Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

right infront of me. they werent even stopping when their own fans were infront of them. i saw at least 10 fans gettin hit with the bottles from their own fans.

i was workin about 50 yds from the said fanzone and we were lucky to get to a safe zone in the bar i was workin at.

i hope they get identified and charged from images.

such a shame as the whole day was goin fantastic. i though damn these boys are well behaved...

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YouTube - Rangers fans riot at UEFA Cup Final 2008 in Manchester

go to 31 seconds and u can clearly see a rangers fan knocking out another rangers fan...

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this was part of the footage i managed to get...

YouTube - Manchester riots upclose!!! rangers vs zenit

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Mani, the second one appears to show a fan go down while standing amongst policemen, I heard a lot on the radio saying the police were bad, maybe you can clarify this for us.

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this is not football, one thing i can say they will find them mybe not today
I was watching crimefighter on man am morters last night and it ad millwall fans riating big time one of the police spoters said it was a case they ware fiteing for the lifes they got them all in a year that is what they have to do for football and the peaple of manchester
ps i have found memers of rangers and i think that most of them are welcome to the north west but them that just come to couuse truble i say

STAY AWAY

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they deserved everything they got from the police last night if they were chucking bottles etc at them they why shouldnt the police do that and stuff they deserve it for chucking stuff at them. good on the police

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I can't believe there was only one screen serving so many people. Have they never heard of "single point of failure!"

It was wrong to riot and even more so to cause injury/damage but be honest, the police had let them get bladdered all afternoon and then were surprised when they all kicked off.

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You would think our police force would have better things to do than force feed those poor Rangers fans with beer all day. Fancy travelling all that way and not having a personal choice wether to get blind drunk or not :rolleyes:

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Is there no tv's in Jockland?????????????? Fancy spending a fortune to go to a city for a match when u haven't got a ticket for the game - mindless & definately more money than sence:rolleyes:

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I think that the police did a wonderful job controlling the violent yob minority.

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I said as much this morning when I saw the scenes from last night, they were showing the game on a big screen at Ibrox, surely it would've made more sense to watch it there.

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They just wanted one last invasion before they get independance.
After that we can rebuild Hadrian's wall :rolleyes:

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I've been a football fan all my life, but would never have dreamt of going to a match without a ticket especially when its on the telly anyway, I used to travel all over the country in the sixties and seventies watching the Rovers, but always went with the suporters club and we were guaranteed a ticket to the stands if we wanted one, there were no tickets for the ground in those days, it was all pay o the day.

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entwisi - there wasnt just one screen!! there was 5/6big screens set up all across the city!!

there was three inc this one in the city centre - i heard old trafford had one and there was two in the velodrome to which ppl were being advised to go to on the free buses which were running all day long

i started at 10am and people were wasted then.

the kick off should've been on a weekend and had a 3o clock kick off rather than the 730 kick off - that was too many hrs of drinking b4 hand

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:eek: On the tele it said they were charging £35 for a case of 24 cans of beer ,,at first i thought it was disgusting,but now i have changed my mind ,it obviously wasent enough ,, shish:alc::drunk::beer58:

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i see the good old police did a good job of looking after the fellow that got ko'd....fantastic lads !!!

granted the huns shouldnt have thrown bottles etc, but when the police wade in batons flaring what do they expect the fans to do, stand there and get clobbered ??....nah...id do exactly the same and give them what for, at the end of the day its assault !!!.....

:stop::boxing_sm:drunk:

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not-condoning the behaviour, but it dont take a genius to know, if ya get a large group of people, supply em wi alcohol, n then deprive em of what they had gone to see, a small minority of em are gonna kick-off, its that simple, makes me wonder, was the equipment tested pre- match?:confused: this would have happened anywhere given those circs, n not just at a football match, can envisage the same thing happening at other venues, its not rocket science.:rolleyes:

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BR - they only came in after the bottle throwin had started

