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lets hope so

it started with us and hannah then his brother came along and now its brothers g/friend and a couple of mates

lol well be able to run a minibus from clitheroe soon

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Forget the minibus, just order a double decker :D

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Here's an interesting concept:

BBC Sport - Football - Fans at Mansfield v Gateshead can pay what they want

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Just out of interest, why is it that we seem to get so many fans from the Ribble Valley area? I think it's great, but I'd be curious to know why.

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To keep the mileage down on the tractors :D

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yet another concept:

BBC Sport - Football - Free holiday for Northampton fans buying season tickets

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Bet that their ST costs more than £150.00 :rolleyes: :)

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Why not just reduce the price of the season ticket :confused:

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Oldham latest Club to offer up incentives:

Oldham Athletic | News | News Update | News Update | LATICS 2010/11 SEASON-TICKETS - FANS TO LAND £1MILLION JACKPOT?

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I reckon the club should bite the bullet if possible.............

£99 season tickets!

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different offer but excellent marketing:

Oldham Athletic | News | News Update | News Update | SEASON TICKET HOLDERS £5 TICKET OFFER EXTENDED

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This is a good idea Google Page Ranking and one I think that you have touted in the past - though maybe not you :confused: :)

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Old hat this one to be honest :rolleyes: It is usually Rumbelows or Rediffusion offering you your money back on your 60" plasma IF England win the World Cup!! :eek: :) :)

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It is something I have touted in the past, watch for something along these lines to season ticket holders of other clubs being available for Bury's home match next Friday night:)

It makes perfect sense for one off normally small attended games to try to put bums on seats or feet on terraces, it brings in extra revenue, helps generates a better atmosphere and increases the chances of bringing new people into the Club.

It's a no brainer

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That one I agree has probably been done in different guises but at least it is grabbing the headlines.

The end of this season will be a water shed for so many Clubs in terms of what has happened right through the Leagues already this season as we have witnessed first hand.

You can argue that perhaps we are now better placed than most Clubs in being debt free but sooner or later this Club has to stand on it's own two feet, now whether that's through cup runs, selling players on or generating more Season Ticket or Matchday sales it has to happen.

With Rovers & Burnely both possibly staying in the Prem they are going to be looking as they have in the past at catching the footballing fans in East Lancashire along with ourselves, somehow this Club has to compete and continue to grow!

Some of that may happen automatically for ourselves through possibly play-offs or automatic promotion, but the Club has to have foresight and an initiative that will help keep what they already have and what they don't in terms of people coming through the turnstiles, the public of Hynburn have to know there is a football club in their midst.

Perhaps the Club could work with the fans in coming up with ideas either through a forum or a working party made up of The Supporters Club, ASSF & Ultras to help form a framework to take the Club forward.

It can't do any harm for the fans to have a genuine input:)

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Agree :)

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Excellent idea and maybe a chance for Accy fans to reciprocate the support shown by Shakers fans to us earlier in the Season:)

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:) Hope it works for them!Its on the same lines to whats been mentioned on here afew times with stanley having rovers/clarets close at hand we should try it at one of our home games IMHO :) Thanks for the link Google Page Ranking :)

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Let's get on the phone and get em all claimed - then dump em!

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I have a shredder :D

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yah better save that fer yer premiership stuff dave.:D

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Don't you have somewhere to go :p

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Just to bring this back to the thread, we have 2 FANtastic opportunities coming up in the games against Burton or Barnet, in which to offer some sort of deal/incentive to have a good Tuesday night crowd!!! Come on club listen!!! :rolleyes: :)

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Free entry for anyone prepared to be topless for 90?

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Women only though.:D

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Just bringing this one back, in the vain hope that somebody from the club might realise that we have 3 home games on the bounce and apart from the Saturday one, I do not think we will have massive crowds!!:rolleyes: :) :)

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Tuesday nights game against Barnet - who will come on a skateboard! - sees us also in competition with:-

Tuesday, 30 March 2010
Uefa Champions League
Bayern Munich v Man Utd, QF, L1, 19:45 On Sky telly!!
Lyon v Bordeaux, QF, L1, 19:45
The Coca-Cola Football League Championship
Cardiff v Leicester, 19:45
Plymouth v Barnsley, 19:45
Watford v Crystal Palace, 19:45
Coca-Cola Football League One
Oldham v Brentford, 19:45
Coca-Cola Football League Two
Accrington Stanley v Barnet, 19:45

So it is really refreshing to see that the club have marketed this game, with thought of getting a good crowd down to The Crown, to help spur on the Team to 3 points :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sorry to the ones who did not realise, I AM BEING SARCASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Out of Order Joe..................Sarcasm is my job.:D

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Sorry Cashy :o :o :D

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tbh what we need is a big advertising campaign like rovers did with "taking back ewood"

cut prices and fingers crossed that will attract more fans!

