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Well to say I am slightly fuming is an understatement:

I received a phone call yesterday to say that the club had double booked the clubhouse on Saturday with a 30th!!!!!!!!!

Bear in mind I booked the room as soon as the fixtures came out for last home game of the season and checked again in Dec and again when a stag do was mentioned in another thread and was told yes we are aware that you have booked!!!!!!!

All the players, management and Directors were all attending and yet I was told this 30th was booked back in Nov... I felt sick :(

I was told they needed to speak to Rob and call me back. I didn't get a call by the time I left work so emailed Rob to find out what is going on.

I received a reply this morning with an apology and to try and sort it out.. the suggestion being holding the presentation night in the Crown. Rather than make the decision myself I thought I would ask people who are more than likely to attend what their thoughts are..

SO PEOPLE WHAT DO YOU THINK???????

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i think you got the room for free and the other people paid.. so you got (very wrongly) shafted...


my opinion..
keep to original plan or stuff it

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Hold it in the Oaklea upstairs if available!

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Can't blame ya for being mad especially as you checked only a few weeks back.
Hope they enjoy the 18th in the Crown :rolleyes:

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Harwood, I will leave it up to you.... sorry, but you have organised it and put the work in so will go with what you think... but got to say that this must almost be the final straw, if it's not messageboard links, it's silence over buy out's and if not that it's something else... would Coley and the players still be coming to the Crown????

Like K-P's reply though..:)

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MCR I have suggested Rob checks the Oaklea's function room to relocate the 30th birthday party as our numbers would be too many for there and to be honest our end of season do should in my mind be at the club

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To be honest I think this is the final straw, for me anyway... Yes all staff would still attend if it was at the Crown but personally I don't think it would work aswell up there, for a start there is no dance floor!! And the shape of the pub doesn't really give everyone an option to mingle well

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How, if it's been double booked can you be told to go to the Crown :confused: Thought you had booked it first and since then confirmed it...... :eek:

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My thoughts exactly... get the feeling its easier to let fans down than non fans down although I am presuming the 30th was booked by non fans!!

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Mine was a gut reaction.. I should ahve waited longer than 10 seconds before posting my reply.. I was amazed you had this done to you ... However i would rather see the event go ahead rather than no at all.

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Ok was just a thought, yes our end of season do should be at the club, How will the crown work where would the presentation be given? isnt that smaller that the clubhouse?

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At the end of the day, the supporters club booked the room first so should not have to move just because the club cocked up by double booking. The club should be contacting the people who have booked the 30th birthday party to tell them of their mistake & try to relocate them, even if we did manage to find an alternative venue at such short notice I doubt many of the players would be there.
I suppose we could manage to have it in the Crown if absolutely necessary and, as K-P has said it would be better there than not to happen at all but it's far from ideal, as all the trophies have been sorted the only other alternative would be to get all the players in the clubhouse after the game so that the winners can be given their respective awards, the negative side to that is that the clubhouse will need to be cleared early to make way for the people coming in to set up for the party.

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These things arnt done on purpose... initiial reaction is shock (to say the least) but count to ten take a deep breath and move forward.... To me there only seems two options... the clubs and accymads..

Make the presentations directly after the game
Use the Crown..

Neither is ideal but realisticly these are the only two options... either time for a public vote or time for the OSC to make a decision that we all agree they should never have had to make

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Am sure the 30th will not mind and extra x amount of people! If we bring the Coley-oke along with us! :theband:

have it on the pitch! does not go dark till about 8.30 and we have lights if he does!

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Best solution all round MCR.....Gets my vote... :D:):D



:theband::cheers::arty::wave8::wave8::D

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Can't have it on the pitch even if we wanted to... the clubs licence does not cover the whole ground as we nearly had an event that used the whole ground and we would have had to pay a few thousand extra for the special licence

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What a joke, to me accymad has the only solution above.:mad:

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DISGUSTED Lesley. You should stand firm and let the club take the rap off the birthday party. Every season the Presentation night is booked when the fixtures come out and the club should automatically KNOW the night is booked.

