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I actually meant that we should move on as a body of fans and as a club. If people want to live in the past in the hope of maybe reversing what has happened, then I'm not going to try to stop them from doing that. Feel free to stagnate if you so wish, but I'd rather move on and look at what's going to happen next.

We're not safe from relegation yet, but we're getting nearer and nearer. It'll take a herculean effort from the likes of Chester to catch us now, although I won't be relaxing until it's in the bag.

Next season will be a new start (in a lot of ways), so I'd rather concentrate on that, than on one player who's no longer with us.

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well said tin monkey on stanley on:)

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Not sure if this has been posted before, apologies if it has, but I found this an interesting read, especially McCall's take on the reasons for Mullin's loan.

Bradford City | News | Breaking News | Breaking News | Paul Mullin set for Vale debut

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So are we to take it from this that it was the club and not the players decision????

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If it was, so be it. It makes financial -(and football IMHO)- sense.

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Your guess is as good as the next mans, however, it does add another dimension to the debate.

Very true, but it would be nice to be told the 'real' reason..............I know thats a big ask coz we are just 'fans'!!

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If this is to be believed (I do not doubt the poster!) ......


Then why did the club/player not take advantage of previous offers from clubs much better placed - Dale/Shrews??? And why was Mullers (Allegedly) talking about catching Jimmy in the goal charts only a couple of days before??

With all that is going on re-raking in the cash before end of tax year, it does sound like it was more the club trying to cut the wage bill - along with the returns of JP Kissock/Kallum - which is all good and well, because as people like Cashy have said nobody wants a repeat of '62. But if this is the case WHY can somebody from the club not come out and tell us this? Do we - the supporters mean that little to them??? :confused:

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Truth is Mullin did want to go to Shreswbury, it took a big contract to keep him at the Crown

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Fair play then Willie !!!! If that is the case then sobeit.. :(

P.S. Sorry for misspelling your name in my "C*ck up" of a post about Lindfield :o:) Much too much ale.......

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wouldnt it be a refreshing change if the club was to actually tell us whats going on instead of treating every single stanley fan like a 7yr old who wouldn't undertsnad ....

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my twopenn'orth on the Mully issue is good luck to the guy.

Mully has given us 9 years worth of exemplorary service, having missed only 10 games in the period. He is a player who gets battered every single week yet still gets up, dusts himself down and gets on with the game. He doesn't moan, he doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and he doesn't get himself yellow or red cards. He bleeds the red and white of Stanley and was dearly looking forward to his testimonial year.

It has been said by many that if Paul had more pace he would surely have gone much higher in the game. Therefore I don't begrudge him the chance to play in front of big crowds in a big stadium with nice facilities.

The big contract that Willie Miller describes was no doubt the two year contract that he was given. It was a bigger contract than the club had wanted to give him and Shrewsbury rightly came in to offer him what we were dragging our feet to do and what Paul was worth. Shrewsbury wouldn't have been a big enough club to have tempted him from Accrington on a similar deal.

The club could and should have refused this deal on the grounds that relegation is not yet a distant threat, but yet we still have to do what we can to balance the books, and a pay as he plays deal plus the lack of his wages will probably free up around £30k - money we need (it will pay the entire wage bill for a fortnight). If relegation was still to materialise then £30k will of course be a drop in the ocean. But if one man is the difference over the nine games that remained then it is a poor state of affairs.

The more realistic problem will be Mullin's as and when he returns (which is more than likely). Will we have learnt to cope better without him? will the free flowing attacking football have returned and improved to a level where he isn't required?

It would be a tragedy to the memory of his career with us if he was to see out his final year as a bit part substitute - but it would have been of his own doing.

My problem with it all is that I want to remember his career for all the good things - and not for him wanting to taste life at a bigger club for a few weeks. Willie Miller mentions players such as Grimmy (who left three times) and I would use Paul Beck (who left twice). A decade and a bit on from those players and we only remember their 300 plus games and the Beck hat trick against Gateshead etc - the good times. Mullin will be remembered for those moments, just the same as the others, regardless of the postulating of some people. The club will of course continue to hide the truth of big stories from us and it will continue to tell the fans only what it wants them to hear. Protests will come and go, fans will come and go but ASFC will live on without them and without Paul Mullin.

