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Your presuming the seats start at the existing barriers :)

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I commented on that until I realised somebody with a warped sense of humour had probably planted them there for a photo :rolleyes::D

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I think I've missed something here?? Will there not be any standing in the Cowsheds from next season??? Cannot make it out from the photo's.....:confused:

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So does this mean that the first line of barriers as shown here april_1st_09_1.jpg :: Accy Stanleys New Seats
are being taken out? What would be the point of that?

,,,and Valairian, yes, it's all seating in the Whinney Hill.

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have macclesfield got a walkway behind theirs? hard to tell from the photos
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I do not see why we have to have a walkway, why can't when the seats are in and people are using them, if they want to go get refreshments or whatever why can't they just walk to the steps and down to the front and walk round like you would do at Rochdale! And people who are standing just do the same walk to the steps and down to the front!

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The whole thing has to ahve a safety certificate... its not really the clubs decision.. In the cow shed the seats go from right at the front and its a walkway at the back of them as well..

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be like the old days that -ya dont have to go fer a slash.:D

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Don't forget your rolled up newspaper!

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:) With the seats going in ,Does that mean that they can be used for this weekends game??????????:):)

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would doubt very much mab, too my way of thinking they surely must have to be "Passed" fer H@S when completed is my thoughts.:)

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Remember Ultras if it's awalkway there will be NO hanging banners from the back wall. If you fancy another silent 10 minute protest count me in.

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Thanks for that Wynonie :thumbsup: I feel aggrieved at having to move in The Clayton End :eek: but at least I can still stand! I feel really sorry for the "Cowshedders" because now they have to sit or move to The Clayton End.....:( These sodding seats .....And yes I know we must have them.

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Posted via Mobile Device See what a nitemare its becoming, which makes deciding whether a tenner difference in standing/seating but with ponderence where u stand and if theres room, well theres gonna be plenty of seats. Not gonna be much room to disco.

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sitting may just be yer best option?:D

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Posted via Mobile Device. Lol seating would be worse one way to get a face lift :0

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being the gents we are on here we'll stick to the usual ladies and children 1st rule :-)
i'll not mention the old ones just yet, i'll see how much room there is 1st :-)
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I think if you ask Kenny he will tell you it's no good sitting, a good shot stopper should always be on their toes ;)

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I'm not going with that one, It's more to do with not letting paying standing punters think they can sit down on the cheap (there might be one or two). If the walkways where left as they are now there would be no problem with the H&S certificate but because the club are putting a barrier between the seats and standing they have to make the new walkway and further annoy its loyal supporters.:(

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There has to be a walkway from left to right... currently its at the bottom nr the wall.. When the seats go in that will be a different section to standing... So there has to be a walkway for the standing area...

There isnt really anywhere else it could be.. If you think between standing and seats... that would mean removing a step (or two) to make a walkway wide enough and will the best will in the world adding concrete is a massive difference to trying to remove a step ..

I dont see as theres any option for the walkway and its placement..

I do see that in three years of planning there could ahve been other options as to where to put the seats in the first place that would be in line with Rob Heys annoucement that theres no chance of seats going into the Clayton end.. but thats another story :)

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Personally I think the best place would be between the seats and standing, no need to "remove" a step, just fill the lower one in to the level of the next one, just like they have done with the new walkway

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oh yeagh :)

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So we go back to what I said earlier it's about money and balls to the supporters, sort of.:(:rolleyes:

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Still don't understand where the seated area is going to start. Is it after the first lot of barriers?....after the second lot of barriers?...or are they completely repositioning the barriers and it's somewhere inbetween?

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Southern Red must not know because he's read this thread and gone.
I bet part of the Clayton End will not be used on Saturday, anyone agree?

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Was thinking the same myself, the concrete might have been down a few days and hard enough to stand on but the edge will crumble away if not set properly,
Can we not test the new seats in the cowshed :rolleyes:

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no different than any other week then :rolleyes:

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Ouch!! :)

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:) The first lot of barriers are being removed and reposistioned at each end of the whinney hill sand which will increese the standing capasitie. the concret mold's will then be put in up to the second barrier to which if im right 3 rows of seats will be put in 600 of em:)

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So that means there'll be more than six steps of standing capacity, then? Oh well, at least that's something. Cheers for the info, Mab. :)

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:) Not sure about that one wynonie proberly not on the clayton end,what i ment was with putting the crash barriers at each end of the whinney hill stand you can increase the standing in thoses areas alone.i think the capacity of the ground will drop from 5,055 to just over 5,000.sorry if i got your hopes up:)

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Oh right, I thought by the "first lot of barriers" you meant the ones shown here. ie the ones with the planks against them.
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Sorry, for the misunderstanding! :)

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:) no i should have said from the wall at the front to the second crash barrier.still think its going to be tight time wise to get the job done,after saturdays game we've got chester at home on easter monday,and the concret has to put in yet:sad8:

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Cheers for the info, Mab. So, the home standing fans will be confined to six steps at the top of the Clayton End, plus a little bit of terracing at the Whinney Hill/Clayton End corner. Doesn't sound too good to me, but I suppose we'll just have to put up with it. :rolleyes:

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:)Thats what i was told. but if im wrong on any thing im sure southernred will varify the rights n wrongs.:)

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will the clyton end be shut for h@s same as the shed

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if it is than where are we going to go! doubt will all fit in main stand!!

