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cashman 26-02-2009 11:06

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 685421)
Have you noticed the cut off date for the cheapest tickets - 4th April. A lot of company's financial year end and the tax year end is 5th April. If it's Stanley's financial year end then the income generated from the early season ticket sales will contribute towards this year's turnover. This will allow us to have a bigger wage budget for next season.

nice idea Jeff, dont add up to me though, if 500 take offer up before April 4th, only gives em £7000 extra, spread oer next season aint much.:confused:

lancsdave 26-02-2009 11:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 685478)
nice idea Jeff, dont add up to me though, if 500 take offer up before April 4th, only gives em £7000 extra, spread oer next season aint much.:confused:

Not spread over next season though, will be added to this years turnover, and salaries are capped to a percentage of turnover. So the bigger the turnover the more they are allowed to pay in players wages. Could be the difference between two washers a week and three washers a week :)

JEFF 26-02-2009 11:14

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 685478)
nice idea Jeff, dont add up to me though, if 500 take offer up before April 4th, only gives em £7000 extra, spread oer next season aint much.:confused:

We are only allowed to spend 65% of our previous year's turnover on wages. An extra £7000 turnover gives us an extra allowance of £4550 - not a lot - but every little helps. Both Chester and Morecambe have been wage capped this season and we don't want that to happen to us. Probably never will though as Eric only pays with washers. Then again that also depends on our previous year's turnover of washers.

cashman 26-02-2009 14:20

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 685482)
We are only allowed to spend 65% of our previous year's turnover on wages. An extra £7000 turnover gives us an extra allowance of £4550 - not a lot - but every little helps. Both Chester and Morecambe have been wage capped this season and we don't want that to happen to us. Probably never will though as Eric only pays with washers. Then again that also depends on our previous year's turnover of washers.

simple fact is Erics got it right, much as some don't like it. the old saying of- ya cut yer cloth,springs to mind.

Redash 26-02-2009 15:30

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 685479)
Not spread over next season though, will be added to this years turnover, and salaries are capped to a percentage of turnover. So the bigger the turnover the more they are allowed to pay in players wages. Could be the difference between two washers a week and three washers a week :)

I heard Eric on the radio a couple of years ago, talking about Bishop. He was happy to come to us, but Eric couldn't afford the extra £200 per week that Bishop wanted.
As Dave says above, the difference between 2 and 3 washers, is the same as giving the extra money to the likes of Bishop. Good strikers don't come cheap, and we badly need one.

JEFF 26-02-2009 16:05

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 685560)
I heard Eric on the radio a couple of years ago, talking about Bishop. He was happy to come to us, but Eric couldn't afford the extra £200 per week that Bishop wanted.

If you can't afford something you cannot buy it, simple. Look at the clubs who buy things they cannot afford - Darlington, Luton, Bournemouth, etc. in administration with points deduction. Is that what you want? If Stanley cannot afford something they do not buy it.

VALAIRIAN 26-02-2009 17:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 685524)
simple fact is Erics got it right, much as some don't like it. the old saying of- ya cut yer cloth,springs to mind.

Spot on Cashman :thumbsup: We have had it in`62 and others are feeling it now :( We may have poor facilities and small crowds but at least we do not owe millions and are not going into administration every other season and dropping divisions :) Well done Eric :D Keep it up :thumbsup::thumbsup:

maccawozzagod 26-02-2009 19:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 685478)
nice idea Jeff, dont add up to me though, if 500 take offer up before April 4th, only gives em £7000 extra, spread oer next season aint much.:confused:

oo er Cashy - ya missed a 0 off the figure, it's really £70,000 :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 685482)
We are only allowed to spend 65% of our previous year's turnover on wages. An extra £7000 turnover gives us an extra allowance of £4550 - not a lot - but every little helps.

it's now a little bit more - £45,500. Nearly a grand a week, £200 a week extra for five players - see below

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 685482)
also depends on our previous year's turnover of washers.

we'd be alright if we were Currys or Comet:p

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 685560)
I heard Eric on the radio a couple of years ago, talking about Bishop. He was happy to come to us, but Eric couldn't afford the extra £200 per week that Bishop wanted.
As Dave says above, the difference between 2 and 3 washers, is the same as giving the extra money to the likes of Bishop. Good strikers don't come cheap, and we badly need one.

difficult to get the balance right sometimes aint it? Would Bishop have gained us any extra points? would he have put an extra 15 bums on seats? would we have sold him by now for £300k?

