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Dave, Thanks for your reply, re the longside yes i was on The Turf in the 70s and it was some place and was there recently and i agree with you its not the same but they still make a lot of noise, its still one of Footballs great places,, re insults Sorry if i have badly written the piece i never set out to offend anyone on here my record proves that but anyhow thanks for your response, by the way a good win for your boys today i for one wish them more sucess.

Keep the faith....

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This is the "spin" that the club are putting on it now. That those who don't want seats on the Clayton End don't want to stay in the FL.

Rubbish - the club have had three years to sort this out and it seems to me that they've done very little. During that time any rumours about seats on the Clayton End have been met with indignant denials. Now it's too late to do anything else and the club have turned it round and are trying to make the fans feel guilty for wanting to keep the Clayton End all-standing.

Well, it doesn't matter now, the seats are here and they're going to be installed. But two things are for sure - it'll diminish the atmosphere and the matchday experience for a lot of fans and the way it's been done will leave a bad taste in the mouth for many supporters. :(

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the first paragraph is utter garbage, the rest of yer post good sense. i started popping up the stanley occasionally cos i can still STAND. the atmosphere at ewood were ive bin since 62, went to crap when it became all seater, same at other bigger crowds/grounds. any man u season ticket holder will say the same i have no doubt.:) but it was a well meant post.:)

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new stand down the cowshed 2years ago would have sloved this mess but we keept putting off untill the **** hit the fl men and they said do it or out me and overs will move back up the end two the top untill the next thing will be to fill clyton end with seats and put use in the away end i can see this coming :idunno::gif_12:

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Really wanted to keep out of this one but need to have my say and i aint going one side or the other, yes we do have to put the seats in but as said people dont have to like it i go to stanley because to watch football imho you stand up and to me the game has lost so much because fans are made to sit.In my youth i was a longsider and what a place to be!!! visited the turf recently to watch em take on spurs and it is not an experience that will be repeated soon due to the lack of elbow room and feeling most uncomfatable for the whole match and there aint the atmosphere any more just the odd pocket of fans here and there trying to get behind the team instead of 5 or 600 in full cry and lifting the longside roof.To me it would be a sad day if the FES (OR WHATEVER ITS CALLED BY THEN) ever became all seater and i think even though i am stanley through and through that day will be the last day

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well said that man, agree with every word even though yer n ex dingle.:D cashy agreeing wi a dingle,who would have thought it.;)

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Quite a long thread, this, doesn't really seem to be getting anywhere.

So how about surrendering the Clayton End to away supporters, bolting all the seats behind the goal and that end of the cowshed, if there's any left, and getting extra money via the turnstiles.

It's not so long since we changed ends at half time anyway. ;)

Just think of the publicity, "Stanley fans brave elements for future of club!", etc.

And in a couple of years we can go back to long threads about needing a roof, what's Eric done with all the money from the seats etc. :)

Poll, anyone? :rolleyes:

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Fine by me:eek:

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Lets take bets... I say no seats in this side of march...

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:mad::mad::mad: Great for the ultras ?????????????? mmm 50-80 fans pleased then somewhere for their flags, mmm i think they would much prefer to display their flags as proper fans & wave em as traditional @ stanley:confused::confused:

Also the noise level will ultamately change from the ultras end, because the accumalation of people around & IN front of the ultras the noise level is contained in volume & carriage, imho [gee supporting the ultras part here shocker lol]:theband:

Plus the advantage of having a force in front of the goals can politely put off the opp goalie also helps our kenny or bavs, having that support right behind he does need to know the time upon closing mins, the defence needs the fans in that pocket to encourage the lads to defend or see something ie back post - also our forwards as well driving em to goal. The 12th man is being lost if the standing folk go & its as very important spot a i have highlighted! So our job goes along with it & its not the same in other areas of the ground imho.

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Exactly wyn, we keep saying the same point & somehow its always mis-interprepted as we wanna go down - we dont we just dont want the bloody seats in the clayton end! :mosher:

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There is absolutely no chance of the seats being in before this March.

The concrete steps will need modifying to accommodate the seats, then the new concrete will need about a week to cure, before you can start drilling holes to support the seats. Then there's 900 seats to put in one at a time.