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just been fer a nosey after coming out of club shop, was told that forward of new concrete ramp at back of clayton end, will be fine fer standing tomoz.:)

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If Eric sees 'cashman woz ere' written in the cement there'll be hell to pay :D

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Would cashy do that Shaker, ya probably would, that or Killroy was here:D

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Well im sure Lincoln wont be bring alot. So maybe they can just have half of the main stand and we can have the coppice end :)

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:eek::( half!!!! narr a little bit at the bottom with liams army:rolleyes: :D

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or have the cornor near the cowshed before it goes undercover and block of the entrance to the coppice end like it used to be in conferance. they pay at coppice end we pay at sofia khan end and walk round just like old times.

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give em a quarter of main stand then mab :p , cant we charge them more then because their in the main stand??

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i never saw eric shaker, mind you i was looking fer intelligent life.:D

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any up dates yet or pics

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oops took a couple last night at ressies and forgot about them... they have been concreting bottom of clayton terrace but it will be open on monday :)

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How come on the clayton end the wall that runs down the side closes to the main stand how come 4 of the breeze block bricks have been taken out and on the back wall right at the cornor near the cowshed end most of the bricks have been taken down! Is it going to be the exit

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I noticed that thought someone had got a bit frustrated & part of the wall fell down :rofl38:

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The hole at the back of the Clayton End was taken down to allow concrete to be poured through it.

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ahhh thanks for that TM! You do not know why the hole is on the side wall do you? If you do no know what i mean you will see it on Monday

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Sorry, I haven't seen that one. I'll scrutinise it on Monday. ;)

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the blocks have been taken out of the whinney hill stand so that you can walk through to the seats at the back, as it seems to have no breaks in the seats imo

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any up date on the ground. any new bits that will be out so we can stand there

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there will be plenty of room anywere in the ground, with all the "since 1999 fans" won't be turning tomorrow ta ta part timers

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Has there been any more work done, or will it be as you were for the Chesterfield match?? Can not help thinking we will be losing a few quid against them? Think they would have brought plenty as they are in a great position in the League....:)

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:) Chesterfield have been given 1200 tickets as far as i know :)

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Just thought that they could/might have brought more??? :)

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I think thats why its all ticket so they do not get in the home end! Is the 1200 just for the terrace or do they get that cornor bit before it goes covered

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What corner bit is gettin covered ?

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no i mean the little cornor before you walked under the covered bit which is getting seats.

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How do you know it's getting covered?

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is there any new potos kp thanks

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couldnt be bothered mate.. no one seemed interested :(

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No you got the wrong idea! I mean the cornor of the cowshed where it is open! I do not think seats are going in that bit! Like where the money banner was on our side of the cowshed but the other side of the cowshed

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What happens now on Saturday ?? Are we not even allowed to stand there for the final time :( Can't have an E.O.S. Do..... :theband: Can't have a final stand.... :wave8::wave8: Its great ain't it......:):):)

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anyone bought a ticket for clayton end?

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Do you mean for next year????

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All ticket on Saturday, Val...better get yourself up to the ground pronto!! :)

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yer hard work :) :)

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Does a season ticket not count ????? Hope it does or I am in the mire....

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Must say that's rich K-P. :D:)

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hahaha yeagh but i do it on purpose :)

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So am I, if that's the case...although it would give me an excuse to go back to the Oak Lea and carry on drinking! :D

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You don't say :D On a serious note, do ST holders need a seperate ticket ????

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No

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I thought you were W H :) Thats why you got me worried...:confused: :)

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Cheers K-P ;):)

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I went and got a ticket for the terrace on clayton end so if we hav to sit down might have to go and join the freeloaders on the fence :-)

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Anyone want a ticket for Sat, I know someone who has one but can't make the match

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are we under the 5,000 cap for the ground or are we building the in the next week 2may coming fast

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Even though I hate the thought of them :( This has to be looked upon as good news for the club :) Football League status for at least another Season :p:)

The Fraser Eagle Stadium
Friday 1st May 2009
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/ball.gifhttp://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/line.gif
Ground passes final Football League requirement
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/seats.jpgAccrington Stanley are delighted to have had our Football League status confirmed for 2009/10 with the news that we have officially increased our covered seating capacity to over 2,000 while maintaining an overall capacity of over 5,000.