As an aside they did this to us two years ago if you remember right, and we ended up having it a fortnight after the end of season. It was not a flop but .......

tell em to relocate the 30th or they can @$%^ off

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I don't believe this one, seems to me the club don't half like shafting the fans:eek: although K-P said he only though 10 seconds before posting, well K-P I think you had it right first time, room for a free or room for no fee, no contest really is it in the overall scheme of things, money talks:rolleyes:

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Depends how many are going to the 30th. Room hire is only around the £40/£50 mark and depends how many people turn up and spend money behind the bar. I suspect the end of season presenatation do generates some dosh behind that bar. Of course the club are trying to have the cake and biscuit by moving it to the Crown :rolleyes:, and no doubt the supporters will go along with it because thats what football supporters are like, loyalty to the club. Was only talking to Cahy today and saying when it comes to customer relations football fans can be treated badly and they will still ramin loyal, wouldn't happen in any other business.

Hope the OSC get it sorted.

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dave.. yer not suggesting this was a long term plan by the club are you.. knowing they could get two full houses on the same night.. ...thats an outrageous suggestion ! :)

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Honestly didn't think of that one :D

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i don't its a professional football club run by RANK AMATEURS. that simple.:rolleyes:

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top and bottom of it is that the date went in the diary in June and would have remained there until now.

At some point a call has been received and whoever checks the diary will have asked the powers that be who will have said 'sod the Supporters Club'.

If you have to move it then cancel the thing entirely and mothball the Supporters Club until attitudes or personnel change.

IMHO

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Grrrrrr I have just spoken to Stanleymad on the phone and she has done a massive promotion drive aswell as me doing so too and its just not on.... and tbh I don't think the 30th would be right happy if people are gate crashing thinking its the end of season do and they spend half the night telling them it is elsewhere!!!

I def think the 30th although I have every sympathy for them should be relocated

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I think burtons window will be full if that happens

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Hmmm my coddled brain just isn't computing that...please explain :confused:

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What happens to anybody who was going to be bringing their children along, licensing laws I would have thought are different from a private function facility to a Pub? :confused:

Also can you charge people to come into a pub? :confused:

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Means Tony will show one cheek in each window if it happens :)

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good points pendle..

HR ...have you never heard the saying.. if you think something has no chance of happening.... "If that happens - I will show my bare a*** in Burtons Window"

I would think a lot of people would be thinking its not gonna happen..

Aaaw come on.. its not an uncommon phrase :)

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never mentioned me...just in case :)

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Sorry I should have got that easily but in my defence my head is pretty mashed at mo!!! :o

Have to agree Pendle red raises some excellent points. I had thought about the charging but not the children situation!

I must point out the club have offered to pay for the DJ as compensation but this is about putting money into the club not taking it out!!!!!!!

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The other thing is this is the one night a year that everybody can come together, staff, players and fans as one and celebrate what is bigger than all of us but what brings us all together.................

ACCRINGTON STANLEY!!!!:)

It should be one of the highpoints of the season

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Well maybe it is going to take a load of people to contact the club and tell them so...

I am trying...honest! :(

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Well I think it was and I'm currently preparing an e-mail for the local rags and Whalley and Heys, BLOODY TINPOT.:(

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Still havent calmed down yet!!! Its pathetic that the club cannot keep track of its own blumming diary, after i have been witness to many attempts by HR to make sure the date was kept clear & the reassurance given to her regarding any concerns to make sure that this wouldnt happen! The OSC as a unit go to lengths to make sure this particular nite is a success as has many a time, to least try to put money back to the club. I think we have been kyboshed as habit this season but my own opinion even after an hr contemplation.

Just done a big net publicity stunt ensuring the word is spread & a want of a good nite by all..........................& then a very unproffessional stunt like this is pulled i hope the person responsible for booking the event should be brought to book immediately! At a time where we cant afford to lose fans & income! Fuming!

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Why didnt the member of staff who picked up the phone to the person who was organising the 30th check the diary and what would of been happening on that date? Its a football club , did they not realise this is the last home game of the season and there would be always fans in the clubhouse and obviously a supporters club event!

The people who are attending the 30th are probably not even all stanley fans! But the club would rather let down the current fans who attend the clubs games then people who dont! This is going to turn alot of heads and doubt the club alot which will then inturn put them off season tickets etc!
The club should now, if they had the bollocks , ring the people who organised the 30th and tell them that sorry they have double booked a big event however they will pay for the buffet , dj etc in compensation and will try and will try their very best to locate them somewhere else asap.