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given I was there - ticketless I can say that I did not see any violence till I got up today and switched the news on, and I am thoroughly embaressed and sickened about it all 100%, and to the poster who said there was 5/6 screens - not the case - 2 in albert square, 1 in picadilly gardens and 1 for the russian fans the other side of the city - 3 for rangers in total (were were the others?) - I was in albert square where there was 2 screens which worked fine, we did mention to other fans that putting 10,000 folk in a 'cage' giving them beer from early doors and letting them wait 9 hours for a footie match is a recipe for disaster and we said this at 2pm that day...and it turns out I was correct..even the police where we were we great, having a laugh, taking pics for folk etc...all good natured which is why I couldnt believe what went on after watching the news this morning..
and to the other poster who said that they wouldnt travel to a game without a ticket - IF your little team ever get to a european final (yeah right - got to win something first!) and its in your home land I bet my last £1 you would go sample the atmosphere etc...I have been all over the world following rangers and there was no way I wouldnt have went to manchester given its just down the road from me..
and the beer prices were such a rip off - being charged by the can when buying a case (£27!!!!) is wrong, I refused to do it and bought 4 packs instead - the guy infront of me paid £34 for a case of wickeds !!!
everybody was out to rip off the fans and fair play to them given it was a demand and supply thing everyone paid the prices...I hope the shops were happy with their takings...
I am curious to see what replys come from this..

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i know that, but, would you just stand there whilst somebody beat the sh17 out of you ?.i know i wouldnt mate..all im saying is you cant blame the huns for fighting back !!!...

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why do you use the word 'huns' ? - maybe you can explain in detail to the other users why you do? as most wont understand why...

and it wasnt 10,000 fans - it was 140,000 - out of which ? 250 acted like mindless thugs with no care to people or possessions..a small minority of which the mass were well behaved - which has been documented.

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Was the day a bank holiday ? if not, why wern't all these people at work ? :confused:

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no it want a bank holiday and they werent at work cos they were in manchester ! - and to answer it correctly I presume most booked the day off work..

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but then it was ok to start throwing the bottles? what reaction wud u expect from the police if a large group had begun to throw bottles

glasgow - there was 2 screens at the velodrome the biking arena next to the man city stadium. they were advised to head to there on the free buses and a screen so i heard at old trafford too.

and na course u gotta go to the final if ur team is in it and its the first time in 30+ yrs. i dont blame them for coming down.

i just seen myself on the bbc news behind the closed doors of the weatherspoons

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that was quickly opened when it was realised that the broken screen wouldnt get fixed - they moved 11,000 fans in 20 mins...and the old trafford screen never happened.

amd I am not saying its ok to throw bottles - far from it but like I have mentioned elsewhere - you will always get the minority try to and successfully cause trouble..and like I mentioned in same thread - the police wont think about whos attacking them and whos not in that situation - so if you do get caught up in it then thats genuine bad luck to the normal footy fan...

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I laugh at people suggesting that the police shouldn't have let people drink so early - you thinking trying to stop 100,000 scots drinking on the day they're team is in the final of europe wouldn't have caused more trouble than we saw ?

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that unfortunately is an un-policable situation - you cant tell someone how much they are allowed to drink and sadly some people dont know when to stop - and please dont make out its only scottish fans who like a drink... I think they were wrong to lift the drinks ban fro drinking in the street - it would have then been contained to various pubs etc and also allowing drink into the fan zones was wrong also...a cage, 13,000 people, 8 hours of time and more alchohol than you can imagine = disaster , as I stated to my friend. surely the police could have seen that one..

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Bugs me this. If this occurred for any other reason than a football game, it would cause uproar.

Instead, we make allowances becuase it was a big game and people had been drinking. Oh and the tv broke, so it justifies their actions???

Best watch out for me if my telly packs up whilst the Apprentice is on. I know what I can get away with now

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are you saying it hasnt caused an uproar?

who is making allowances?

and who is justifying their actions ?

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Any excuse to do their bit against the English.These have never got over Willy Wallace & all that centuries ago history.I know,my knucklehead relatives still go on about it.Did'nt stop them moving down here though to try & better themselves.And ,on a football point of view.If the Glasgow big two ever want to play against some quality teams south of the wall on a full time basis,last nights show of strength wont help.

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don't see anyone making allowances or justifying the actions in this thread - go watch the Apprentice.:p

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I know your trying to stir here but I will reply anyway...

nothing to do with 'the english' william wallace or scots moving south ot the border????..
and no one even mentioned the glasgow 2 plying their football in england???...
try and keep to the subject of the thread eh - if you can manage it? or does acting stupid come naturally to you ?

