ciggie myself but my daughter is a smoking cessation advisor and she would rather I had a cigarette than an E Cig,. Apparently, one of the components of the liquid in them is formaldehyde (embalming fluid). She says more research needs to be done before they are released on the general public and that they are banned in some countries already.

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I have had n E-Cig fer 9/10 months now,after smoking heavy fer oer 50 yrs, everyone says i look miles better, n also lost me cough, But the "Only" reason i gave up is economic not health, otherwise i would still be on fags, Missus also tells me, i have lost me vile smell n breath, summat i'd obviously never noticed, so i'll stick as i am.:)

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What's the saving to you Cashy between fags and using E-cigs

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About £40 a week.:eek: Wi Fags not bacca,

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lol i did say some have no nicotine.I have a batch of strawberry with zero nicotine in and a seperate bach of tobbacco flavour with a tiny bit of nicotine

basically two things have happened here

1: nicorette have been kicking up a right fuss because they are loosing money hand over fist to e-cigs.Rather than compete they have pestered government and have also started visous lies that e-cigs are dangerous and you dont know whats in them via information they pass on to smoking cessation who promote the hell out of nicorette products

2: just as when diesil was half teh price of petrol government have seen that theres a lot of money been spent on a product and have decided to tax the hell out of it.People switched to diesil cars because fuel was cheaper and you got more miles to teh gallon.This was good because government wanted people to use less fossil fuels for this enviroment bull they were spewing but as soon as the public do as asked government punished them for it.

while i on this matter have you noticed that when all these so called energy saving things came out like those not so light light bulbs and companies made their electronics more energy friendly british gas and others bumped up the cost of electricity and gas ?

the public use less so british gas were taking a hit so charged double for what was been used just like whats happened with diesil

country run by crooks who devise ways of making each other money

soap box away for a bit lol

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Hold the conspiracy theory view myself, (40 year smoker and 9 months free thanks to the e-cig), which is upsetting quite a few in big business with powerful lobbyists.

Up in Smoke: Distrust of E-cigarettes Cement Big Pharma?s Monopoly | Economy Watch

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Ya there will be some very big noses being put out of joint by E-cigs, Guinness, could end up like a deck of cards

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Don't disagree, personally though i reckon by the time they stuff us proper, i will have stopped anyway. only have a couple of mins tooting a day now.

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The best thing will be that your health will improve too Cashy, that's the biggest plus

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It already has mate.;)

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Loss of sales by tobacco companies, NRT companies, pharmaceutical companies but most important loss of tax! Major money losses.
How long before some wizz kid in the Treasury says' We only taxed taxed tobacco because it had nicotine in it and was totally addictive so we got lots of money.So does e liquid so we should tax that similarly. That gives us a win/win situation!'

'Infamy. Infamy! They've all got it in for me'.

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I've not been tempted off the weed yet, haven't wanted to buy into the efag society, but the results for friends so far have been miraculous.
30 or 40 years a smoker and they have almost quit over night.
IF there are harmful products in the ingredients surely six months worth of them to end up quitting should be encouraged? It can't be any worse.

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I considered getting one but was put off by what is in the liquid - it does seem to vary between brands. There are likely as many unscrupulous rogues in that industry as there are in pharmacuticals so I have stayed with my hand rolling, adding herbs.

After 55 years puffing away like a trooper I am almost weaned off them, (though it took the forest of birch trees to finally convince me). :D

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Sometimes mags you come across as over cautious, I bet you won't buy beef from a butchers unless you've seen a written log from the farmer showing what make of toilet roll he used to wipe the cows arse!
:)

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I've not stopped the weed altogether but I'm getting there.

We use those little plastic filters for our cigs. They soon clog up after 10 to 15 ordinary cigs but home rolled- 5 or 6 and they're disgusting. When you see all that black goo you wonder(no, you know) what your lungs are like.

Whatever is in e cigs it can't be as bad as that!

Even worse, don't you smoke Golden Virginia, MargaretR? That really is strong stuff, it's like inhaling iron filings and you should see the little filters after 3 or 4 of those!

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Remember "cool as a mountain stream" ads -
Menthol cigs are now banned by the EU
EU Agrees Ban on Menthol Cigarettes - Guy Fawkes' blog

If you like them there is nothing to stop you from buying menthol crystals from a chemist and dipping the lit end of a fag in them (knew someone who did just that)

PS I only eat organic beef - I keep big eared Charlie in profit:( - Duchy Originals

I have a cigarette holder and use pipe cleaners on it, also roll up using filters.

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My sentiments exactly Gordon, Thing i found wi E-Cigs is different quality, i tried one which i found no use, but the one i paid more for i find great, brings home to me= yeh get what yeh pay fer.;)

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Well Gordon I'll probably try it but I'll probably wait until the government slap a tax on it, then buy from the smugglers, I believe contraband baccy is really cheap, no doubt soon gallons of this stuff will be brought across the channel to satisfy the needs of those wanting to stop.

Ooh, hang on, If they smuggle it in will they make it addictive?
They'd be worse than HM Customs for not wanting us to stop.

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In case you didn't know - menthol is derived from mint
What Is The Use Of Menthol? | LIVESTRONG.COM

"Typically derived from the herbs peppermint, eucalyptus and pennyroyal, menthol is a compound made from herbal volatile oils that has many potential health benefits. Applied topically or taken orally, menthol has been shown to help treat gastrointestinal problems, pain, inflammation and congestion. Consult your health care provider before using menthol on your skin or taking it internally to treat any medical condition."

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You should try them, Less. Even in Spain cigarettes are 4.5 euros.
Like cashman says, if you try, spend a bit extra on a good one. We tried the Ecig brand you can buy at supermarkets, looks like an ordinary cig, you can burst a lung trying to get a satisfying 'drag' and they taste foul. My wife gave up trying.
Don't know what cashman uses but I sent up for a JacVapour- draw hard and it looks looks like a tear gas grenade going off and the liquid is OK and very effective. £5 bottle lasts a week and I'm hammering it!

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How many times a day do you fill it up with liquid Gordon?