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unfortunately i think the love affair with stanley may have reached its peak for the floaters, our best hope is the kids and we need some entertainment in home games by our boys to make them want to come back.

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Thought tonights game would have been a good opportunity for a kids promotion,as its half term to try and encourage the future support?? Unless something has been put in place?

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To me its all about taking oppertunitys as n when, sadly don't happen as often as it should.

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Does anybody else get the impression that, despite our current poor run, gates are showing signs of rising?

Wasn't that many Bulls fans on yesterday, 100 to 200 at the most, so with a 1,400 gate, there must have been 200 to 300 "non diehards".

As I said recently, there seem to be a lot more young 'uns on the Clayton End.

And just for a change, we're not finishing bottom of the attendance league (Barnet, Darlo and Macc are all below us).

Are these the first green shoots of increased interest...or is just me looking too hard for positives? :)

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What is next years gate price?
Still £13 for the clayton end?

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According to the Observer

Clayton End £15 walk on pre pay £15

Main stand £17 pre pay £13.

Is it me or does that not stack up ?

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Not to be negative WH, but I just do not see where 1400 came from yesterday :confused: I and the lads around me, always try to guess it on the day, none of us had it much above 1000 :eek: Do not know what you think?? But just did not look like a crowd, main stand had plenty of empty seats - not just because Loweiy was inside :D And when I looked around, even Clayton End did not look full :idunno: :idunno: :)

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Wants to be £15 and £10 on the day and £10 and £5 up front, if nothing else, the club would have more of an idea who was turning up - crowd size - and could the organise accordingly! What was the thing going on yesterday with moving the away fans from Cowshed, to Coppice after half an hour?? :)

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Regardless of the prices it should be, why is the pre-book price the same as the day price for the Clayton End ?

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Maybe we might see a more targetted approach with the new system when it is intorduced to ticketing?

The only stumbling block there is people who have no web access and perhaps just don't know it exsists outside the normal fans

I would like to see perhaps a targetted approach on clusters of games with decent reductions for families or individuals, maybe first two home games next season for a Tenner for an Adult and reduced rate for families etc. sort of a try then buy scheme where an option of a full season ticket or half season ticket could be offered somewhere between the price after May 4th and a walk on price for the rest of season that still makes it competitive and possibly attractive on the pocket.

The "ASFC REDZ" scheme is great for capturing the under 12's and is creating fans for the future but I would still like to see more at 12-16 year old age group as they are the going to be the mainstay and next generation age bracket becoming full adult payers or student payers.

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Dunno, Val, always find it difficult to guesstimate crowd figures. Thought the gate numbers were recorded on some sort of electronic counting system? Come on, mate, help me out, I'm trying to get some sort of positive vibe going here! ;)

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Mistake, hopefully!!

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Next weeks fancy dress at Crewe, will be FANtastic, of that I am positive :D :theband: :D

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The other thing I would like to see and there are signs it will happen is the Lounge given back over to fans and if the new stand happens moving the hospitality that way.

It would see with a few simple tweaks I am sure a lot more matchday revenue generated for the Club particulary before the game, where most people don't tend to arrive at the ground till 10-15 minutes before the game.

I would like to see home made food being offered in the Lounge to fans to have along with their pint, I have seen it at loads of away grounds and it generates income.

A really positive Marketed Approach towards Season Ticket's outside the Hynburn area wouldn't go amiss either, Lancashire Telegraph, local radio, seeing the Club out & about during the Summer spreading the word at fetes, galas, Agricultural Shows in the Lancashire area all usually cheap to have a small stall with literature and people on hand to help spread the word in the flesh.