Disgusting tbh! Its not as if the supporters club quickly booked this event , its been booked for ages!

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Double Post , Please Delete.

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WE SHALL NOT WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED, WE SHALL NOT WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED ..... to the crown or anywhere else or another nite, time etc ..... the OSC's PRESENTATION NITE WILL NOT BE MOVED COS OF A CLUB FLUFF UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well my protest song - to add to the many this past few months :rolleyes:

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I for one agree with that a chance to talk to the players about the season and have a laugh! :) Bringing everyone together as a club for one night of the year!

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Actually, got another plan. We delete this thread, harwood red pretends she didnt have the convo. And both sets of parties turn up on the same date and time and see what happens! and what the club has to say about it! :D

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Might be worth a try :D So first thing to do is contact a Mod !!! ;)

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As funny as it sounds ( and I did laugh at the prospect of it :D ) HR has too much respect to delibarately spoil somebody's birthday do. Maybe a better idea would be for everyone to have a whip round and let her run the club :)

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This is shambolic, no way to run a business.

Me and the stag do guys are 110% behind you at the OSC, and was planning to watch the next premiership match in the clubhouse, obviously we need to find somewhere else now. And we drink and spend a hell of a lot. The club's loss.

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Sorry to hear of all this Harwood Red its a complete shambles but not a surprise really, it must seem like a kick in the teeth for you loyal supporters.

Glad I wasn't the one who was having my function cancelled I would be banging a few doors down :mad::mad::mad:

Hope you get it all sorted one way or another.

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Your still having your stag do there aren't you Mr. Matthew ?????

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Sorry to hear about yet another clanger dropped by the Club, can't even offer you guys the cricket club as it's our pre season bash.:(
If I was you Lesley I wouldn't take no for an answer, tell them to sort out the mess as it's their doing and as has been suggested, tell them if it isn't sorted to yours and the OSC's satisfaction you will knock it on the head . They are cocking up left right and centre at the moment, the threat of no supporter's club might just make them sense!
A painful and expensive lesson to learn the hard way Mr W !:rolleyes:

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Cheers lindsay i fully agree with what u say, definately doing a good job of upsetting the very people that support the club & put money into it week in week out, not boding well at all, imho i wish the takeover would happen soon & then business can be sorted out properly.

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If the club are seriously suggesting that our own fans are shafted to a less suitable venue, then I would suggest COMPLETE dissolution of the OSC's link with the club.

This is the latest in a very long line of showings of disrespect from the club towards the OSC.

The club does not deserve the benefits reaped from the amount of hard work that people such as Leslie, Mel, Rob and so many others have put in.

The club must not allow the relationship with the fans to be compromised any further, and most definitely make other arrangements for the 30th birthday party.

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I think we all know where the club's priorities lie and clear communication, honesty and respect aren't exactly high on the agenda; if my cricket club treated me like this I would tell them to stuff their membership and go elsewhere. I really feel for the guys who do all the work for the OSC, a thankless task at best but this is the final straw surely?
Vote with your feet if the Club don't sort it out for you, you really do deserve better.:o

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Its so heart-warming to receive such positive & supportive comments for the osc & the event:D Hopefully we'll see what we can do, i await & hope the club comes up with a better solution soon preferably asap or tommorow with immediate effect!

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Not long been in from work and just had tea and come back on and have to echo stanleymads sentiments and say a big thank you for all your kind comments and support.

I have spent the last 36 hours going from feeling completely sick, to angry to disappointment and the overall feeling of letting people down on an event that I know is enjoyed by so many TRUE stanley fans and many of their friends who come along too.

And it has been known in the past that we have made new supporters out of people from this event due to the welcome that we give new faces aswell as seeing many fans together having a damn good night

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Stickied this for you ! :)

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To re-itterate its not u, our chairwoman nor is it the fault of the osc or anyone bar the club & the staff responsible, many people here do realise how much this event means to the osc as organisers so no way are u accountable HR, sincerely.

One night for a pee up in a clubhouse for all fans, friends, players & families, manangement duo, back room staff, directors & staff alike to celebrate all things red & white & yet the club couldnt even book the date properly without hiccup nevermind host a pee up in a clubhouse!

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I suggest that you ask to have a look at the 'diary' Lesley, in order to ascertain how exactly they have managed to double book.