Personally I think he only went to give Jimmy Ryan a chance of Player of the Year :p

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Yer where doing alright rob until you started pulling figures out from the clouds :)

100% agree the club shouldnt have agreed to it ..its ok saying it worked out well.. the club didnt know that at the time. IF and this is a big IF theres somehting we dont know then why not tell us... none of our business i guess :(

As said before.. given his age and the reason he went.. why would he come back.. cant see it myself and its a crying shame it happened like this.. I hope he gets what he wants.. he did his bit and now its time for him to get summat out of it before its too late I guess... if anyones passing messages on then mine would be.. Good luck number 10 (in joke)

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which figures have I pulled out of the clouds oh knowledgeable one?

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figure me and you know nothing about ... unless yor erics lovechild and he tells you everyhting.. hmm actually... hmm well are you ? :)

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I assume this is stratospheric (geddit? works on two levels http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...ons/icon12.gif) figure you think I plucked out of mid-air?

Wages of x amount paid by Bradford from now until (potentially) the play-off final (9weeks) plus a figure paid out every time he plays (potentially) 12 games. It's not rocket science to work out that it could probably free up around 30k. And we haven't discussed win bonuses or goal bonuses yet

Now apologise for your tone of typing camera dude

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For you to get the answers wouldnt you ahve to know what wages he is on.. Or are you going with mabs dream about 2k a week?

Truth is you have absoloutly no idea what it frees up.. hence my comment

aaaw come on.. if I did that then I wouldnt be me would I :)

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:)sorry kp i agree with Rob on the money side of things :) and no be for you say it again i haven't banged my head again and a figures just popped up:p:rolleyes::Dim sure im right in saying that after the shrews and the dale came in for him paul was givern a pay rise each time so there for my guess of 2k awk wouldn't be far of the mark with bonuses thrown in:)

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But you dont know what the starting wage was.. you dont know for sure he was given pay rises or for how much....

You both dont have whats called a base figure.. so how can you add to a figure you dont know and come up with another figure..

I dont know how much he was/is on .. but then again I aint posting on a messaegboard telling the world he gets 2k a week ...

sack the fairy mab.. she is giving you false info :)

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it wouldn't be fair to discuss someones wages on a public forum but I know what he was on before we went full time. As he would have to give up his full time accountancy in order to become a full time footballer then any pay rise would take him to a good level of income. Plus a goodly rise after the Conference win, plus a probable rise after previous bids. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on a lot more. And I am sure that he had a clause in his contract a while back that stipulated he must be the clubs highest earner.

Truth is you're right I don't know but neither do you, and I am a lot closer to the figure than what you are. I do know what Bradford are paying though lol

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So your discussing it and even giving out figures..


as does the world and we all know what they where offered to go full time and why most turned it down.. it wouldnt cover most peoples wage they already got let alone the added bit for playing.. How do you get from that to 2k?



hang about... the story at the time was that paul could afford to take a drop in wages and did it in order to take his probably one chance of full time football and hopefully football league.. hes not short of a few quid ... well he wouldnt be on 2k a week would he hahaha



hahaha where did you get that from... i aiont saying its not true.. i suppose anythings possible.. but i find it a bit ...oooer out there.. your sure are you? but not 100%



eeerm i havent given any figures.. all i ahve done is question you and mab as to where your getting yours from.. seems to be a mixture of fairies and clouds from what i can gather..

its all guesswork... you havent really got anything other than guesses.. the nearest you ahve to fact is...i am pretty sure ...

