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My friend in London has just rung
he is at the court
the case is listed in the winding up list
court 53
case number 5 and will start at 10-30am

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they will be live from the court on Radio lancs at 10.30 too

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Cheers mick live updates lol, so quite a bit the judge has to get thro ??

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If they are in talks with reps from tax dept it may not be heard at 10 30

Hopefully everyone there will be given enough time to say their bit to the taxman and reach an agreement before they go before the judge

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Right just had another call and the court has given stanley another 7 days to find all the money but thats it

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Thank goodness for small mercys - great news Mick

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Cheers

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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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7 days ...........can i last out that long again..............good news still a club if confirmed tho

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Cheers Mick.......

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Brilliant

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un confirmed atm tho guys im not whoopin till then :D but thanks mick & your source.

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Posted via Mobile Device 7 more days of spin and lies... But we are still alive. 7 days for us the fans to get rid of oneil.. Starting at 6pm today.

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rob heys on 2br at 11

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I think Stanley are expecting their payment from the Football League at the end of October, they have probably promised this to the taxman. Good news though so I can still go to Grimsby on Friday.

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YUp confirmed thank u Mick .....quicker than radio :D

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Means another 7 days of butt squeek is this going to be the truth this time tho.

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Great news now get it sorted at the top!!!!

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Forgive me for showing an interest in your clubs plight, but what will that achieve in the short term?

Surely ALL your energies should be put into ensuring that the money is found before looking for 'heads to roll'....

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Why the hell has the money not been accepted off Ilyas and Peter Marsden to pay off the outstanding debt? More mismanagement at the top? This could have been sorted today and we could all sleep easier at night. O'Neill and his cronies have got a share issue going so that has sorted out a sticking point with Ilyas so why not accept his money now? Yet now we have 7 more days of bum squeaking to endure. Thanks!!!

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MORE LIES THOUGH!


when this all comes out in the wash there will hell to pay. I would advise O'Neil to stay away from his own ground

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nothing on 11 o clock news .Are we really positive about this.

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If this is true, then its despicable..................can anyone confirm this is the case?

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£100,000 payment further £10,000 to be made later today

sos had more than in it???

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I apologise most profusely, Rob Heys has just stated on 2BR that the money will be paid by Ilyas if the club cannot raise the difference. If he is to be believed, the club will be sitting down with Ilyas and sorting out the details

:)

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not too much thought has gone into what happens next??

FFS!

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I heard that from Rob Heys on 2br as well. WTF!!! :confused:

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Think now thats where the fans step in.

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thought that myself

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I thought Ilyas had made his final offer and the club rejected it, or will he save the day... ?

whats going on?

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and me, but is this the truth,I ask myself ?

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sorry I could not hear Rob Heys very well as we are in wales. How much was the shortfall?If they were only offering £100,000 that is absolutely disgusting. Could anyone enlighten me please.

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OK Chaps and Chapesses, I'm Micks mate who was at the court. These are some of the notes I took:

1) Don O'Neil, Rob, Phil Whalley, Ilias Khan were present and met beforehand with the brief.

2) ASFC were about 3rd on the court list.

3) HMRC Counsel pressed for winding up.

4) The Judge was sympathetic to HMRC, to say the least.

5) A further £125K of debt has now accumulated outside the petition

6) Payment yesterday was £96K

7) £100K now promised by the PFA

8) Balance to be paid by individual settlements. Also Chairman of leonard Cheshire foundation to make donation.

9) Club asked for 14 days to make payment.

10) Judge gave 7 days, and that's it - final.

Sorry this is not my usual verbal eloquence, but I know you want to hear ASAP

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No probs Ozzy, you did have me worried for a second mate!!

As for Robs statement on 2Br, I personaly feel that He was sounding very upset, His voice was wavering and He seemed flustered................He is normaly fairly assured when interviewed.

I too heard Him say that they had paid just £100,000 with £10,000 to come today.......where is the rest of the money from the SOS appeal, or is the 'fundometer' not a true record of the amount raised?

They should be left in no doubt that there must be mass resignations IMMEDIATLEY, and NOT just those of O'Neil and Lazerus, I mean the board members aswell.

We have been thrown a lifeline by Messrs Khan and Marsden.....................DO NOT SCREW IT UP AGAIN.

All fans should now get behind these two guys and push for a 'new start' ...................starting at 6pm this evening outside the club.

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Thank you tealeaf....if known it was u would of whooped sooner lmao

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Probably upset cos he had to come out with it - truth for once.