The ground has been inspected by Lancashire County Council and the details of the new capacities passed across to the Football League, who require the above figures to be met by 1st May in a club's third season in the competition.

Speaking about the news Stanley's general manager David O'Neill said "A lot of hard work has gone on over the last few months, with much of it in the planning stages making sure that the ground operates correctly on a match day with the changes that we have put in place. More recently our director Bill Holden has put in a tremendous effort to get the physical job done, saving the club thousands of pounds, and we must also give a big thank you to the army of volunteers that have helped to make sure that the deadline was met. Now this box has been ticked we can get back to concentrating on the running of the club, preparing for 2009/10 and another season in the Football League."


:):D:):D:):D:):D:):D

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some say its progress, i say its needless expense put on the club by football muppets, who clearly have no idea how to run a business.:rolleyes: but it is GOOD NEWS.;)

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Finally this thread may now be put to rest on the
01/05/2009
We have got the seats in! We have got out league status for next year!
League 1 2010/2011 here we come!

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I think the club, especially Mark who has kept us updated on what's happening, deserve congratulations on this. Nobody seems to want the seats but, if having them means we preserve our league status, then so be it. It seems that the directors have been involved in some very effective wheeling and dealing that has got a nasty job done with the the minimum of expense and disruption.

Thanks too to everyone who chipped in with their time.

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Seats on the sacred slopes of the Clayton End...who'd a' thowt it?

Never mind, it's happened, we're still in the football league, so that's an end of it...onwards and upwards! :cool:

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Well said Mike... The Directors and Dave O Neill really have done well. Also well done to all the volunteers who also helped out thats what makes this club.

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Yep well done for dragging your feet for 3 years missing out on grants and then at the last minute lying to the fans and putting seats on the Clayton End, cheers.

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Does anyone know whether the seats have gone back in the whinney hill stand, cow shed, scratting shed. And if they have, someone was suggesting last Saturday that all that whinney hill side will be just far away fans next season.

Is this the case?

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Not too sure, :confused: My understanding from this thread and things in programmes Etc. is that the "Cowshed" will be seated 1/2 and 1/2 ..... Maybe Southern will answer this question... :)

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I am sure the plan is to leave segregation as it is - but if we get an instance where we could get another 200 or so away fans in then a fence could be erected to give them the whole bike shed

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That was my understanding as well. It's what I was told when I got my season ticket as well

I don't particular want to sit down, but I just find with my eyes it's lot easier to see both goals from under that shed.

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Nice one :D

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:)i was there on tuesday afternoon helping,and as i under stand it at the time we had an extra 200 seats in the clayton end 5 rows and a few extra in the main stand.160ish going in the whinney home section and none in the away section at that time,but those who have worked on the other day/nights would be able to say if there was seats in the cow shed

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Again to try and pass on what I know (it may not be the exact facts as I don't visit/work at the ground on a daily basis)

The main focus of the seats I have have consistantly said, despite being critised by some, was to get the seats in under cover by the 1st of May.

Orginially there was no intention to use the Clayton End, as that would reduce capacity.

We wanted to put something new on the Whinney Hill, but as there are only 40% grants currently available, we felt that it was unwise to take the club into debt.
We want to buy some modular, pre-build stands (lego/maccano type) but the design we required is not available.

All the experts said the cheapest way was to do exactly what you see now; seats under the Cow Shed and seats to the front of the Clayton End.

With regards to the "exacts" of the Cow Shed. Again I havn't been on the ground since Wednesday evening, but I believe the intention was to seat it all. Whilst there is a largeish gap at the back of the seats, this will be the walkway and no standing will be officially allowed.

With regards to the segregation and layout of the ground: again the main emphaise is to get the job done. We now have 3 months until the start of next season to sort out the finer points. I believe we should firstly find out what the users of the old Cow Shed want before making any firm decisions (however that is my own view only:rolleyes:) But whatever happens we will have to conform with the Safety Certificate issuers LCC.

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Thanks Southern :) At least we are still getting some information from the club. I think most of us have accepted that it has had to be done and now we must just look forward to next season's push for promotion :D Thanks for the post mate.

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My wife and I went to buy season tickets for the cow shed and were told by Lee that the whinney hill terrace was all to be used by away support. I said at the time it seemed a little strange, as the away support would very rarely fill all the cow shed and the Coppice end. There you are thats what I was told by Lee.

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If that's the case then those seats are going to be mainly empty for most of the season, whilst the Stanley fans are going to be crammed into the clayton end.

I am not sure I understand the logic in that.

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Posted via Mobile Device. Unless the demand for standing terraces within our home support is such that the alternative is that it retains 3 parts of the ground on days where there is less away support, as such to sell the away the cow sheds seats at the higher price than the terrace whilst offering possible growing home support that is standing - just a thought.

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I am led to believe that the seats have been permanently removed from the away section of the Whinney Hill Stand but the seats are still there in the home section.