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Idiots..................
From the Ashes and back in three Seasons.............let’s hope not. We can only hope the lads rise to the challenge and fill the void left by Paul. The management must be very brave, or very stupid. Gutted.......... |
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I doubt 'the management' has had anything to do with this.
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:( im still shocked, didnt have a clue till HR texted me to let me know - i did have to asked which mullers cos couldnt beleive Paul would go, even had a fella i dont know share in the shock as he'd just found out too. Have to agree with Willie Miller, for a nice change a realistic comment lol.
Will be a an interesting match tommoz tho i dont hold too much confidence with not seeing any of the loanees play i cant comment but also interesting to see how the other players react on the pitch without the usual target man. Will miss Paul, a really nice gent he was, had time & day for anyone, a quality which is a rareity these days, especially in football. |
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I do think that there's a lot of over-reaction on this thread. I liked Mullin as much as anyone, but I do think there're a lot of comments being made based on sentimentality.
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Of course TM, but still begs the question of a team without mullin, when mullers was injured & couldnt play, we played like real rubbish, do i need to remind people of the Peterborough away match last season??
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Mullin is a legend.
From a business point of view I think it's great 10, 20 30k??? For a player we don't NEED for the rest of the season. Am gutted he won't be playing when me and my chums come down for the stag do against Chesterfield. Worse news Grimsby now got Conlon, missed a trick there. |
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I cant, however, accept the club statement as being completely 'true' and like others have said I strongly believe there is more to this decision than meets the eye............much more, but as with most things Stanley,I doubt very much the true reason will be forthcoming! I do think,though, that we should wish Paul all the best and not feel 'stabbed in the back' as one poster has said...............Paul Mullin will always be a Stanley Legend............sentimental but true!! |
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You're quite right UK, we will all miss him.
As for the comments about Symes, well we should wait and see what he's like. Remember, Shrewsbury didn't rate Jimmy Ryan and let him go, so who's to say that they've not got it wrong again? ;) |
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thanks for helping us out with mullin. by the responce on here looks like he will do a job for us.
hope you lads dont miss him too much and i hope our fans dont do their usual and destroy him before he gets a chance. I for one thank you for helping us out, we needed it. |
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When Symes is out on the pitch we'll all support him. However, the stats of our two strikers are pretty hilarious (if you don't laugh, you'll cry).
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no its full of **** . one DO NOT GIVE IN TO PLAYER WE ARE NOT SAFE YET .2 FANS LET DOWN STOP SAYING GOOD LUCK HOPE IT A MESS GET IT RIGHT WE ARE NOT SAFE KID FROM BURNLEY **** NON LEAGUE KEEPER CRAP BEST THING HE CAN DO IS JOINE THE 2 MILLION AND THE PIECE OF **** FROM TOWN CANT HIT A BARN DOOR . I WILL NOT MAKE MY NEW SEASON TICKET NEVER GIVE IN TO PLAYER POWER BIG LET DOWN COLMAN THE CLOWN OUT AND THE BOARD
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can t sell sorry do not no were spell checker is but full of crap player power over year left on accy book what happen IF GET INJER and comes back to use me i would kick him out need a full clean out from board room to cleners
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coleman lovers come and shot me down down down non league he we come we will be like a rock .
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....bloody hell...now we'll have to face the bald eagle 3 times this season!
Begs the question as to what wages he was on, if you can also bring in 3 at the expence of 1... |
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i will but how many will not
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There's no way Paul has gone there just to have a chance of playing at Wembley,and he has not let the fans down in any way - you only need to read tonights LET to know he obviously didn't have a clue what was going on.
This is purely about saving his wages for a bit, Paul will have known that him going out on loan will ease the clubs finances for a while and that's the reason he has said yes to the move, after all when all the Shrewbury stuff was going on he said that he was happy to stay at Stanley but if ever the club wanted him to go then he would put the club before his own feelings and that is obviously what's happened. |
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20th march 2009, the day loyalty died!
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we're probably paying less than half of micheal symes shrewsbury town wages, we've probably got adam kay for nowt and the non league keeper is probably just happy to be here and as such is probably on less a week than jobseekers!!!
Not rocket science to figure out we've just saved a bit on wages is it? |
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I thought Dyson pulling the West Indies team off for bad light was stupid till I read this news. Reaarange the words "in cofffin the nail" .:eek:
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This is true Cashy !....Paul will not be with us tomorrow...who can say why the move was sanctioned, but it has, and THAT IS THAT !!. BUT....'The Red's' still need the points, and whatever Team steps out on 'the hallowed turf' tomorrow will, knowing the quality of the opposition, need the support of the loyal 1000 as much as ever !!. So without forgetting Paul's valuable and valued contribution over the years, and ignoring the prophets of doom who are already writing the incoming loanees off.. An assurance from every true fan that we are all behind our team is really required... so let's hear it..... ' ON STANLEY....ON !!' |
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1) thanks paul for your sterling service to the club. We will no doubt miss you, not least for your outstanding loyalty and willing towards the stanley cause.