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so more lies from the board stated £100,000 was paid not £96,000

now we have another £125,000 debt on top

thanks to khan marsden and Chairman of leonard Cheshire foundation for their support

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Don't know about a protest tonoght, think the fraud squad would be more appropriate :(

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96K..................thought 116K was raised ???

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Many thanks for that Tealeaf. Unfortunately, there are a number of items there - especially (5) - that make me even more worried.

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why the hell only 96K when more than that has been raised.....O'neill your nothing but a *************



and thats coming from someone who knows naff all about footy

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Thanks Tealeaf, The joint Chairs board and chief exc should resign on mass, after seeing this case through. What as happened to the monies raised on top of the 96000 which they have paid? It's a good job Ilyas was present, or we would definitly have no Club now. I can't believe the lies that have come out of the Club.

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To paraphrase O'Neill on Friday, "We're nine-tenths of the way there" ... utterly shameful deceit :mad:.

Thanks again for reporting the truth Tealeaf.

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it kinda proves my point that NOTHING has been put in by the board, all that money was put in by Stanley supporters

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Katie, Ilyas is the chairman of the Leonard Cheshire Trust.

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Probably gone to prop up Chester City :rolleyes:

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I should add that Rob, Illias and co were late in coming into the court and as such could not get a seat...they'd to stand at the back with their brief.

Any other questions?

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that says it all really Tealeaf

utterly disgraceful

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If we paid £96,000 yesterday and will pay a further £10,000 today, but now owe a further £125,000 that means ...


WE NOW OWE THE HMRC MORE MONEY THAN AT THE START OF THE SOS CAMPAIGN!!!


I was happy and relieved one hour ago, I'm going to have an ulcer at this rate.

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Maybe they were hoping that the loyal fans would raise the lot. Although I haven't contributed a lot just sponsored a couple of people it should not have been left to peoples generosity. They are extracting the urine, we must just hope and pray they get it sorted ASAP.

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Posted via Mobile Device At the fans forum a few weeks ago, they said they would be open and would give up all the facts as we went along. I was behind them, yet they have not done that in fact now agree that these 2 clowns must go. It stinks they way they have handled this situation

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Cheers for that, Tealeaf.

Just clear your desk, O'Neill and get out. :mad:

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So many questions?

Is the PFA money a loan or a donation?

Where has the extra 125k of debt come from?

I don't think there is any doubt that this is the end of the road for the current board of directors. Everyone of them should do the decent thing and resign immediately!

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Wyn, you missed....."and take the rest of your entourage with you"

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£308000 + £125000 = £433000 Total debt.

£96000 (paid yesterday) + £10000 (to be paid today) + £100000 PFA = £206000.

Leaving a total of £227000 to be paid within 7 days. If O'Neill, Heys et al are claiming it takes 4 to 6 weeks for credit card payments to clear we're knackered.

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does the 125,000 have to be paid at the same time as the rest of debt

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Time after time we were told that the dirctors wre putting in a significant amount of cash. Now we know they've put in nothing. GO NOW Mr. O'Neill.

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The same place as the rest of the 'promises' they gave I suspect :mad:

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hello everyone Ilyas here.

a very quick post as i am borrowing someone's computer, but wanted to post directly given the focus on this website. has accy web ever been so busy !!

Anyway, as we all will agree, The important thing is to focus on the club, not the individuals. we are safe today, and god willing, will put hmrc to bed as well.

I am going to be up in Accy tonight - hoping to drive up this afternoon. i will come up to the club and the vigil, and will be available for any questions. I was at the court hearing, as you all know, and will, as usual, be 100% transparent with the facts, and will answer any and all questions.

i love this club, as i love our town, with all my heart. Nothing else really matters does it ?

see you tonight if you are around. hopefully after 7pm. please someone save a candle for me !

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Do I wish I could be there tonight - work forbids unfortunately, but I will be there in spirit. Good luck to you all.

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thankyou and im sure there will more than enough spare candles for you

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glad ya can be up tonight illyas, whist i agree the thing is too focus on the club, the individuals who have lied n decieved the accrington supporting public are primarily too blame fer this debacle n to me must be focused on also or history may well be repeated, with respect cashy.

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At the Fan's Forum O'Neill told me that all the monies raised for the SOS campaign were to be put into a separate bank account. Why then has only £96,000 been paid when the SOS campaign has raised £116,000. Is there a separate bank account or not. If not then it can be proved that O'Neill is a LIAR as the Fan's Forum was recorded and his statement that there is a separate bank account will be on that recording. Personally I think that all monies have just gone into the day to day running of the Club and all that is left is the £96,000. If there is a separate bank account then show us the bank statement to prove this. O'Neill has said all along that Stanley would not fold, he probably knew that Ilyas would step in at the last minute and save Stanley. He tried to raise the money but didn't. More lies in the Telegraph today, it states that property has been mortgaged by the Directors to raise money, but the ba****** have done nothing and put nothing into the Club. All Directors should resign and interested business men with a bit of clout should take over, if any can be found.