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:rofl38: lol KP, i'd say no seats till other side of april just befiore may & they'd want volunteers for the task :D but knowing the club they will put em in sooner than that just to pee some us off :rofl38:

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Oh this is so hillarious :rofl38: :rofl38: so could mean they may not be fitted in time, mmmmm just a thought :rofl38: .......ok they got all the seats delivered & piled at the club, surely they aint gonna try a technicality are they..... got the seats but just not fitted pushing the deadline a bit.........i know far fetched but very the club:D

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Was thinking the above myself just the other night, ....... Liams "Matchday Club"
making their racket to the left:wave8::theband: "The Whinney Hillers" behind the goals, Cav/Mullers leads the Team out inbetween our fans :) Sounds like a plan to me :D So what if it pours down all over us? We have had it before so we can have it again, and it would probably be enough to make Eric fork out for a new roof just so we can't have our fun :D:D:D

Would take that any day over what is on offer now:)

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Me too! I'd put up with rain, hail, sleet, wind and snow to be on an all-standing terrace. Problem is, though, that a lot of our more casual fans wouldn't.

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They have always got the seats,the cowshed,the radio and the match threads on this forum :D:D:)

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According to Eric on Soccer Am the people of Accrington would prefer to stand in the rain :D

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an important fact is with a roof a terrace keeps/amplifies the sound, when they switched blackburns "Darwen End" fans to the Blackburn End the same number of fans made the same noise, but it was no where near the volume generated at the darwen end, the diference was the darwen end had a much lower roof, so less away fans installed there,sounded much louder.:( it aint just the rain that would be n issue.

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Same at the Turf Mr C. The Cricket Field stand has better acoustics than the newer stands with higher roofs.

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That's where the acoustic damping comes in, applied to the underside of the roof.

Plus we'll remove most of the away fans for failing to sit down ...... having hired Rochdale's stewards. :rolleyes:

Sorry, forgot to mention that bit.

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I noticed the usual Google Page Ranking from Eric spending X amount of pounds on a roof & the gates got lower, put seats in & it'll be lower than that lol, dont u love FL rulings?!

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Thing is we waited for yrs to get the long awaited roof & yes it has made a huge difference to the accoustics & loudness of the crowd - plus the advantage of not getting soaked, mmmm trading roof for standing - thats a hard desicion except when its sunny & warm:rolleyes::D

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I've been thinking about Oggy's posts, and I would agree. It makes sense, plus we could charge away fans the same as the main terrace, an extra £2 per adult.

The Accrington end will need a roof eventually.
Away fans go to the Crown, so the nearest end for them is the Clayton end.

Stanley Fans in the Accrington end.

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Good thinking, Redash! So, Southern Red, what do you reckon? Worth mentioning to Eric and the board?

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put me in the rain sigin keeps you warm and danceing to j bell would like us back at that end me and some pal had a chat to him not so long ago

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Can't believe it :eek: Looks like our Eric has orchestrated this whole "Clayton End Seats" thing all along:surprise:

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This is becoming the best/daftest conspiracy theory since the grassy knoll shot JFK. Was Eric in Dallas then?

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Of course he was ;) Can not believe you thought otherwise :rolleyes: Who else pulled the trigger :D


:D:):D

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... and he never paid for it!

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I thought about this a week ago, and have passed the comments on to the main people working on the project at the club. ( I thought you lot would lynch my IF I made the thoughts public!!)

My own personnel thoughts are not to move to the Coppice end, here are my reasons:

1) Parking + movement of away fans. We park up coaches and visitors on Livingstone road. If they entered via the Clayton End not sure what the safety experts would say re spectator movement and car movement. Our biggest issue at present is unauthorised car movement. I could only see it being a bigger headache IF the change was made

2) Toilets + catering are much superior at the Clayton End, also you can shelter when eating under the roof in the compound

3) Again a personnel observation. The majority of crowd disorder (which is minimal) is in the away crowd. We have had very few home ejections during our time in the FL. There have been loads of away ejections. Its very easy to spot and control trouble from the police box, would be much harder if the trouble was to be on the Clayton End.


I can see the positives of the atmosphere + dressing rooms etc at the Coppice End.:)

What would solve ALL the issues would be for some kind sole to win the lottery (I had only 3 numbers this week!!) build the all singing + dancing stand we all want on the Whinney Hill then we could have Accy fans behind both goals, like Rochdale, Lincoln + Bradford. Thats what we are all dreaming of, we just need the extra injection of capital:rolleyes:

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I would think that would be the first and foremost reason for not moving the away fans. I doubt as a club you would hardly get a say in it either. I would think the police prefer the current arrangements and what they want they get, otherwise you get no ground safety certificate. Am I right ?

