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MikeA 22-04-2008 13:17

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Originally Posted by carpon (Post 566199)
I think that signing Kempson is a MUST.

That may become a possibility, as Paul Simpson is promising a clear-out at Shrewsbury: BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | Shrewsbury | Simpson prepares summer clear-out

harwood red 22-04-2008 22:36

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 566235)
Small consolation in the context of the post but that record went on Saturday to Colchester :)

But at least they have scored a fair few more goals than us to say their GD is -23 & ours is -34:(

afrikaaner 25-04-2008 12:58

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couldn't agree more i don't think i can stand another season of coley time for change.

RED THROUGH AND THROUGH,ACCY TILL I DIE :mosher:

loweiy 28-04-2008 11:41

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we must let john carry on!!!! every year we finish in a better position than the last that's not lies it's the truth.

Loweiy

Wynonie Harris 28-04-2008 13:16

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"I don't think people seriously realise what we work with and on what sort of budget. If they did, I think they would die of shock." This, from John Sill, manager of D&R, whose average gates are, at this moment, running at around 400 higher than ours!

It's also interesting to look on the Daggers forum, which seems to be largely free of character assasinations against the manager. In fact, the fans seem happy to have survived with the resources they have. That makes a refreshing change! :)

depechemode 28-04-2008 14:31

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Lets close this thread and look forward to next season .

JEFF 28-04-2008 14:44

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 568682)
"I don't think people seriously realise what we work with and on what sort of budget. If they did, I think they would die of shock." This, from John Sill, manager of D&R, whose average gates are, at this moment, running at around 400 higher than ours!

It's also interesting to look on the Daggers forum, which seems to be largely free of character assasinations against the manager. In fact, the fans seem happy to have survived with the resources they have. That makes a refreshing change! :)

People keep going on about Stanley paying the lowest wages, having the lowest budget, etc. I have asked this question before - will somebody PLEASE tell me what wages we pay and what wages the rest of league two pay, will somebody PLEASE tell me what our budget is and what the budget of the rest of legaue two is. Until somebody comes up with figures proving we pay the lowest wages and proving we have the lowest budget why doesn't everybody stop using this assumption as an excuse for Coleman, Bell and Whalley.

Wynonie Harris 28-04-2008 15:36

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I was under the impression that the average wage at Stanley was around £27,000, while the overall average for division two was circa £52,000. More importantly, surely it stands to reason as we get by far the lowest gates on the division and we're not borrowing any money, then we must have one of the lowest, if not the lowest, operating budgets? I will also repeat my question - if Coley's achievement of keeping a club in the league (albeit in a lowly position) on gates of circa 1,500 is nothing exceptional, then how come no other manager is doing it?

lancsdave 28-04-2008 15:42

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 568732)
More importantly, surely it stands to reason as we get by far the lowest gates on the division and we're not borrowing any money, then we must have one of the lowest, if not the lowest, operating budgets?

Isn't it also the case that league one and two salaries are capped and can only be paid in relation to gate receipts ?

Wynonie Harris 28-04-2008 15:47

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Yes, I think you're right, Dave, which means that, officially, we must be paying the lowest salaries in the league.

JEFF 28-04-2008 15:50

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 568737)
Isn't it also the case that league one and two salaries are capped and can only be paid in relation to gate receipts ?

The salaries are capped but they can be paid in relation to turnover. This includes gate receipts, lottery receipts, transfer reciepts, bar receipts, pub receipts, in fact any receipt.

JEFF 28-04-2008 15:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 568732)
I was under the impression that the average wage at Stanley was around £27,000, while the overall average for division two was circa £52,000.

Precicely 'under the impression', will somebody please come up with some facts that substantiate the argument.

Oggy 28-04-2008 16:37

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 568743)
Precicely 'under the impression', will somebody please come up with some facts that substantiate the argument.

Cashman wrote, Dec 2006, "eric whalley was on granada tv the other night picking a deserved award up for stanley, he said the average wage for the division was £53K, and stanleys average £27K".

Original survey from The Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/163676000-the-average-salary-of-a-premiership-footballer-in-2006-473659.html

Worth a look at the age related wage section, even if it is a couple of years out of date. :juggle2:<!-- google_ad_section_end --><!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Willie Miller 28-04-2008 16:38

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Coleman is God..... FACT!

Oggy 28-04-2008 16:45

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 568768)
Coleman is God..... FACT!

If we're going all religious, is Queen of the South the only football team mentioned in the bible? ;)


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