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I would have been better watching the apprentice:o:D

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sorry, didnt mean to imply anyone on here was condoning this or anything like that.

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i know some so-called rangers supporters were a disgrace yesterday but there was an undercurrent as there was known football hooligans spotted ie cockney brummies and mancs.the gmp police panicked and knew they were there ,theres even a rumour going about they pulled the plug because they didnt have the resources and knew it was going to kick off big time definately know there was spurs ,,chelsea, wolves,man utd football casuals there for a rumble...so before you criticise and generalise all rangers supporters get your facts straight.everthing went fine an all the rest of the fanzones even if there was a shortage of food outlets ie none and hardly any crowd control or tiolets but it was still a party..got back this morning...:mosher:dissappionting result but a party...

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why do rangers fans call celtic fans "tim"?

as in the if u cannae do the bouncy ur a tim song?

and why the bouncy?

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its what the celts call us, its all sectarian bulldung, when i chear rangers i always say " mon the huns " as do the scottish friends i drink with, which is where i have prob picked up the term, and not nesecerily (sp) the real religious reasononing behind it...sorry if it offended you, even though i am a hun myself although not scottish :o

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if you sat in ibrox and shouted .'mon the huns' you wouldnt last long at all..(trust me) as the use of that word is only used by celtic fans as you say, I am not offended by it as I have heard over the last 30 years supporting rangers - was just curious as to why it was used down here..

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what a question..:D - the term 'tim' is just slang for what some rangers fans call celtic fans, although they are also called yahoos by the majority of rangers fans (you have to read gullivers travels to understand why) the same way some celtic fans call us huns amongst other things- as blackburn raver has mentioned.
and in regards to the bouncy - well why not? its about all you can do in a stadium these days without getting thrown out and it looks quite good when everyone does it..
YouTube - Full Stadium Bouncy

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Lmao .... classic!!!

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thats actually quite funny...

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no wonder they were throwing bottles.no but seriously when you watch the videos of all the violence most of them are not wearing any colours ive just heard hearts casuals were there with chelsea,of all people wigan,wolves and man city hooligans with a small band of rangers casuals the icf ...if you look at all the people in the videos there are no more than 200 so 10,000 rangers supporters you are a disgrace ,is slander . there was about 600 or so real rangers supporters having a sing song at midnight when a crowd of casuals ran past telling everybody to run in cockney accents.behold about 15 seconds after that the riot police came storming down clubbing everyboy women and men you had to run for your life.....ohh iforgot to add the indiscriminate pushing around with riot shields at the train station fact is the gmp lost control and lost control of its officers...

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as a scott myself i would like to point out that not all scottish people are mindless alcholics


some are cocaine addicts too :)

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Ahhhhhhh bless how cute :D:D:D

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on another forum they said tim was a common name back in the days tim malloy

and gers fans are called billy after that braveheart guy?

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get a grip lad and stop reading poxy hooligan forums then posting the crap on here !!!!.......chinese whispers !!!

:hehetable

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you get a grip ,i was there in the middle of it its not fun just havin a sing song when about 300 police in riot gear come running down a hill randomly hitting everybody in sight.in the aftermath i spoke to some of them and they said they knew that there was going to be hooligan elements from other clubs there thats why they were heavy handed.ps this was about 6 oclock in the morning next day when the police were taking group photographs of each other in their riot gear..i havent read any proxy hooligan forum i was there were you?

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Oh come on Stanley:D The police wouldn't do that, would they:eek:

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why on earth would i be there ?

first of all im english secondly im a blackburn rovers fan, why on earth would i goto manc to watch the sweaty socks get their knickers in a twist...:confused::confused:...

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These were a couple of pictures my son, who works in the centre, took of the aftermath :D Was to be expected though I suppose :-

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if they put some skips about the place to put rubbish in it woulldnt been half as bad or even had enough toilets 24 toilets to 14,000/20,000..anyway olympics for manchester they are havin a laugh they couldnt organise a pee up in a brewery...get your facts right before yous start spewing poo .11 people charged out of 200,000 ...

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and heres the proof a so called terrified student following the no colours and english accents chasing the police through manchester.listen to manc accent saying tip it... www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1166626.ece

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ahhhh, so all the pictures of a few hundred people going on the rampage in blue shirts were merely figments of everyones imagination were they?