2) its about time we looked to the future. Mullers has been less effective this year: maybe its his age, but i think other clubs have us figured out. We have played best this year when we have bossed the midfield and kept the ball on the deck, but often we still lump it to pm instead. We will be forced to change tactics now. That will bring us results |
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Wow, 129 posts, can't read them all.
So, good luck Paul Mullin. All the best, you've been awesome, plus some. |
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Mullin ain't just another player. Using my head it is easy to see reasons why he would like a shot at a "big club". It is easy to see why Coleman would not stand in his way. It is easy to see that it could make financial sense. However, as a football romantic... I yearn for a time when loyalty is valued above ££££ notes. That time, even at lowly Accrington, has gone.......... PS Its prob more childish to respond to my point of view with just........."grow up" :mosher: |
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its probably nowt to do with loyalty, more like economics, n as fer my response,thats all yer worth IMHO.:rolleyes:
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Sparkie - I completely agree with you.
It would appear that this has been done to save some money. Rightly or wrongly it would appear that those higher up have concluded that in all liklihood Stanley will remain a League club this season. As money is obviously very tight, and with Mullin presumably being one of the top earners at the club, they have decided to save on his wages for a few months. Although 3 players have been brought in, the keeper was brought in on a non contract basis (presumably meaning he is here as an amateur, in which case he will likely be due expenses only). Of late I have read a few articles about how good the clubs relationship is with Burnley - I strongly suspect that Burnley will continue to pay the wages of Kay whilst he is here as they are just glad that the boy is getting experience at a decent level (as opposed to reserve football), and as you suggested, the club will likely only be paying a percentage of the wages to Shrewsbury for Symes. All in all I think its a cost cutting exercise for a few months. With the poor form of Grimsby and Chester, and the reasonable gap between Stanley and both those clubs, I simply dont think that they both have it in them to overtake Stanley - infact I still think Stanley will win at least 2 more games anyway making it pretty much academic what the rest do. It is that reason, and the savings that will be made, that contributed to Mullin's exit for a while. Granted all of the above is pure speculation on my part, but it would appear the obvious explanantion as to why he is away on loan. Incidentally I am no way downplaying the importance of such a player to the club, both currently and historically, simply trying to offer a realistic explanantion to his departure. |
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So, I was worrying about getting the fabulously priced season ticket.
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More of a case of somebody higher in the chain of command seeing an opportunity to get a TOP EARNER off the books,for what they would hope to be seen as a "temporary measure". Truth is, if Bradford are successful in getting out of League Two with his services, will Mullin want to return ??? Answers on a postcard for attention of........??:confused: Fill in the rest if you will, but what can the club expect ??, with home gates LOWER than numerous Blue Square / Conference sides. I'm not wishing to defend whoever has sanctioned this deal and nobody would begrudge Mullers for trying to better himself. However, the timing stinks.:( Many have said the club has been taking "educated gambles". I.E. not splashing out cash on signings this season, gambling on points deductions to other teams securing our league status this season, etc,etc etc. This could be one gamble that could, in effect, bury a final nail in a coffin that many critics have been waiting to see "finally put to rest".:( With our Talisman gone, the man who was the inspiration and linchpin behind our meteoric rise back to the league and indeed staying in the league,now departed,with survival by no way assured, what price our demise back to the depths of non league obscurity??? If not this season, next?? What effect will this have on squad morale, supporter morale???:confused: Answers on the same post card. |
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I must say, this has come as a shock to me, but PM has not been scoring of late and JImmy Ryan has. The new signings look good especially Mick Symes so that should mix things up a bit. Also how many teams play us week in week out thinking PM is the target man (which he was) lets mark him out of the game. New blood, different way of playing, confuse the opposition. Good Luck to the team today and for the remainder of the season. For those of you who think it is bad, how many recently praised a certain EW for keeping the club in the black? Maybe this is just part and parcel of the savings, we will never know. Panic me, not yet anyway
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Well I have got over the shock and I have slept on it and today is a new day... My feelings about it now are .... Its still a crock :(
Has anyone got one good reason other than he wants to? One good reason for accy stanley? cus I ahve a bucket load as to why he should still be here.. Money... we have to pay wages to the ones in you know...Amazing how many of you are now saying he wasnt even up to the job... funny cus Bradford thinks he is and by the fact that he was being picked for stanley.. coley thinks he is as well. total crock so stop making petty excuses perlease :( |
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If he has gone as some people have put because we get to save a few ££££ and we might of got a loan fee for him, doesn't that say something about the money the club have because how come we never did it last year or the year before that. The club must be really desperate for money to do this to a good striker. 10 pages in one day says something about how the fans feel and the club will have alot to answer for. Walking on the terrace today i think thier will be an air of sadness, confusion, i wonder how coley feels about this, did he have any say in it, did he know they wanted him on loan or did he just get a call saying Mullin wont be in training hes gone bradford for a couple of months. Coley has done some amazing things for the club, but for the board to do this to him (thats if coley did not agree to the matter) than what relationship does that show! Does coley really deserve losing the best striker the club has even if he has not been scoring of late.