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Maybe the Directors and the CEO will turn up in your place OO ??


AND A SINCERE THANKS FROM ME TOO MR.KHAN !!

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I, for one, would love to see their faces if they did show up, but somehow I doubt it. However, if they do, maybe Kipax or Sky sports news will have the pictures I want to see.

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No harm in admitting you need some help Illyas, will sort out a whip round for your own laptop :rofl38:

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Thank you for posting Ilyas, and thank both yourself and Mr Marsden for stepping up to the plate.

See you this evening :)

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Dear Mr. Khan, I've never met you, but thank you from the bottom of my heart. To receive so many knock baks and still step in at the last minute... words fail me.

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this made me smile, the only one to tell any truth

thankyou Mr Khan

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I've been trying to find the right words, but Teach you said them first!

Trying my best to get to the meeting tonight, but its not looking good :(

Hopefully we might get some answers, without the lies.

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Cant thank u enough Illyas, will be there to thank u personally, after all that has happened u saved the day, the club & my poor belly lol, consider a candle duely reserved:thankya:

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hello everyone Ilyas here.

a very quick post as i am borrowing someone's computer, but wanted to post directly given the focus on this website. has accy web ever been so busy !!

Anyway, as we all will agree, The important thing is to focus on the club, not the individuals. we are safe today, and god willing, will put hmrc to bed as well.

I am going to be up in Accy tonight - hoping to drive up this afternoon. i will come up to the club and the vigil, and will be available for any questions. I was at the court hearing, as you all know, and will, as usual, be 100% transparent with the facts, and will answer any and all questions.

i love this club, as i love our town, with all my heart. Nothing else really matters does it ?

see you tonight if you are around. hopefully after 7pm. please someone save a candle for me !


Illyas,what can I say! I knew you would be the man to save us, hope everyone else can see that now! Hope now we can get O'Neil and his crew out so we can get the ASSF in and have a club run how it should be with truth and dignity! Once again Illyas thankyou,thankyou I will bring lots of candles hope the wind is considerate unlike last night.

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Many thanks Ilyas... See you tonight..

Just wonder if Rob Heys would come too ?

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Its seems to me that the directors have absolutely no alternative but to accept the urgent intervention of Ilyas and ASSF. This should have happened ages ago as I have said including to the club and on these boards more than once.

I cannot see what other legal choice there is.

The interests of the company are paramount and the directors always have to act in its best interests and appropriately consider and take up all available sources of funding. Issues of control could never be allowed to get in the way of a share issue if that's what was needed. Who is not to say it was not? Who could deny that many more people would have subscribed to a £250,000 public share issue whose success was fully underwritten by ASSF had they known they were getting an equivalent full voting stake in ASFC for their money?

A week is not a lot of time.

If I was at the top I would be praying that Ilyas and ASSF can retrieve the situation.

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What a friggin joke...


And Ilyas..... a gentleman to the end... what a role model

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Has anyone heard a 'THANK-YOU' being spoken (However insincerely!) by D o'N or RH to all the Fans who gave and gave and gave again in their efforts to save Accrington Stanley ??....

Or am I right in assuming that this would be the last thing to cross their minds??.

Whatever the outcome this morning this pair of incompetents were bound to be seen as total losers, and from this date onwards....definately NOT TO BE TRUSTED where the affairs of Accrington Stanley are concerned !.....But at least they could demonstrate to us all that they are not also Ill-Mannered as well...!!.

'ON STANLEY!!!...ON!!!....TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !!'

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I wonder if anybody from the club will turn up. Maybe the bar staff can answer questions on behalf of D.O.N.

If all else fails, i've got some lovely lengths of rope in the garage that i could bring with me.

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I doubt the bar will be open :(:(

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I believe rob is the only one who we would not lynch.. Hope he could answer questions like Ilyas will ???? Come on Rob.

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ILYAS THE SAVIOUR!!!

Roll on 6pm tonight. SACK THE BOARD protest!!!

Go O Neill now, you LIAR!!!!