Either it wasn't in the book (and somebody has lied three times in saying it is) or someone has deliberately screwed us.

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Yes I am Valarian.

I'd turn up for the night do anyway. You have a verbal contracrt and they shouldn't be able to back out of it. Stand firm. "We shall not, we shall not be moved."

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I am truly gutted for all concerned with organising this annual event, and echo all the sentiments allready stated. The Club, has for a long time now done its upmost to alienate the OSC ( unless they are taking the cash of us of course!)and undermine all it stands for. OK so its not a huge SC, but it is a valuable rescourse and often the first point of contact to visitors to this site etc. Lets be honest, it would be missed without doubt..........granted I am not personally as active as I have been in the past, but do and will continue to support Lesley,Mel etc in all thier endevours.

With regards to the Presentation night I'm afraid that I am all for direct action........inso much that I would pull the night completely and get the press involved, its high time that the club was brought to book for its inept handling of this affair...........DISGUSTED :(

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i'm seriously beginning to wonder, following coleys comment last week, also the tax returns not being on time, the refusal to talk to a guy who is prepared to put big money in, the treatment of the OSC, ARE the club going under? so just don't give a stuff anyway?:eek:

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That is a worrying thought....................................

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the various silences are deafening ......

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Who know's what's happening at the club?
They are quick to ask for our help when the club is in need!
Do not even repond to someone who wants to give money to the club, could help Coley get in some players E.g Buy Charnock, and a couple of other players. I was looking foward to going to my first end of season party, to meet other fans and players, Guess i'll have to wait to next year.

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the reason i wonder U.K. i find it very hard to convince meself they are that stupid.:confused:

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I think it is unlikely there will be one next year unless it is organised by someone else or another group, although only stating that from a personal point of view and not of everyone in the OSC

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this was posted in the "good marketing idea" thread, post 35 dated 31-3-09

Please note in no way am I pointing a finger at Toni/lancashirelassz

just wanted to make a point

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Its not often I read every post on a thread, but I have on this one. There does seem to be something of an underlying current of incompetence within the club, you just don't run a business like this, after all the fans are the customers when all's said and don't, and with this coming on the back of the betting debacle, no wonder you lads and lass are, well to say the least, are just a tad upset

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I suggest we dress up as super villains and stand at the door...

Then whenever any 30th Birthday patrons come by, we all go RAAARRRGH!

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Why is everyone assuming that the OSC need to be displaced? Surely, if the 30 party was last to be booked, then it is the club's responsibility to sort it out by telling them that, due to an oversight, there has been a double booking and that they can no longer be accommodated. Stick to your guns, Lesley, it's the club's problem, not yours, so why should you help them to sort it out?

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that sums up what my opinion is.

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Just an update:

After talking to a few osc members, reading what has been put on here and alot of heart searching I have decided as Chair of the supporters club (maybe my final action) that if it cannot be held in the clubhouse this event will be cancelled and the trophies presented after the match as mentioned before.

It is then up to individuals whether they decide to still meet up for drinks in the Crown.

I decided on this action due to as others have pointed out, we did book the room first and the Crown is not a suitable venue for a do that includes children (licencing laws of the pub).

I have notified Rob Heys of this decision and he is still trying to see what can be done. I feel for the people who have booked their 30th birthday do but I think they will probably get fed up of the people coming in thinking it is the end of season do as it will prob not be possible to advise everyone that it has been cancelled.

PLEASE NOTE THAT AT THE TIME OF THIS POST, THIS EVENT IS NOT OFFICIALLY CANCELLED BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN A FINAL DECISION BY THE CLUB HAS BEEN MADE

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Cant agree more Lesley, think that has put it firmly with the club also to the idea that if it is indeed cancelled to presenting players after the match, no one gets a drink & we all walk out to the oaklea for a drinkies [whom have been a supporter as a business of the osc & have been more than hospitable for meetings with the exhibition & to fans for matches without any problem at all & welcomed warmly]. Hit where it hurts im afraid, that is the only way to get the seriousness of the issue towards fans highlighted big style to the club. Also want to make it known to the players whom win or not that the actions we take isnt a result of them or management duo concerned but the incompetant people behind the fiasco! We will celebrate the team asfc success to safety but not the workings of the club as a business/Google Page Ranking/customer relations etc. Just my thoughts on the subject, till club gets back to u lesley & hope for a better response to change my mind.