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have already told ya what the score is- they are now telling the truth about attendence figures.:D

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I for 1 isn't happy about it! I work saturday's if quiet enough i can sneak off to the match, mostly can attend and head straight off to match - that would mean having to pay 2 quid more, would also kill off on spur walk ons. Certainly with the quality of recent games, floaters will go to pub instead for big screen's. I cant afford the season ticket no matter how good value it is, and im quite prepared to pay on gate which is gonna be a right mess around to try to get on for normal price a right inconvenience to workers on a sat am and price us out.
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so is new price now £15

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Booked in Advance Terrace=£13 on gate £15
Booled in Advance Seating=£15 on gate £17

Booked in advance from my understanding can be done via internet, by Phone or by person before the day of the game.

I suppose we also have to take into account revenue will increase with this from away fans, unless they are given the same option of booking online or via phone?

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The away end shouldn't be available on the ground plan when you book tickets online ;)

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That's fair enough not many Grounds offer up reduced ticket prices for away fans

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I think this season has seen n increase in home crowds? i'm sure someone will shoot that down if not the case.:) personally if so, i would suggest that the much better to watch football has been the prime reason. shame reverted back to hoofing of late.:rolleyes: that says to me theres summat to build on close season, if n its a "BIG IF" lessons have been learnt. i think if the management do, next season "Can" produce n average of around the 2000 mark, in conjunction with that, it needs the "Gods" to be much more pro-active in building bridges with the general public, if these things happen, then me season ticket will be money very well spent. "Heres Hoping":);)

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Last time I counted Cashy, we averaged just over 2000, which is an improvement of around 600, but, we have had the Friday games, in conjunction with all the S.O.S. fans, plus F.A.Cup Etc. So in truth it is hard to say, but the one thing that anybody with an ounce of football understanding must agree with is, that the football - barring the last few games - has been of a much better standard! So here's to next season :)

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If it is true that matchday prices are going up then I think this is a stupid idea. The whole idea of increasing gates is to encourage new fans to come on, how is that going to be possible by increasing the price? Plus the fact most walk ons will decide on a whim to come on a game rather than buy a ticket the day before, people have more important things to do than pre-order tickets. I think if this policy is followed through I would expect gates to drop and therefore revenue will decrease. The club need to entice potential supporters with probably cheaper prices, perhaps having a family ticket for £20 would help increase gates or keeping the current prices but including a free pie so that then they are likely to use the lounge and possibly buy a few drinks which would help increase the coffers. One final thing to bare in mind is that when you compare season ticket price to matchday prices for the season you normally get between 4 and 6 free games by having a season ticket. However the difference between these for Accy is around 11 free games, the gap between these should be narrowed by having matchday standing at £10 for adults and then the gap would be only 7 free games.

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100% agree. The hardcore is guaranteed - the walk ons aren't. Silly idea if you ask me but I suppose we'll just have to see next year. What we don't have access to is the full data of how many come in through each gate and this will be factored into the workings out. Away numbers will never be affected by gate prices and if there are 20,000 away fans a year paying the extra £2 it means we can in theory afford to lose 57 fans per game to breakeven. That's not enough! But then again we don't do the sums.

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I'd have to agree that, personal opinion, I think that putting up walk on prices up by as much as £2 is steep.

In my opinion it will deter floating support. Let's remember not everyone has the internet, the phone reservation mullarkey will probably put folk off and as for picking them up / paying for them in advance would certainly put off others. Personally speaking I'd have like to have seen one of the following initiatives deployed::confused:

1) Whilst the early bird prices are appealing, I ( for one)cant afford to stump up that sort of cash in one hit. Other clubs offer an option to pay in installments, so for example buying a season ticket (seated)after the 4th of May; and by paying in four installments (May-August, with the final installment due before the first home game) that softens the blow. £57.50 is a lot more affordable in four installments and the cost a lot easier to digest financially than £230 in one hit.:o

or

2) It would be an idea to offer a half season ticket with a slight reduction. I'd assume the club could do the maths on an acceptable figure / price for that, but lets say 13 games for £130 (seated). Not everyone can get to every game ( I for example can't do the Majority of midweek games due to work commitments) but an open "flexi ticket" (i.e. the tickets can be used at any of the 23 league games) may appeal to folk.:confused:

or even

3) If a season ticket from one of our neighbours is produced at the turnstile (or to police this better, produce it at the ticket office ) Like Bury have tried once this season,offer a reduction to these folk. Not a substantial one, but say £2 off the pay on the day price. After all they've already paid for their own season ticket.:o

The club has tried to their credit to entice more folk in (i.e. the family bundle, letting all under 12's in free, membership scheme etc, etc) but I think it would be prudent to maximise every opportunity. My apologies to the hierarchy, if somebody has already thought these ideas through, maybe they might think that these ideas are not financially viable.