Your more likely to get lynched for the tenner than your views :D

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What you going to do? pay fans to come :rolleyes: :D :D

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Yes, can see your points, SR, but, as the "superior" toilet/catering facilities at the Clayton End only comprise portakabins and trailers, surely it would be relatively easy simply to move them round. As for the police control room, that's got to be replaced at the end of the season, anyway, so why couldn't the permanent one be built at the Clayton End? Still think the directors should consider it.

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Also if the clayton end was made all seater the ground capacity would fall to 4,356k Currently 5,056. Clayton End area has a current capacity of 2000 at the moment 600 seats are to be put in at that rate to seat the whole of the clayton end you'l need another 6/700 seats which reduces capacity to 12/1300 from 2000 a short fall of 700 spaces to me a none starter

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Nothing to stop them installing the seats on the bottom half of the Clayton End, as they are proposing to do now and then giving it to away fans. That way, we've got the capacity and the seats to satisfy FL requirements. However, as Dave says, the parking/movement of fans issue is probably the fly in the ointment. Worth discussing, though.

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Create a corridoor from the gate at the top of the away end car park to the back of the whinney hill stand which in turn leads to the back of the clayton end stand thus keeping home and away fans seperated

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could weld them up in to sections say 10 or 12

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as any seats gone in

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grimps... theres no chance this month mate... maybe in march :) according to todays observer the plans havent been approved yet..

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seems like a "Cunning Plans" afoot here K-P:D;)

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Baldrick does come to mind as it happens :)

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so its going to come down to the wire on to fronts the league and the grounds so kicked out the league and town -30 at the start of the season reprieve sounds ****

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Don't worry Eric will have all the new seats installed by June :eek: 2009

Remember what happened to Cambridge City last season, they called the Leagues (Conference South) bluff - but it was not a bluff and they got kicked out for failing to upgrade their ground. Now its the BGL for poor old City.

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not good need to be in on may the 1st or we are out bye the 2nd of may bury away party time non league here we come and it was nice mr jc calling the say away fans again well what about the one that come and stay then go after years

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Hang on. People are worrying about the seats not having been installed yet, but I thought people didn't want the seats putting in???? Make your minds up!! ;) :D

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We don't want them in, but if they are going in, we want them in before April's out, so we can stay in...the league, that is.

Is that clear? ;)

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Can you do me a diagram? :D

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How many times have you been told that the seats WILL be in place by 1st May. Why keep going on about it. The only way we will be out of the league is if we get relegated. The only way WE can help not get relegated is to support Stanley, so get up to the FES on Saturday and Tuesday and get behind the team and let's have a couple of wins, and for goodness sake stop moaning about the seats.

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It wasnt a case of will they wont they.. it as a case of when.. thats what we where talking about..

As you brought up the subject.. I wouldnt worry about seats being a reason for relegation.. or ending up in relegation zone... the ongoing fiddle diddle enquiery from the bury game would be my worry... hardly going to be a ten pound fine is it ...

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Thought that was put to bed ages ago?????

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Must agree with this bit :):)

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Why did you think that? every couple of weeks the observer print a small 3-4 liner saying its still ongoing because thats all the info they can get from the FL

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K-P even if there was any substance to the allegation no one has suggested the club were in any way implicated. Why should it suffer?

In the 60's it was Swan Layne and Kay who took the rap over the bets that were put on their result at Ipswich - Sheffield Wednesday only got sympathy.

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aww come on! your not that nieve are you? history tells you that no matter who at the club has done wrong.. the whole club, town, fans are the ones that suffer.. If there is no wrong doing then why so long?

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I think this is dangerous territory which is why I refrain from quoting from any posts on the topic.

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:) Any up dates on the seating anyone(is more help needed by the club from the fans):)

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I still think the club are planning to install most of the seats by the middle of May or early June at the latest :D - but don't worry they will be in place well in time for the start of the new season - in the Blue Square :eek:

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:( need to be in by 1st/2nd of may to stay in:)

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Article about it on the Football League website yesterday, so they can see the work is being done :)

The Football League | News | Coca-Cola League 2 | Coca-Cola League 2 | STANLEY FANS MAKE A STAND!