Whilst I fully agree that we should be prudent (and have been) with our money, sometimes you have to take a punt on the good 'uns and hopefully you can look at a big fat transfer fee a little later on - even though it's never guaranteed. Apparently we fell £200 a week short on Bishop (later valued at £300k, we were close on Aaron McClean but couldn't agree personal terms (since valued at anywhere from £600k to £2m), missed out on McCombe who then went to Hereford, couldn't match Morecambe on personal terms for Carl Baker who later went for over £200k.

Whilst I agree that you have to have limit and stick to it, we have been close to some good 'uns over the last three years. Another 300-400 on our average crowd might see us get even closer to them.

p.s. that's why I am excited at the signing of McConville. He is highly rated and we got him :mosher:

Redash 26-02-2009 20:05

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
Reply no longer needed, as macca posted a better response whilst I was typing.

VALAIRIAN 26-02-2009 20:18

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 685660)
oo er Cashy - ya missed a 0 off the figure, it's really £70,000 :rolleyes:



it's now a little bit more - £45,500. Nearly a grand a week, £200 a week extra for five players - see below



we'd be alright if we were Currys or Comet:p



difficult to get the balance right sometimes aint it? Would Bishop have gained us any extra points? would he have put an extra 15 bums on seats? would we have sold him by now for £300k?

Whilst I fully agree that we should be prudent (and have been) with our money, sometimes you have to take a punt on the good 'uns and hopefully you can look at a big fat transfer fee a little later on - even though it's never guaranteed. Apparently we fell £200 a week short on Bishop (later valued at £300k, we were close on Aaron McClean but couldn't agree personal terms (since valued at anywhere from £600k to £2m), missed out on McCombe who then went to Hereford, couldn't match Morecambe on personal terms for Carl Baker who later went for over £200k.

Whilst I agree that you have to have limit and stick to it, we have been close to some good 'uns over the last three years. Another 300-400 on our average crowd might see us get even closer to them.

p.s. that's why I am excited at the signing of McConville. He is highly rated and we got him :mosher:

In answer to this Macca, I believe that yes he would have gained us more points, just by the virtue of the fact that he would have stuck it into the net :) Would he have put more feet in the stands ;) I believe that this goes hand in had with goals and points. Would we have sold him on for a good profit, well you would have hoped so but if not :- goals = points and points equal better gates, happier fans and possibly play off places :D So that would be as good as a sell on fee in my opinion :thumbsup::smokin:

shakermaker 26-02-2009 20:52

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 685670)
In answer to this Macca, I believe that yes he would have gained us more points, just by the virtue of the fact that he would have stuck it into the net :) Would he have put more feet in the stands ;) I believe that this goes hand in had with goals and points. Would we have sold him on for a good profit, well you would have hoped so but if not :- goals = points and points equal better gates, happier fans and possibly play off places :D So that would be as good as a sell on fee in my opinion :thumbsup::smokin:

Having pronoun trouble here. Who is 'him'? Bishop or one of the other players mentioned by Macca?

VALAIRIAN 26-02-2009 21:01

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 685685)
Having pronoun trouble here. Who is 'him'? Bishop or one of the other players mentioned by Macca?

Sorry for any confusion, this post was relating to Andy Bishop!

:)

shakermaker 26-02-2009 21:04

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
Cheers fella!

cashman 26-02-2009 21:14

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
sorry macca i did miss an 0 off, still 65% of that aint a fortune, but i take yer point.;):)

VALAIRIAN 27-02-2009 15:57

Re: Season tickets 09/10
 
Wonder how many we have sold? Would be nice if the club could keep us up to date on this thread or on the website :) (noticed your online Southern:D any chance of an official update:):))


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