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lancsdave 01-12-2007 13:57

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What was the Baxenden Project ?

blazey 01-12-2007 13:58

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Originally Posted by Chelmswood (Post 499386)
The Chelmswood Estate and the Chelmswood Estate trust are two different bodies, the estate alone was inherited by the King wilkinson family however the estate trust are the body responsible for its upkeep and are completely charitably funded.

The King wilkinson family makes no profit from the chelmswood estate.

So do the king-wilkinson family have involvement with the trust? Are they the ones who founded it?

blazey 01-12-2007 13:59

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 499387)
What was the Baxenden Project ?

Thats the project about Hameldon Hill I believe?

Chelmswood 01-12-2007 13:59

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 499387)
What was the Baxenden Project ?

We had been asked by a resident of Rising bridge who volunteers for the estate to find out about the area to the rear of the coppice and the land ajacent to the bypass. The estate suggested as a means for stopping the illegal activity occuring, procuring the land via adverse possesion and re-generating it to its former natural beuty.

Then opening it up to public access.

MargaretR 01-12-2007 14:04

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Quote "The King wilkinson family makes no profit from the chelmswood estate"

.........at the moment.......
nothing to prevent future change of policy?
Land gained by establishing squatters rights which may or may not be handed to local councils does seem a rather devious form of land grabbing

lancsdave 01-12-2007 14:05

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Originally Posted by Chelmswood (Post 499391)
We had been asked by a resident of Rising bridge who volunteers for the estate to find out about the area to the rear of the coppice and the land ajacent to the bypass. The estate suggested as a means for stopping the illegal activity occuring, procuring the land via adverse possesion and re-generating it to its former natural beuty.

Then opening it up to public access.

Hopefully one of the long term locals can enlightne me as to what was done there.

Does this mean you already own land behind the Coppice ?

Chelmswood 01-12-2007 14:06

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 499395)
Quote "The King wilkinson family makes no profit from the chelmswood estate"

.........at the moment.......
nothing to prevent future change of policy?
Land gained by establishing squatters rights which may or may not be handed to local councils does seem a rather devious form of land grabbing

A charter ruled in 2001 that land associated with the Chelmswood Estate, yet owned by the Chelmswood Estate trust could under no circumstances be used for any profiteering activity other than to fund its own re-development or repair.

Chelmswood 01-12-2007 14:07

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No we dont own it, we have not begun the claim process as of yet and even then we wont own it, it will be given to the coucil and registered as common land.

blazey 01-12-2007 14:11

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It doesn't say it will be handed back to the council, it says it would be accessable to the public. Therefore it would still be their property anyway. The only thing they are doing is taking ownership of land, regenerating it and allowing the public fresh access to bettered land.

lancsdave 01-12-2007 14:12

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Originally Posted by Chelmswood (Post 499398)
No we dont own it, we have not begun the claim process as of yet and even then we wont own it, it will be given to the coucil and registered as common land.


Looks like I'm confused :)

I assumed because you said you were in charge of the Baxenden Project that this was something you had completed in the past. So is the Baxenden project what Blazey said it was and refers to the Hameldon Hill project ? :confused:

Chelmswood 01-12-2007 14:14

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 499401)
It doesn't say it will be handed back to the council, it says it would be accessable to the public. Therefore it would still be their property anyway. The only thing they are doing is taking ownership of land, regenerating it and allowing the public fresh access to bettered land.

Just for your information there are numerous articles in the Accrington observer about people using the land for sexual meetings, drug abuse amongst other illegal activities.

Chelmswood 01-12-2007 14:15

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 499402)
Looks like I'm confused :)

I assumed because you said you were in charge of the Baxenden Project that this was something you had completed in the past. So is the Baxenden project what Blazey said it was and refers to the Hameldon Hill project ? :confused:

Yes, however there is now a qualified project manager in charge of overseeing the claim

lancsdave 01-12-2007 14:15

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Originally Posted by Chelmswood (Post 499403)
Just for your information there are numerous articles in the Accrington observer about people using the land for sexual meetings, drug abuse amongst other illegal activities.

Blimey you'll need to take control of most British towns on that basis :D

Chelmswood 01-12-2007 14:17

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 499407)
Blimey you'll need to take control of most British towns on that basis :D

HaHa, the site was only considered because of its history and the location of ancient settlements surrounding the area.

MargaretR 01-12-2007 14:19

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So it is worth grabbing then?
You told us that the council could go through the same 'squatters rights' procedures.


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