By all means offer this walk on incentive to visiting fans, maybe it would entice a few additional visiting supporters to follow their team at the crown, but we all know that the facilities aren't the best and charging £17 to sit and £15 to stand paying on the day doesn't add up to me.:confused:

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I would have been even more radical.....

Club works out a figure they need for a £10 admission, say minimum every week 2200 fans.... It openly appeals to the town to maintain this figure & the fee stays at £10....

If it doesn't, the club can just amend the prices accordingly. If it does then we have a few more punters. Going one step further the club can have rally days with a figure set & the next game is £8.....

Nothing to lose, slightly complicated but do-able & unique

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Just as an afterthought......:o

To expand on the half season ticket idea I mentioned earlier.....

Use the 13 tickets before a certain date and have a top up book of an additional 5 games for around £50 quid when you produce the empty half season ticket ???:confused:

Rovers have their 3-ticket bundles for certain games, why not elaborate on that idea??? Admittedly the Premier League cash they get helps them offer such packages, but thats what we as a club are up against.:o

It's thinking outside the box that we need to up the number of fans. Encouraging more folk to stump up cash up front is always going to be difficult, but I don't see how upping walk on prices will work.:(

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Jase,
I agree.
Similar to Bradford and Huddersfield who had minimum season ticket sales to get the price down to £100.

Im sorry, but the club needs to wake up to reality.
£17 for league 2 or £20 to walk into rovers and watch category B and C premiership games.
To 99% of people, local club or not, there is no comparison.

Until admission is a standard £10 and people on the street know its £10 and always £10, then you wil not encourage floaters.
Its fine to bump it up to £20 when Fulham come to town, but league 2 football for more than £10 is expensive.

I cant help but suspect the price hike is to benefit from away fans, although they are forgetting the nostalgia of coming to Accrington Stanley for most of the teams in the league has now worn out. I expect away attendances to drop of next year.

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A slightly fuller ground is a better day out too

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Would that 2200 be home fans ?

What about extending the terms of the season tickets so that every season ticket holder can always take a friend ( or even several friends ) for a tenner per match. That way the home crowd walk ons increase while still getting the full dosh from the visiting fans. They could even have a meeting point before the game for season ticket holders with no mates :)

season ticket holders feel more special and will probably actively encourage people to go with them.

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All good ideas on this thread, Carpon perhaps it may be worth asking the Club if it is possible about paying in installments?

It is something that if the payments were made by standing order from say end of April, to include May & June it may be viable?

Perhaps not ideal from the Club point of view in terms of not getting the money all in one hit but if they got it before the Season Tickets were produced in say early July it may be possible?


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Course they are, we are all experts at running football clubs :D

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Accrington Stanley

An interesting development on the Accy Website on Ticket Promotion for Next Weeks re-arranged Barnet game

I wil let the thread run a bit before I put up my own thoughts

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Think it is a great idea and at least the club have tried something, let's just hope that for next season, it can be more structured, with more notice and done more often, all in all, a good effort by the club :) :)

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Mates rates for season ticket holders, what a great concept :D

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How i have none.:D ideas fine if followed by MEDIA publicity to promote it.:)

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I agree that if its £17 (increase of £2) to walk on and get a seat, it will have an adverse impact. I now quite a few people who stopped coming when it went from £13 to £15 a few years back - silly I know, but it happened! A lot of people like myself work away during the week, so struggle to get to the mid week home games, hence they pay the walk on prices. Agree that thinking outside the box is required bearing in mind the local competion for football matches.

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The offer for Barnet needs to be heavily publicised, it is a good offer but a little after the Horse has bolted so to speak in the lift it perhaps could have given the team a couple of months ago when we were on a roll and may have greatly increased the likelihood of these walk on's returning.

I know the reasoning behind the offer being now which is to roll out the new ticketing system which I am sure will be of benefit going forward for the infrastructure of most things around the Club.