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the first pic you have supplied is that of one of the fan zones - which that particular one held 10,000 fans - all caged in with no bins and no toilets (who's great idea was that?) - any fan in the cage/fan zone that needed the toilet had to walk their way through the 10,000 fans - only to be met by 24 port a loos 10 minutes down the street, now when you went into the fan zone you were not allowed to take bottles so 99% of people had cans and food all carried in plastic bags, now whenever some food and drink were finished and you looked about for a bin and you realise there wasnt any what were you to do? stick it in your pocket till you got home? or put it in your plastic bag and place it at your feet? which is what we done.. now obviously not everyone done this and the first pic is the end result of 10,000 people in a cage with no bins..

the second picture is that of a street with obviously more rubbish strewn about, and given that there were bins there people either didnt use them and/or the bins were full - which I saw alot of.

there are alot of questions and answers to be taken from all of this, mine would be :
why wasnt there any toilets in the fan zones?
why wasnt there any bins in the fan zones ?
why only have 3 fan zones that could hold a total of 35,000 fans?when they knew that the amount travelling would be closer to 150,000
why not open the velodrome for a fan zone?- far bigger alround
why lift the drinks ban for street drinking?
why let fans take drink into the fan zones?

and it has also been mentioned today that GMP knew the screen wouldnt be getting switched on incase picadilly gardens got trashed if rangers got beat - the decision not to switch it on was made at 2pm, now why wait till kick off to tell the fans this?
this information has came from both strathclyde police who were also on duty there in manchester and also a steward who was on duty at picadilly gardens - this is how they managed to bus 99% of the fans to the quickly opened velodrome inside 15 mins - they had the buses waiting because they knew the screen wouldnt be going on.

at the end of the day this could rumble on for ages and ages but the truth of the matter is some so called rangers fans acted like scum in attacking police, cars etc, the vast majority of the 150,000 fans behaved fine and were in good spirits ( which has been overshadowed by the thugs ) and that manchester itself was nowhere near prepared for that game nor the amount of fans.

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thats not what he is saying but believe it or not some people/casuals/firms do wear whichever teams colours when they plan on doing some damage during a game, so they can blend in easier, I am not saying that is what happened - not at all - just saying that it does happen and may have.

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cos it would be the closest you would get to a euro final given rovers wont ever be there..:D - have you ever made the group stages of europe before ? and the inter toto cup doesnt count..

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Oh ..... so you expect Manchester to provide beds for them as well now ??

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Sorry - I'll get my coat :o

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dont joke about it, given the amount of fans I met/saw that had no where to stay a skip may have looked appealing:eek:...crazy to go there and not have digs sorted...I had guys asking me where I was staying and then offering me cash to sleep on my floor..

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Blimey!!! If it wasn't for the safety aspect, ya could have made some good dosh out of that GG

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Sorry GG .. wasn't particularly being critical about the rubbish .. no matter how many bins or toilets the Council would had provided, with ale in their guts, and the volume of so many fans (from wherever), it was going to have this result. Expect tomorrow will be just as bad after the 10km race (son doing that); except probably more water bottles and foil insulation wraps.. LOL. Anyway, here's another piccie' to show that they are sorting it out.

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Mani... just noticed the Weatherspoons on one of the photo's .. is that where you were ?

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The City of Manchester Stadium has a capacity of 48,000. Rangers were allocated approximately 13,000 seats. Why on earth did upwards of 150,000 Rangers fans turn up in Manchester on Wednesday night?

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there were at least 27,000 in the ground that night due them being in corporate seats, and in the russian end etc, and the reason 150,000 turned up was quite simple -
it was a euro final - 37 years since the last one,
it was local as in the north west of england therefore easy to get to,
they knew it would be shown on screens outside of the ground within fan zones set aside for ticketless fans,
and they have one of the largest and most loyal fanbases in the world - hence why 150,000 turned up.
plus most genuine fans wanted to sample the atmosphere and build up of a euro final..everyone wanted to be a part of it. myself included.

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Glasgow's 220 miles away from Manchester, hardly local.
I also live in Clayton. If Mrs. Glasgow guy had hidden your remote you could have given me a shout, got a few cans and come and watched it at my place.