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Well said Yonmon I for one feel totally betrayed, the supporters of ASFC have dug deep into their pockets in these hard times and in my opinion have worn their hearts on their sleeves.Personally I was quite willing to dig a bit deeper and purchase a share in the club I love but now feel it was/is all a scam and I,m glad I put it on the back burner for a couple of weeks because I would have been really miffed if they had taken my money and done one so to speak.

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hope yer just speaking fer yerself simon.:D

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Going back to yesterdays interview with Rob he said "money has been transferred across from a few sources" or something like that,
The SOS fund had (supposedly) £116K in it in its own bank account, so not only are they £20K short it wasn't even in the same account :confused:
this just doesn't add up to me :mad:

Everyones calling for Don's head to roll, and rightly so, but i've been trying to read into Robs statement from today and my personal view on it is he's already gone, I don't think we'll see him again :D just hope I'm right
Reason - You all know how Rob talks and tries to convince you as he's talking, well he didn't on this one, If he knew he was staying he would have been his usual self, IE yeah yeah of course he's staying, absolutely, no need for any change,. he's doing a fab job etc etc,
Says they will be sat down later with Ilyas and Peter to sort it out, sounded like they were getting ready for an interview with their new boss to me.

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I forgot the £10K bit, wheres this come from at 10:30 in the morning?
Is that all our chairman could come up with I wonder :confused:

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lets have a good bruing to nite

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I really, really hope you're right, mate!

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Hello

Im a relatively new accrington stanley fan (prob about 2 seasons) but im just as passionate as you chaps, I love the club and have donated quite alot of money i dont have to help get us out of this hell hole we are in at the moment.

It seems to me from what i have read so far that Mr Khan is a genuine, honest person who wants to pump money into his own club that he loves and supports and the current "Fat Cats" at the top wont let him ? who has ever heard of a set of directors that wont allow a true fan who cares donating money out of his own pocket, THEN TO KNOCK HIM BACK !! Thats just bloody rilled me no end.

Mr Khan - I want to thankyou for being at the hearing and I know the Directors wont apologise so i will on their behalf for the way they have treated you. The sooner we get you in charge the better. Your a top bloke !

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:D:D:D:D:D 11 out of 10

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I think that the only thing the don has done wrong is bite off more than he can chew, my view is that he took on the club when nobody else would and tried to dig us out of this mess. Yes he has lied a bit but when people are put under a lot of pressure they do silly things. This happens in all walks of life, maybe he has learnt his lessons and will come out of the other side of this saga with everybody hating him but i think its a bit harsh thats all. Are people forgetting that eric whalley left this debt with horrendous miss management of the club and i havent heard a bad word said about him

thats all.

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He's not speaking for me cashman.:D

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You can't have been looking very hard then ....

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HMR&C
Wednesday 28th Oct 2009

Club statement
Accrington Stanley has been granted a seven day adjournment from the High Court to pay the remainder of the £308,000 owed to HM Revenue and Customs.

This morning the club made a payment to HMR&C of £96,000 with a further payment of over £100,000 to be made later today. Shareholders Ilyas Khan and Peter Marsden were present in court and have offered to make up any shortfall required to satisfy the the winding up order.


Is that not £196K?

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No its 96K :mad:

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Thats a typical statement from the club - I though Ilys Khan had given his shares away so is no longer a shareholder.

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Sorry, just noticed you had underlined them and added them up :D

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I'm still trying to sort all this out, Valairian. Where is this £100k coming from?

Is it from the directors?

Or is it the £100k from the PFA? Is this money from the PFA a gift or a loan?

I recall it being said that we already owe money to the PFA. Is this correct?

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If the £100k was from the directors, that would leave a shortfall of just £12k once the PFA money had been received ... clearly this is not the case. Ilyas has been talking about guaranteeing the shortfall of £112k.

Note that even though the the news agency story which appears on several news sites states that the directors are putting in £100k, this are not the words on the fishy site and nor are these the words that Rob Heys says in either the 2br or the Radio Lancashire interview.

Clearly, the directors/O'Neill/Heys haven't put in very much, if at all, and not the £100k that was promised several weeks ago. Maybe, they'd rather see the club go under than lose their own money ;)

In terms of the PFA, they paid at least half of the players wages last month. Not sure about this month.

I'm sure it will be a loan from the PFA.

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Sorry folks if I can't be more helpful. The acoustics in court 53 of the RCJ are not the best, and even worse when Counsel speaks from the back of the room. However, I'm pretty sure the 100K is PFA dosh, but whether that is a grant or a loan, I dunno. I suspect the latter.

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Thanks, Tealeaf.

Can I just say that your presence in court this morning and subsequent report were very much appreciated.