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the point is Tony is that you pull apart a perfectly good post on by spouting sh'te and banging on about clouds and fairies when you aint got a clue what people know or don't know. The figure I put out was an approximation, it didn't say this or that, you are the one who keeps bringing it back up (as you usually do) and cornering people into responding by inferring they are talking crap (as you usually do). Throughout the threads you seem to be able to pick on a post and your replies come across as attacks. EVERYONE comments on it. Yet you are one of the first to go on other forums calling Accy Web for its negativety. You are one of thee most negative around (not you personally but you turn the threads negative)



(macca ducks under tin hat and fully expects a post back saying something along the lines of oo err no need to get all defensive)

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well there isnt is there :)


my god.. i cant believe your taking all this seriously.. if i thought it bothered you i wouldnt even reply mate.. .. i do believe the figures are ficticious or whatever its called... but crckey mate.. its only a messgeboard.. in real life we wouldnt even be having this conversation would we... its not even important is it? theres nothing we can do bar chew it over..


i smile when i am posting... i aint upset angry or trying to be nasty... but i do like to get stuck in... stir it up a bit.. get things going..but you already know that ..and to this day i find it incredible how serious some folk take it... i didnt think you where one of em ...

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this will make great reading in the book the whalley years...:)will the truth ever come out..:)

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there was no need for your initial response IMHO.

People respond to you because they feel they have to if you are questioning what they have said, or if you are ridiculing them, which you do

Re-read page 12 - you put four posts in a row having a go at four different people. Why?

You dig your own holes.

Is it inconceivable that our consistently best player for the last 9 years was costing the club up to 2k a week? gross wages, employers NI contributions, bonuses.

on page 12 you state that Paul doesn't need the money - on basis do you reach that conclusion? do you how much his mortgage is? car insurance, gambling bills?

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thats one area we can agree on, i said that, mcr admin i think it was also did, so thats a cross section of owd n young, that think that way.

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what everyone should just agree with everyhting you post?

oh my god.. you mean its the way i replied?

look rob.. its a messageboard.. dont treat it like real life mate.. how many times have we spoken in real life.. am i anything like i am on here.. nothing like it...and you know that..

your obviously having trouble seperating the two so i will stop now :(

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why be somebody different?


:(

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99% of the people on here are different in real life... 20 years on the internet i have met hundreds of people from online and none of em are like they are online.. its just the way it is.. some of us understand that... some dont ...

seeya tommorow in the land of 3d people, fresh air and alcahol :)

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Hello Hello

Macca dont forget his hairdressing bill!!

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still smell accy bull **** read all you can from papers one on ones with m8 and still come to SACK THE BOARD AND HAVE A FULL CLEAN OUT AND GET SOME ONE IN WITH FOOTBALL LEAGUE IN COME ON AND SHOT ME DOWN

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as southern reds just been reading this thread n now gone, would i be right in thinking "Tell Em Sod All" is the order of the day?:D

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If that did happen jc jb and all the top players we let go may well still be here and in a play off place

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On the back page of the LET today it says

Mullin: i've left with reds safe.
Paul Mullin belives Accrington Stanley are virtually safe from relegation and he would not of left if he thought otherwise. 35-year old Mullin says a promotion chase was too tempting to turn down. "Its was difficult decision and it was a wrench to leave, they should be safe and it would take a small miracle for them to be caught. i think they've got enough ability not to struggle without me, if the club hadn't got a few wins and the financial situation hadn't been the same, the move probably wouldn't have happened." and on the inside pages there is a full picture of Mullin playing for bradford it just looks wrong.

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Ominous how many times stanley are referred to as 'they' and not 'we' isn't it?

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To be honest.. what else could he say? . Truth is before the exeter game (when the deal was done) we where far from safe.. now we all breath a little more easy.. But I dont think paul has anyhting to defend himself for.. Its the club who let us down by agreeing to the move without knowing for sure we are safe.

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I have to agree - and disagree with most - Stanley were/are safe,:) I could not forsee us being relegated with Chester and Grimsby being in the position they are in at the moment. As for financial situation ? As posted by many on here, I doubt that anybody will ever know :confused::confused: The bit I can not get my head round is this "Promotion Chase???" Do not really understand that one - he has had recent - successful - promotion chases with us, what could be better than re-gaining League Status with "Your" club, unless he is a Closet Bantam :rolleyes:;)

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agree with yer first paragraph, was telling wynonie n co before the kick off i felt they were safe, the last bit Valarian i reckon a player of mullens age would be foolish to turn down the what will be his last chance probably to appear at wembley, would think that is most players dream, n he has certainly earned that chance.:)

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Fair point Cashy :) I suppose the only way they will get up is via play offs, therefore trip to Wembley and you are right none of us should deny him that opportunity :idunno: :)

Or what we should be doing is ensuring that he and the rest of the squad get that chance next season :D :wave8:

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Thats what coley said in his interview that he would like to keep most of the squad for next year as he thinks we have a good chance of play-offs or at least top half of the table. I agree with and and it would be good for Mullin to play at wemberly with Stanley. Shows the confidence is running high with Coley saying things like that.