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anyway i had a great day in the company of glasgow guy and his friends and then i got a call off my cousin who seen me walking to the train station and that was it non stop partying and sing til 5.30 in the morning.one of the best days/nights of my life..never seen any trouble till about 11 o clock when the riot cops came rumbling down ...even had a sing song with some zenit supporters who were brand new..whatever you do dont go to lounge 31 nightclub its full of drug dealers who try and sell you hard drugs and jumped up little tart wannabes trying to sell drugs as well...dont know why that place has a licence.the drug dealers runners were outside on their bikes..sureal or what..

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ohh and i didnt go in i was outside buying a pizza next door...

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we won the best lg in the world, we have played in the champions lg, we have been in the uefa cup !!!...as i say we play in THE best lg in the world and won it, not some second rate tin pot two teamed conferance lg !!! :alright:

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by local I meant the uk and your right its only 220 miles so only a few hours in the car/train or an hour on the plane...very easy to get to...and I doubt you would have wanted me at your place - unless you wanted to see a grown man cry !:D

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so how do you know it was FULL of drug dealers selling hard drugs !!!!

jeeeeeez you really do amaze me with your cock n bull storys...:hehetable

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when they come out asking if you want some charlie thats a bit of a hint,and lads about 15-16 hanging outside on their bikes .i done one when some started arguing big time with one didnt want to get caught in the cross-fire if you know what i mean...

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i dare you to go to manchester and ask the way to the lounge 31 and spend the night there...and then tell me your point of view...i remember going to watch rovers when bobby saxton was manager there was about 4,000 there singing saxton out.

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whats that to do with last weds night? there was no mayhem then,:rolleyes: yer gettin a bit silly now.

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The only thing I can say is thank god they didn't win the flaming cup, It would have taken 12 months to put the place back together again:eek::D:rolleyes:

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:)i know :Djust as silly people saying there was 10,000 rioting rangers supporters in manchester as the above itle says:rolleyes::)

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well all i can say is would take manis word over the news of the world- any day.:rolleyes:

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why take the word of someone who isnt correct - the title states 10,000 were a disgrace - wrong - 300 were who acted like scum - the other 9,700 in that particular zone I would say behaved well all things considered.
the other 150,000 fans spread in the city centre behaved well - this was also repeated by GMP top brass. although they have been somewhat overshadowed by the knuckle draggers who rioted.
I will say it again - manchester couldnt cope with the sheer number of fans, not enough of anything - toilets, food outlets, first aid tents, you name it. - and they want to host the olympics??
it was such a shame as I had a great time there and I only learned about the riots the next morning when I switched the tv on...

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:rolleyes:... you are a fan of a team who will not win anything anytime soon, you won the league way back what...14 years ago or something like? how many times you won it since ?
and I wouldnt brag about your champions league record - what is it - played in it once ? lost 3 and won 1 - but hey you won the league once...
and your uefa cup record aint anything to sing about...for me trelleborgs spring to mind and that team from the tin pot league ( celtic) dumped you out in spectacular fashion - but hey you won your league once !
and you call the scottish league 2 teamed - how many can win yours - be honest here - 2 - manure and chelski - arsenal dont have the depth or the bottle to last a season, so really your league is no better than ours - just more cash to spend..
at the end of the day , your a small club in a good league, you will never ever win that league again so I can understand why you harp on about winning it 14 years ago...
and second rate league or not, champions league every season mate, failing that uefa cup, and dont say for one minute that it doesnt bother you as it would bother me that some teams from a second rate league get into europe every single season where as you (rovers) once won your league and play in a good league so therefore we should be there - not them :( you only have a slim uefa cup chance through the inter toto cup :D (woooo) and even then you may not make it..
face facts - your living off history and every year that you dont win something that bit of history gets further and further away...

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and when they did last win something it was an ex rangers manager with ex rangers players that did it:rolleyes:;):)

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yeh but when they won the league it was n ex CELTIC player that managed em.:D

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and he grew up as a rangers supporter..

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he wasnt good enough for us:rolleyes:we must have had some good players coming through then...:)

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very true - an ex player from that tin pot league he mentioned...
for a tin pot league it doesnt do too bad...