It will enhance I am sure the online facility for the Club and be tailored to the benefit of us the fans.

As to the Barnet game being in effect an experiment I hope it works to help the Club build for the future and encourage them to offer similar deals at what may be poorly attended games in the future while helping to build the fanbase.

My only doubt is the system itself is not enough, the Club need to be expanding it's horizons on it's own doorstep by making it a place to come to watch football at an affordable & sensible price band for all and that is aimed more at the walk on who will possibly make up their minds after any offers through the system are possibly finished.

We need to be leaving no stone unturned in being out & about in the Community and I mean players & staff alike not just through the Community Lads, the Club has to be seen as progressive & proactive and by by setting the standards high and aiming high with everything in & around the Club then we may become the the hub of Accrington & Hynburn.:)

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Ladies and gents, are you not concerned with the pricing? If we want to compete in the football league long-term then the first task is to attract the locals which puts the club in direct competition with backburn and burnley to name just 2. We cant compete in terms of facilities, we cant compete in level of football or attractiveness of opposition teams. But we can compete in pricing. £17 or £15 is way to expensive. And before someone points out the £2 saving, floaters do not pre book. Its well known you can turn up at blackburn and pay £20. So who in their right mind will pay £15 for league 2. The season tickets should be more expensive and walk in prices should be £10. Until people in the town and beyond subconciously link going to stanley with a tenner then the club will continue to service its existing customer base. And mamx i add, ticket pre book systems outside the top league are a 100% waste of time. Congradulations to the software firm who convinced our genius chief exec to buy it.

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Everyone knows that £17 to sit under a leaky (main stand) roof watching League 2 football played on a mountainside is a **** take. There's nothing we can do though. They're not going to change it now. They've messed up and will only realise it as attendances fall. Simple as.

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the ticketing sytem is just one small part of the bigger picture that the new system offers the club. The system includes club shop, ticketing, online features and many other features that will be of a massive help to the club and in the long run the fans of ASFC. My advice is to go and have a chat with Lew about it, the guy knows what he's doing. Have a bit of faith in the people behind the hard work that the club is undertaking, its not done lightly or easily, and is generally all done for the fans of ASFC.

Having had some ofthe new system explained to me and having been shown some of its many facets, I can see it becoming an integral part of the way we deal with the football club over the coming seasons. You amongst many others (me included) have regularly used the refrain that the club needs to be dragged kicking and screaming from the unibond all the way up the long road to League 2, maybe you should hop on board for the ride!!!

ASFC Onward and Upward!!!!! Forward into the 21st century!!!

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Not much chance of that, he gave his season ticket away to some kid after the Port Vale match and he's boycotting home games next season!

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I think you underestimate the power of a good system

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If the system does more than just ticketing then I can see an advantage. But for ticketing its a waste of time. How many floaters will plan ahead and be wanting to watch league 2 football? I predict a handful if any.

£17 accy vs stevenage or £20 blackburn vs villa

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of paying for a ticketing system, the club has got to win on price if it wants to go forward.
At the announced prices I cant help believe it is another missed opportunity.


Wynonie - bit of a grudge growing? We are all waiting for the fans forum; in the mean time Iylas has been kind enough to come on here and answer questions.
I guess you have some sort of connection to the Oneill & Heys double act?

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Oh dear Dav007................you dont really know our wynonie do you?
Be prepared to be lambasted :)

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Yep Duck and cover Dav!!!!

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cowboy I dont.
But the guy seems to have some sort of grudge because I dare question the club? If i was criticising for the sake of it then I deserve both barrels but I have explained why and provided a better option.
It is not to late to change the ticketing policy and pricing for next year!

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You dont know wyn do ya, if ya did u would know he's not in co hoots with anybody. Blimey whats up with stanley section today - missing tuesday nite matches :rofl38: as cleared up that matter can we get back to topic please :D
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It's a "Chicken & Egg" syndrome and I can see both sides of the argument

The plus points of the database appear to be:
Datbase for the Club which I don't think exsisits outside season ticket holders
Direct info to your inbox?
Booking tickets in advance?
Shopping Facility linked to the Club Shop from the software
Marketing can be specifically targetted with offers
Ticketing Bundles can be perhaps offered in groups of three game, five games etc.