Roll on 7.45pm

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seems like were singing from the same "Hymn Sheet" now.:)

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seems fair enough to me, stanley remaining a solvent club over-rides everything to me.:) be interesting to see how many, if any apply to go into admin before thursday.

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I pressume you mean the photo ?? Do not like it one bit :sick: Do like the bit about Mullers being back next season :D

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Stanley's Mullin looks to promotion push (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Hoping he can help us push on to promotion play-offs next year!
Aslong as we can keep all the current squad including lindfield on loan for another year and charnock than i think we can and another striker for when Mullin wants to go on loan again

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So much has happened in 7 days :- Came back from a dodgy offside goal against Exeter, Broke our duck against Darlo, 3 wins in a row, 10th clean sheet of the League season and possible new chairman ..... Just a week in the "Life and Times" of Stanley :);)

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To add to that! The Accy Web mafia aint posted anything negative since the friday that Mullin left! Everyone is thinking very positive! People are agreeing with each other!

Think i need to lay down! This board aint been this positive like since the conferance winning days

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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Nice one...........:D:D:D:D:):):):);)

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And now a Stanley player in the top 3 "Sky Goals of the week" :eek::D When will it all end ????:)

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:) manager of the month :):d

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Yes Mab :smokin: That would really be the "Icing on the cake" :cake:
"King Coley" Manager of The month :D:worthy::D Fingers crossed.....

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I hope Coley does get manager of the month for league two! He deserves it! 3 wins in a row, 13 out of 15 points! Would round off a good month which had a little hic-up when Mullin left and we thought that was it! Who votes for manager of month?

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Me for one !!!!!!!!! :D

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Haven't you all noticed, it's all got more positive since the Peanut left, with his tail between his legs again, following Macca's post, only (maybe) to return later with another different name? Not the first time!

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Please no! Kiss of death.:(

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Ditto!:(

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You may want to read that thread again .. Macca got upset at what I wrote.. so in respect of our offline relationship I stopped... But feel free to carry on sh1te stirring .. I am sure everyone appreciates it :(

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Looks like some of the Bradford fans are not liking Mullers at the moment!
Bradford City Football Club • View topic - Barry Conlon

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Unused sub and no chance of Wembley, might as well come back now.

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I have nothing against Mullin, but it's a shame the bloke has another year on his contract. I don't actually want him back now. It's time for a fresh start and going back to the 'Mullin way' would be a step backwards in my opinion.

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Weren't we still playing the 'Mullin way' today TM? Instead of Mullin being there to win the long ball from Kenny Arthur, the smaller players were just chasing the second ball from the opposition defenders. Lindfield understudied Mullin's role at times but for the main it looked like a Rugby Union kick off.

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We're at the end of the season now and I was thinking about next season. We did what we had to do this term, but surely we need to be looking for some kind of advancement of tactics for next season?

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We do I agree, but I think Mullin will be a valuable player next season whatever tactics we employ.

I don't think Mullin's game is limited to him playing the role of the lone targetman.

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i agree with T.M. think mullen will only be any value to advancement though if played midfield,certainly not up front.

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Who do you take out of midfield for Mullin though?

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Mulllin isn't a midfield player. He's never played there except for being shafted to the right wing (unconvincingly so) in a few late Unibond/early Conference games. There's no logic or evidence to say he'd offer anything from midfield.

He doesn't have to adopt a new position to play a different style. He's a striker, and still a good one. With seemingly decent wide players in the promising Chris Turner and a jumpstarted John Miles we can play a wider, more clever game instead of a hopeful hail mary.

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was he originally signed as a striker?:confused:

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Yep.

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thats funny, i don't know, but mate who has gone to all games fer donkeys years told me not so.:confused:

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Don't know where that comes from cashy. Always known Paul as a striker.
Rocky was signed as a midfield player (well, more 'utility' than anything, lol) about a year before Mully? Or maybe it's confusion with Paul's brother?