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i agree that Blackburn have very little chance of repeating their premier league win, about as much chance as rangers winning the champions league, thats reality. all credit to em fer reaching the final though. the celtic side that won the european cup (67) i think, was the only scotish side i have ever seen that was as good,if not better, than any english side of that era, no question. more reality.;):)

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

the uefa cup is rangers/celtics level.
a good uefa cup run/ the final is as good as rangers or celtic will ever ever achieve - any normal fan of these teams know this and when they enter the champions league the best they hope for is the last 16 which both teams have done in recent years which is still a good achievement by any standards. - and thats a good reality - you have to be in it to win it and rovers are never in it league wise..and I do feel your comparison was a bad one..
and as good as that celtic side was I would say apart from inter in the semis celtic played teams who werent that great, take nothing away from though - and they were the only scottish team to win the european cup - but they werent the only scottish side to get to the final before them...

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

don't really matter who they played glasgow guy, Inter of that era were 1 hell of a side, why do you think the comparison is a poor one, Rovers- Premier, Rangers Champions league, i reckon thats about the same odds.:confused:

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

:rolleyes: cos we have gotten to the last 16 of the champs league - which is kinda close - rovers have never been close to winning that league in recent years...

this kinda discussion could go on for ages and ages...

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

6th in premier is about as close i reckon.

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

6th is close - yes I agree but the points gap between 6th and say 3rd could be 21 points for instance - in which case there would be no chance of closing it...
its been said before about the premiership - its 3 leagues in one :

top 5 battle it out to see who finishes top...

mid table play for the cups/nothing as they wont ever win it

bottom to mid play to avoid relegation..

this is a pub discussion where the beer should be on the go !:thepint::D

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

would that be the one who couldnt hack PROPER football, sulked and cried like a baby that he was homesick...ffs get real man !!!

he wasnt good enough for the premiership and he and we, knew it, he wanted second rate football so he looked good thas why he went " home"...home ffs, he's about 200 miles away, 3 hours in a car ..what a nonce :mad::mad:


but we did get one of the best players ever to grace ewood off you in tugay

tugay you are my turkish delight :alright:

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

DITTO !!!!!! :D..:dummy2:

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

apart from the league cup we have already won, the possible league title we may still win and the league cup final we have this weekend - but apart from that nothing !
when did rovers ladt win anything and when was the last time you were in a cup final ?

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

he played 36 games in total - done his cruciate and came back from that which is a bad injury for any player - and scored 3 goals..and he was the captain of your side and he got 14 man of the matchs - not bad for someone who wasnt there for long... he seen that mid table premiership teams aint that good and he went back to rangers - and thats the 2nd rate footy that got him to a uefa cup final,various league and cup medals - when were rovers in a euro final ? - I will say it again - might be 2nd rate footy but the achievements **** over anything rovers and most premership teams will ever do - its medals that count for players..not nearly getting euro place in a league....

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

well when its a two teamed lg with a champions lg place and a uefa place, its not exactly hard to qualify is it :confused:..its not rocket science that the epl is a far better lg with far better teams than the spl, thus meaning its harder to qualify for said competitions, im sure if rovers played in the spl we would qualify for europe every season, infact id go as far as to say that if burnley played in spl they would qualify !!!...

and as for fergie, i stand by every word i wrote,HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH, and he was only made captain coz uncle souey wanted to keep him sweet !!! as soon as sparky arrived he saw him for what he was and got shot...

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

k k, we gonna have to call the riot police for you two???

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

Middlesbrough got to final 2 years ago that should put uefa cup into context. regards to the subject it was a pish up for all and everybody and loads of english were present joining in.

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

about 5 yrs ago, but we won.:D

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

you're either winding me up or genuinley believe that - if you do believe it then your heads full of fresh air...

to end this all I will say this :

you enjoy next season trying to avoid relegation/trying to get into europe/trying to get to a cup semi, and I shall enjoy my team playing in the champions league...

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

:lol::lol::lol:......OMG..thats THE best joke iv'e heard in 30 years...you should be on a stage man...:rofl38::rofl38:....:alright:

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

How come? do scotland get 2 champions league places?:tongueout

Re: Those 10,000 or so rangers fans were a disgrace...
 

is this not getting slightly off point?