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Fans have the right to voice their opionion on this ....
However, yet again on here, that opinion is shouted down by the few. That is why less & less post on here. Your opinion may be different then mine but I wouldn'tbe arrogant enough to tell you that you are wrong. My thoughts :- Mullin wouldn't go unless he wanted to, therefore I question his loyalty when we are in the middle of a relegation scrap. JC will not stop any player moving on if they want to. That his the basis for his sales pitch to get players in. The "suits" have to balance the books, if this is the real reason then lets say so......... |
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The back of the LET says and i quote
"Eric Whalley insists there is a strong possibility that Accrington Stanley supporters have not seen that last of Paul Mullin in a Reds shirt. A section of Stanley fans yesterday vented thier anger on website messageboards over the clubs decision to let Accrington favourite Mullin join League Two rivals Bradford City until end of the season" it goes onto say about the loans we brought in than says "But questions have been raised over whether thise additions adequately compensate the loss off Mullin.... The move does prove financially beneficial for Stanley, as Bradford pay Mullin's full wages and an additional fee to accrington for each apperance the striker makes. however stanley chairman whalley insists it was mullin's burning desire for a new challenge that twisted the club's arm to relinquish thier star striker. the manager coleman didn't want to let him go, but it was Pauls decision to move to bradford said whallet it was a chance of playing at wembley" |
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I think Mullins opinion on the deal should have been secondary......
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I am always interested in Jase's contributions to this Forum and I for one hope he keeps posting.
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Yeah, I questioned Mullins loyalty and was told to grow up.......
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Posted via Mobile Device I think its more to the clubs benefit than paul's imho if paul was banging them in week in week out then i dont think the club would of let him go to easily. The club seem to be struggling to stay in the black & the season tickets arn't going to plan. The club ignore fans & was a Rubbish announcement.
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Exactly Diane, then fans like me would n't be questioning his loyalty to the red shirt!
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He was the one who got in front of his man & released Miles in the run up to the opener against Macc. He is also a legend.
Some things you cannot get your head around, this is one.... Its financial & I just wish the club would say so, then Mullin could be put back on the pedestal marked "loyal footballer" |
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:(When i first heard the news,which wasn't until late afternoon,it was one of disbelive and of sadness and anger that a player of pauls status and being the clubs only main striker would be loaned out at this stage of the season. Having had time to think things over and read through all the posts and those off the bradford forum. paul will be mist can't get away from that but a new challange waits him self and for stanley,i wish him well over at bradford,andhope we don't have a mullin hangover today and that everyone gets behind the lads on the pitch and behind the club:)
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Paul Mullin clearly had nothing to do with this deal except for helping out the club's financial woes by going on loan.
Has anyone seen the Lancashire Telegraph from last night? Paul was joking about not letting Jimmy pass him in the scoring charts for too long. That article will have been put together on Thursday. Come Friday he wants a kick-about at Wembley in a naff kit? Anyone who believes that needs their head feeling. The official statement on Paul leaving comes from the business side of the club, not the management. The management put together some words through gritted teeth about Michael Symes and there passes another day at Accrington Stanley. Paul Mullin gets better every season. His presence is immeasurable and invaluable. This leads to him being marked and targeted with greater hostility as the season wears on. To see him score any is an achievment with the batterings that lad has to take. His passing and positioning have improved greatly in the new year, and at this rate I'd envisage a one year extension onto his current deal. Perhaps a hint of sentiment there. We've lost of our linchpin on loan, we haven't had time to learn a different style of play (let alone look forward to one), and we have brought in three duffers. The team are going to need all our support this afternoon. |
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Three "duffers"? Based on what?
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One reported duffer and two inexperienced unknowns. Better? :)
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if folk want to protest, if folk want to sulk, if folk want to boycott....
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When Symes first went to Shrewsbury he was a revelation. A skillful player, but one that has suffered from injuries and a loss of form. Who's the say he won't re-find it with us? We might even be saying, "Paul who?", in a few weeks. ;) |
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I agree with TM.