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nah it certainly wasn't shaker, i'll ask him to post when i see him.:)

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I agree with TM. I think Mullin's return would be a serious backward step. Let's face it, it was only after he went that we started to put a few results together.Thanks, Paul, for everything, but it's time for the club to move on.

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You are pretty shrewd for an old git, Stan - and the Bradford fans know a thing or two also, as per this typical comment on their forum:-

"Yes, no more big useless target men like Conlon and Mullin thank you very much, if you are staying Stuart

I got slaughtered on here by Northern and Northern Monkey after I criticised Mullin after his first game for us and for dare suggesting that the decision to bring him in would prove fatal to our play-off chances..I dont know what the thinking was for bringing him in as a like-for-like replacement for Conlon, but its plain to see the difference in style of play when we have started games without those two is staggering and we look a very good team at this level when we keep it on the 'deck'

I really hope Stuart stays and learns from this and re-builds a hungry, younger team worthy of our support next season"

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:eek::confused: Don't no where you get your stats from!! when we started stringing that run together ie(6 game unbeaten) paul played in 3 of the games ,macc away (w) county (D) vale (W) then went to bradford next 3 games ie exeter(W) darlo (W) roth utd (D) and sinces that run 3 loses and 2 wins.So in my book paul was apart of our winning run,not as you say after he left:rolleyes::)

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I think we'd be better off without mullers next season - we could do with his wages to sign up/keep other players. But we have him on contract so as long as he now has to fight for his place in the team rather than be the first name on the sheet it could allow us to develop new tactics, whilst still having the option of the mullin game. In other words we should be more flexible and less predictable - and might be able to change formation effectively during a game when required. Think paul may be regretting?

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Spoke to Coley last night at the O.S.C. do and he said that Mullers was coming back. I know that nothing is definite and I would not really expect Coley to say, (In a bar at an E.O.S. do) no he is not coming back, but he seemed pretty forthright in his reply. I for one would like him back, like his attitude and he is still able to do us a job (With the right players) :):)

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mullers is too slow at this level. now he has been a brilliant servant but as the song says the times they are a changing........thank you paul for your service but maybe a supersub...sorry but when you look from afar things become clear..

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He's quicker than most of our players actually.

Why must Paul Mullin be absconded for us to play a different style of football?! Mentals. It's John Coleman who manufactures the tactics we employ, it's upto him whether the long ball is played or not. I've still got full faith that Paul Mullin can do a great job for us in the coming season.

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Paul Mullin is a wonderful player at this level, next season he will put in his normal high level of goals.

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well if 4 league goals is a high level ya could be right.:rolleyes:

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This season he's got 7 league goals, 8 in total.
Scored with very little service & being marked brutally in most games.

He's missed a few sitters, but so do the best. He can clearly still do a great job for us.

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don't say that on profiles on fishy site shaker, says 4 league 1 league cup, on that premise is not high. far as i'm concerned been a great servant, but time to move on.

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Therein lies the rub, man of cash ;):D

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not really, my line of thought is simple, stanley IMHO have played a much better standard of football this season, rather than the old "Lump it up to Mullen" which i saw last term,i much prefer it n can see advancement if they carry on that way.:)

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He meant you got your facts wrong as you got them from the official website which is run terribly- hardly anything on there is kept up to date.

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You lost me at that point. I can no longer take anything you say seriously anymore. :D

As I said earlier, I have nothing against Mullin and I certainly hold no grudge against him for leaving Stanley. However, I do think that it's a shame that he still has a year left with us.

I know he'll be back and give 100% again, but I'd have liked to have seen what we'd have done without him.

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Damn... thought I'd slipped that one past!

I share the concern of Stanley reverting back to long ball football with little creativity from midfield, but I think if Coleman can resist that and start cultivating a passing game, Mullin will fit in well and get us a good ten goals.
It's also realistic to imagine Symes & Lindfield back at Stanley next season in some description. Mullin's presence in the squad can only be a good thing for them (and for Smudger if he's still here, doubt it though).