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Seriously :excl8: It is only just over 5 weeks until the deadline, that does not seem like a lot of time to get the work done when you consider what has been done so far and the time that work has taken. We also have Easter coming up as well, which will not see much work carried out I would have thought ?? Could we have some up to date info please Southern :)

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i have always been more concerned about this issue than anything else, cos to me it is the ONLY thing that can see stanley out.:eek:

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ive rang accy left my phone number i was giving block to them of nothing . was nocking down 3 homes in burnley loads of brick wood and slat . all i got was we will ring you back 3 weeks ago so all the stuff gone to land fill

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The clubs Google Page Ranking is very poor. I called up after the Darlington game to find out why the extra seats had not been put in. I was was left waiting for 5 mins while the young lady who answered went to find help. She did come back in the end and said she was sorry but there was nobody there who knew :eek: - but she had heard that they were being installed after the last home game of the season (Chesterfield on April 25th:confused: ) - Eric really likes to push it :D

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why not the 1st may and see if we can make a new world record 4 800 seat in a day lol

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if all the concrete is poured and set and the holes pre-drilled then it shouldn't take too long to screw a load of bolts down.

perhaps if the club need some bodies down for this task then they could send their emissary, Mr Southern Red to post it?

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:)Bin club shop today,asked if anything was happening with the seats,lee said they were lowering the wall which runs the length of the whinney hill stand.:)

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Piece here with St Mirren quoted in a very good light about providing seats:

Saints Put Best Seats Forward - The Sunday Mail

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thanks 4 that haggis 316 nice read

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i reckon St Mirren deserve to be painted in a good light,well done the Saints.:theband::)

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:) ANY NEW PICS K-P or ANY UP DATE'S ANYONE ON THE PROGRESS THE CLUB ARE MAKING REGARDING THE SEATS :)

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I am there tommorow with my camera.. will take pics ... but As far as I know no seats in yet.. but dont worry we have 31 days left :)

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:)Cheers Tony.. 31 days:eek: blooming ek times flown,sounds like we could do with diy sos team to help out;):D

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:) if any help is needed pm me!!! and i'll do what i can :)

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what the see threesixty mentioned on fishy site? have they forgot to put a link in?
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i have been today.. the seats have started to be bolted in the cowshed....wahay it begins... pics late today

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its a start anyway.:) are they gonna seat all the cows there next season?:D

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Nice one

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ok ok the whinney hill terrace or stand as it will have to be known i suppose.... but until they knock it down and get rid of the back and roof its always gonna be the cowshed :)

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unless they get a new sponsor, says n optimistic cashy.

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do we now if the new cow-shed will be open before the lincon game for the away fan exter cash £15.00 per fan many help a little

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doubt it! think it will be closed till end of the season

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Just been up.. Work has started on the clayton end.. pics later this aft.. new walkway concreted in at back..ooer

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I take it the Clayton End will be open for business ?????

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ya know what.. thats the first question I asked when I saw all the wood framework.. wierd eh :)

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Is that a yes then K-P?

P.S. Thanks for the piccy update...:D:):D

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Just playing wiht ya.... yeagh it will be open sat according to mick S ... he says they are just concreting the top back as that will be the walkway..

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Cheers K-P....

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Seats Gallery now Updated..........

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Just when you accept that seats have to go in on the Clayton End they throw something new at us Claytonenders and make the best standing spot IMHO into a walkway??? WHY??? Not happy!!! Bet the Ultras aren't also.:mad:

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so no more back rest or lening wall at ht :cool:

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Can't see many using that to be honest, imagine when your going, will you walk up to the top before you head for one of the exits at the end? I hope you will, it will leave the bottom bit clear for me for a quick exit :)

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Are we expecting a few bats to buy season tickets Tony :rolleyes: :D

march_31st_09_7.jpg :: Accy Stanleys New Seats

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I blame the drink myself :)

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It will be walkway then there will ahve to be a barrier and then standing... then another barrier and then seating.. . I dont think any of us had thought about that... I can see a walkway is needed.. just never thought ....

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Why couldn't it be at the bottom, the ones sat down (:rolleyes:) wouldn't have someone dribbling down there neck then :D
Their taking the best view points away at the top

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april_1st_09_2.jpg :: Accy Stanleys New Seats

So, there are only going to be six steps of standing terracing? If everybody who presently stands on the Clayton End and Whinney Hill tries to fit in there, it's going to be one heck of a squeeze!

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Be cosy though won't it :rolleyes:

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Oh yes indeed...do you think we can persuade Toni to come and stand with us? ;)