Disadvantages
Small Fan Base
Limited Numbers to target
Initial Outlay
Not everyone has web access or can be bothered
Walk on's may be put off by the price increase unless booking before hand

Both the advantages & disadvantages can probably be tackled from with the system which will be quicker, more effective and less labour intensive than without the system which may give the Club more time to be out & about in the Community spreading the word.

If it proves to pay for itself and brings in more punters and helps the Club become more proactive then I am Happy:)

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Ha, ha, ha, brilliant, Davo! Who do you think I am, the shadowy enforcer behind "the firm"? :D

All I've done is repeated what you said. YOU were the one who said you'd given your season ticket away to some kid and you "hoped he enjoyed the last 3 home games". YOU were the one who said you weren't going to home matches, only away ones because it was "the perfect solution". Is bringing up the truth a little inconvenient for you?

Have you not understood what Ilyas is saying? He says he wants us to support the club and the management that's in place at the moment (whatever our personal feelings may be about them). The LAST thing he wants is the sort of boycott you're proposing, and if you don't believe me, just ask him.

I'm turning up and supporting the lads on the Clayton End, you're not. Who do you think Ilyas would say was doing the right thing?

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I did give away my season ticket because i cant make the last few games. The kid was over the moon. I clearly stated i was 100% behind Iylas but still had legitimate questions which is why the fan forum must happen.
One indirect question regarding bigger crowds, are the club renting out the burger 'dog food' van space in the clayton end or will they be running it themselves?

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No good muddying the waters now, Davo. You're the one who said that you wouldn't be going to any more home matches because you didn't want to give the club any more of your money. How can you possibly say that you're 100% behind Ilyas when you won't even turn up at the Crown?

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As far a I know, somebody rents the space!!

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That is one area could be explored to see if it is viable and if it could be done in house so to speak, most grounds I have been to it is heated food rollover hot dogs, pies, sausage rolls out of warmers, geyser with Hot Water for your coffee, tea, Bovril, that it is out of pre-packed cups, Bottled Water, fizzy drinks, crisps, chocolate & sweets money straight into the Clubs coffers.

My particular favourite has to be Scouse Pie or Premium Pie as it is called £2.90 at Anfield made by none other than our own Clayton Park Bakery.:)

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With the amount of Scousers we have, I would have thought they would be on sale at The Crown!!!! :D :D

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Today the club do frainshise out the ground catering. It takes away the uncertainty and the "hassle"

IMHO no change, tell the club if you think this is wrong :)

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This electronic ticket system / caper is in my opinion, a massive own goal. All well and good taking the club forwards by introducing the facility, but my opinion alone, it will have detrimental consequences.:(

As said by many others, I can't see how making it even dearer to attend on the day will take the club forward. Look either way down the M65, better football on offer with better facilities at much the same price.

I think the added cost for walk on prices is massively influenced by paying for this system and in all honesty I can't see why we need it. It's not like it would be needed every week, would only be worth it's while for a couple of games a season, ala games like Bury, Bradford & Rochdale or a big cup game (bearing in mind Rochdale won't be here next year and Bury might not be if they go up in the play-offs.) If we were to spend money improving anything it would be better spent improving facilities.

How does making it even dearer and inconveniencing folk by making them to have to think about getting tickets in advance, in order to get football at the price they pay at the moment, to use poor facilities, attract more folk onto the ground???:confused:

I can see it putting folk off, having a negative impact on attendances and in turn exasperating the problem. Lower attendances meaning less income, lower budget, etc, etc, etc.:(

Seriously, have the powers that be thought this one through ???:confused:

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If Carpon's thought is correct, the increase would be a bad move. Increased prices and consequently potentially reduced attendance are unlikely to pay for anything. On th other hand, if the increase is to bring us in line with other League 2 pricing - and I've not paid less anywhere else in L2 as a day tripper - has anybody ? - then that's a commercial judgement.

Rovers' prices, hugely subsidised by their Premier League membership and consequent income, would be irrelevant if they were more than 5 miles down the road. Unfortunately they're not :( - but we can't take them into account when doing our own pricing. (Sorry Lancs Dave - I would have included your lot but unfortunately ...)

£10 walk-on would be lovely for me, given I turn up very occasionally. But it won't provide the financial support a League 2 operation needs. I'll happily pay £13 or £15 - a sociable half gallon of bitter (N.B. not lager, or milk) in the Crown or Oaklea after the game and I've saved the difference, given effete southern beer prices (need to drink a lot to cover the petrol too, though).