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my thought is stanley this season have the nucleus of a decent side,have played better football,therefore i have invested in a season ticket fer next year, i reckon if coley with sod all resources can produce a few more jems from the lower leagues, plus keep the gems he's got, certainly symes n linfield, then we will see a Top Half team next season, that given resources would be a great advancement in my book. as fer mullens return, am not sure a guy on more money (if thats the case)will benefit the squad in many ways, bottom line is, we all want stanley to progress, the only issue is the best way.:);)

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We will see that the season after next... :):)

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hey valairian if coley unearths some more gems, we may just see next season.:)

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You may just be right Cashy :) We will see :D

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Ask Coley and Bell. Both of them have said that Mully is not a striker. He may have been five years ago but not now. He has been a good servant to the club but now is the time to say goodbye. He is too slow, he won't be any use in defence because he cannot turn and has no pace. He has even admitted himself that he hasn't got much pace. He will always give 100% but unfortunately his 100% is not good enough for League 2. Thanks Paul but no thanks.

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Anyone at the Macclesfield away game? He lead the line, passed brilliantly and used neat skill in places. He knows his limits and uses his strengths to the full. For a player that wasn't signed to score all the goals he gets us around ten every season.

His last appearance as a striker was five years ago Jeff? He didn't score goals like this five years ago

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...itv-41897.html

edit: oh well, the video's gone. You know which one it is anyway.

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Yes Shaker, went to Macc. and yes as well as a great Team effort and display, Mullers was playing as well as ever! Agree with you all the way.. :)

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I think I know the goal you mean, the one where he swung his foot at the ball and connected with it for once, was it Macclesfield at home? As I said, he has been a good servant to the club, but it's time to stop relying on him. I've probably seen every game that he has played for Stanley and now he is not as good as he was, maybe it is him, maybe it is because we are playing in a higher league. I just don't think that he will be good enough for League 2 next season. He has no pace, he cannot turn a defender, he cannot run at defenders, he cannot kick a stationary ball further than about ten yards and the opposion know what he is capable of, that is just my opinion. You obviously idolise Mully and watch him through Mully coloured glasses and so have your opinion. Let's just agree to disagree. I hope he proves me wrong if he is with Stanley next season, but I don't think so.

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I completely agree that we shouldn't be relying on him, it can't do any good for the team.
And I'm not blinkered enough to deny that sentiment comes into my opinion.
However I think even without sentiment it's not absurd to think he'll give us a good showing next season and another ten(ish) goals.

Oh, and the link I intended to post was from Port Vale away. Sublime finish.

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All the goals are HERE

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Thanks Redash :)

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cheers redash great site.:)

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Sadly (or maybe not so sadly:)) I think there's always a great deal of sentiment involved when a player is approaching the latter stages of a successful career, especially a player such as Paul, who has been such a tremendous servant to the club. The fact remains, though, that footballers do not just go on forever and we have to accept that.

Paul has proved me wrong so many times and has lifted his game up that extra notch as the club has come up through the leagues. However, if we are brutally honest, the signs of age have shown this season. All Jeff's remarks above are, sadly, true and I fear that Paul's downhill trend will only continue next season.

I REALLY hope he proves me wrong yet again, but I feel we should now be looking at younger blood and it's sadly time to say a fond farewell to someone who has made an immeasurable contribution to Stanley's tremendous progress under Coley and Jimmy. Thanks again Paul - now come back and prove I don't know what I'm talking about! :)

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I think that Paul still has a tremendous amount to offer the club.

He is the ultimate professional, trains well, lives well, tries hard - if every other player was to follow his example we'd romp the league. I think that he is a crakcer to have around the squad if only for the younger lads to learn from.

Unfortunately though, I do remember the sad decline of Paul Beck. Such a talisman in his day but went on a season and a half too long. That said, he once came off the bench at 3-0 down to Hyde United (a good side that year) and scored a 15 minute hat-trick!

I think Mullers role should be from the bench and could be all the difference when defending a slender lead with ten minutes left - or to go 4-3-3 when losing by the odd goal.

Whether that role is commensurate with being the squads top earner (or as close as dammit (or probably not at all cos I know nothing and live in the clouds) is for the board to decide.