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Not a bad solution if all else fails... :):)

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sounds good to me Lesley.

If the event is cancelled then I (and someone else) will perform a separate draw for the web sponsored shirts - notification will be on here.

It's beyond a joke to be honest.

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its sad it has come to this, the only way to go though.IMHO.:(

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Just a question...

Has anyone from within the club had the honesty and integrity to confess to being the root cause of this gross incompetence and disregard of its loyal customer base?

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As an outsider who is close to the action I think you are correct HR.

As much as the club has battered you all in to submission, the hard work I see you all do shouldn't be underestimated. Don't make decisions about the future in haste, as Macca said earlier in the thread, there are options to give you all a break without seeing that hard work go to waste ;)

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the club will sort it out.. :)

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: love yer sense of humour.:D

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They couldn't run a bath.

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the club WILL sort it out

Loweiy

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they shouldn't have to sort it.

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Hope you get it sorted,I have read through all the posts on this thread and cant believe how you have been shafted.IMHO I would have though the OSC should have priority over any bookings anyway.Just a thought whose 30th is it?Some relative of a staff member?Like I said just a thought :)

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pretty sure theers a sign outside the crown ...live band this sat...

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The damage is already done, if they can sort it, it will be damage limitation only.:(

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K-P and Loweiy have said the club will sort it out but as of now 8.15pm I have had no contact from the club so if they know something I don't please can they let me know!!!

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If you don't get the desired answer from the club, you are most welcome at your next door neighbour, Accrington Cricket Club, after the game. We are playing Todmorden CC in the Lancashire League version of the Charity Shield. The bar will be open until late, and a friendly welcome will be extended to all.

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Yep, all more than welcome at A.C.C, we may even let you sit on our lovely new seats!:p Pre season do in the Club after the match.
Hope you get it sorted at the Club, but it's not looking too optimistic.:(

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:mad::mad::mad::mad: Its now looking not good at all, the club have been given every chance to respond, 2 days to go to saturday & not a word, unbeleiveable!!! The thing is the stupid club dont get is that if the event is cancelled we have to do that soon & let people know for their sakes - not the clubs! Its left us all in limbo & its very unfair of the club indeed, seems its a case of take the crown or leave it, no disrespect to Mo & Tracey, but its not a suitable place for the event, so its looking very much like leaving it. All we can do is sincerely opologise to our many supporters, friends & members for any let down on behalf of the OSC whom are at the most very let down enormously by the very club it supports & never let them down as they have to us atm, is my strong feeling atm.


Love asfc the team - but not the club atm!

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They are seriously pushing it time wise for either party atm, i would of thought they would have by now in all hope.

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Sparkiologist & Lindsay - thanks so much for the invitation, its nice to know local sport isnt all marred by the same principle as the local footy one is atm.

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let's have a big crawl around all the locals - but not one pint will pass my lips at the club or the Crown!

...... and it will have a knock on effect.

Whilst I have been unable to spend my money at the games this season I have tried to do it in other ways. But that is over with now.

Screw the lot of em

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Unless you are E W or one of his cronies, then you have nowt to apologise for !!!!! :):):)

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anyway, I cant make the do. I've a 30th to go to!

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The next osc meeting is gonna be very interesting:rolleyes:


Officially Shafted Completely..............mmmmm can think of loads of OSC related titles :rolleyes:

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I don't remember inviting you Rob :rolleyes:

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Nope not even the initials lol wanna storm his office to rant at him personally :(

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Just had a thought, maybe this IS actually all MY fault and mistakenly booked it as a 30th and we really do have the clubhouse booked :eek::rolleyes:

alas that is just wishful thinking that I had been thick enough to actually do that :o

Can I also add thanks to the people who have sent me kind comments by pm and by karma, although this week has been a nightmare at least I feel some support from all of you on here

thanks xxx

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U do leskeyisms but not that bad :rofl38:

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:) licensing laws!!! if the crown is used for a privat party then im sure that children can go as long as they are with their parents' and a set time is agreed with the licensee ,aslong that the pub is open only for the people attending the party(TICKET ONLY)and not the general public.

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stop ass kissing n tell the truth.:(