Actually as an exile I shouldn't enter into this debate as the cost of admission is insignificant as a percentage of the cost to me of watching a game at the Crown - so why the hell am I typing this just after midnight? :confused:

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Tuesday night's game against Barnet will be a key acid test for whether the system will work or not, if people don't come on at them prices then maybe it will and should demand a re-think on matchday prices

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Do not be too hasty Google Page Ranking, Tuesday against Barnet, end of the season, nowt to play for type of game, plus Euro footy on the tele! It will be a test yes, but not - I think - a defining one :confused: :) :)

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Well just as a footnote to my earlier post....

I was talking to a few folk at work today, supporters of Burnley & Blackburn; and when telling them of next years plans regarding walk on prices, it only went to confirm what I feared.:(

They were pretty much in agreement, that this policy will probably stop them going watching Stanley when their own clubs don't have a game.:mad:

They find it crazy that a club in our position ( i.e. attendances) is trying to implement this scheme and they cited the inconvenience of having to buy tickets in advance as THE reason why they'll probably stop going; added to the fact that IF they decided to go on the day of a game, they pretty much agreed that £17 to sit or £15 to stand to watch a Stanley game are prices they wouldn't pay. I couldn't post some of their statements of amazement for fear of breaking the foul language rules, but I pretty much guess that you can get the picture:(

This may of course not be a true reflection mirrored by other fans of these clubs, but IF it is true, then it's worrying to say the least.

IF that opinion is shared by other neutrals who might be considering watching Stanley, then as stated in my earlier post, I fear this is a massive own goal.

My own personal opinion, but I think the club offering a £2 reduction if paying in advance ( i.e. £13 to sit or £11 to stand ) would have had a more positive effect. But I suppose the club would state it has to absorb the additional cost of this ticketing facility and that is reflected in the increased walk on prices.

For a club that probably only needs a ticket policy for a couple of games a season, to alienate potential walk on fans in this manner is, as stated by outsiders looking in ( i.e. the other fans & potential walk ons) crazy!!!.

How does this increase attendaces or for that matter revenue ?????:confused:

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Personally I think the money should have been spent on other things that are of more importance such as sorting the pitch out. The ticket system is not required at the moment as the club doesn't have the fanbase to justify such a huge outlay for this. Increasing prices with emphasis on pre-match tickets at the same price as current walk on prices is a completely ridiculous commercial strategy which will only do harm to any chances of increasing the fanbase. Why not use the money to put it towards subsdising a price reduction of walk on price for next season or at least keep it at the same prices as this season.

The easiest way of attracting new fans and walk ons is by keeping prices low not making more expensive to pay on the gate. I am afraid that this will alienate people that decide on a whim to go on a Stanley game because they are not going to pay extra money to watch and nor are they likely to go out of their way to order a ticket. It may sound harsh but that is they way it is. The biggest key to increasing gates is to look at offering family tickets at a fair price, offering inclusive deals for tickets and a drink or pie. Things like these will result in an increase of usage of the lounge and hopefully entice more walk ons. The pricing strategy I would have is that adult prices at £10 and kids at £5, this more than anything else will help to create the positive headlines that are required to get a major increase in fans.

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as far as i'm aware the pitch upgrade is being done close season n completly differant funds fer it.:)

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Cashy - Fine if the pitch is being sorted but all I was meaning is that the money is better spent on things that need changing. It could be spent on helping Coley get some more players or upgrading the Coppice, the ticket system will take a long time to pay for itself!

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possibly so, i don't know enough about what money goes where n why to say yeh or neh.:)

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I think a lot of you are going overboard about the ticketing system. It's only part of a system which has been implemented which also includes modernising & proffesionalising the retail side, a point made hundreds of times by people on here that it's been needed for years. I would guess the system is also used for a lot of administration work elsewhere in the club.

I know the system didn't decide the prices, and no matter what price is set not everybody will be happy, but all it's done is allowed a flexibility to be put in place. More often than not, systems like this are actually rented rather than purchased so I doubt any major outlay has been made.

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well said Dave

... but the price increase is wrong.

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As I said, some will be happy some won't. Obviously as an occasional walk on I wouldn't be too happy with any price increase :)