When my other club returned to the top flight they took Lee Chapman who was thought to be finished at that level after duff periods at Arsenal and Sunderland for a knock down fee. The bloke was soon re-born and after a great spell at S6 went on to greater things with Leeds before moving to West Ham. Symes has a good pedigree and is still only 25. The lad from Burnley must be good to make their bench so early. What's wrong about coming from Burscough? Evil began there. Who can forget their cup exploits only losing 3-0 against Sheffield United at Bramall Lane and great players like Bobby Langton who played for England. |
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If the new keeper has to come on today and plays a blinder.. if the new midfielder sets up the new striker for a hatrick it would be fantastic.. If they so much as have a half decent game I will be happy... I hope they do ... But IT'S STILL A CROCK that paul mullin has lbeen loaned out.... all this about saving thousands a week on his wages and him not playing good enough.. what are you people on for gawds sake :(
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Nearly 4600 hits on this thread!
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I feared the worst today without Mullin who is in all honesty our talisman. Three valuable points is a godsend. Shakermaker you DO look a bit like Mullin perhaps you should do looky likey stand ins !
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:thumbsup:[QUOTE=shakermaker;694991]Paul Mullin clearly had nothing to do with this deal except for helping out the club's financial woes by going on loan.
Has anyone seen the Lancashire Telegraph from last night? Paul was joking about not letting Jimmy pass him in the scoring charts for too long. That article will have been put together on Thursday. Come Friday he wants a kick-about at Wembley in a naff kit? Anyone who believes that needs their head feeling. The official statement on Paul leaving comes from the business side of the club, not the management. The management put together some words through gritted teeth about Michael Symes and there passes another day at Accrington Stanley. Paul Mullin gets better every season. His presence is immeasurable and invaluable. This leads to him being marked and targeted with greater hostility as the season wears on. To see him score any is an achievment with the batterings that lad has to take. His passing and positioning have improved greatly in the new year, and at this rate I'd envisage a one year extension onto his current deal. Perhaps a hint of sentiment there. We've lost of our linchpin on loan, we haven't had time to learn a different style of play (let alone look forward to one), and we have brought in three duffers. The team are going to need all our support this afternoon. Another good post Shaker :thumbsup: :) |
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From their threads. Where have we heard it before?
"It doesn't matter how good you are, you can't score goals if your team mates don't create chances for you. Mullin was restricted to one snatched 20 yard volley yet he took up some great positions and made countless well timed runs into the box that came to nothing because the standard of crossing was abysmal. On another day he might have had two or three, but that's football." |
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Peeps, stop weeping and bleating. We won today with a team that is looking younger and hungrier. Get behind 'em. They played good today. That's what matters. Talismans like Mullin will come and go and we will have others. So come on ...we're on the up. Get your season ticket while the offer's good.
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I'm with Cashy on this one. As stated ealier , the team played good today, not brilliant, but ok. They started tentatively, not surprisingly but given good support they'll do good. The king is dead and all that. All I would say to K-P is that he's already pointed out that Mullers is 35? Even if he were to complete his contract (another 12 months) , how many games is he gonna realistically play ? Everybody has to move on, don't they? Burnley still exist after McIlroy.....MU after Charlton & Best......Preston after Finney
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reamer... why dont well sell kenny arthur then.. or anyone/everyone else ? if its all about get rid and survive? what about keeping good players in case you need them... isnt that an option.... yes hes 35 and i would wonder how much steam he has left... but my worry is/was/is the rest of this season..
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The post-Mullin period got off to a great start yesterday. Let's move on. We've lost players before and we haven't crumbled.
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One of the busiest threads of the season..all these people wanting to talk about it but you want them to stop.. try not to take this the wrong way but...my arnt we feeling important :)
I say let the people posting decide if they want to stop... the thread will slowly sink to the bottom of the page and off to the land of the fairies when the people decide theres nothing left to talk about... not when you feel its time. we lose a player of paul mullins ability for no good reason other than he wanted to go.. opinion is divided and i say the club should ahve said NO and kept hold in case we needed him. I say the club is far more important than pauls needs. haha but thats all OK becasue we won a game... what a nice simplistic world that is :) |
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K-P...try not to take this the wrong way but...you need help :rolleyes:
Slerpy, thanks for the PM and I take your point about experience/youth balance but the team deserve credit for the way they played yesterday with everything seemingly stacked against them , they pulled off an excellent win |
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Everybody was a little shaky before KO and when we went 1-0 down the usual shower of s***e who are currently on loan to the Clayton End from the cowshed were all cackling and moaning, but I thought from then on Stanley did'nt sit back and give up like they usually would and on a few occasions looked quit dangerous atacking. Paul may have been Mr Accy Stanley, but no player should be bigger than the club itself and there are plenty of other players to play:cool: :dummy2: |
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