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loweiy 09-04-2010 10:36

Ilyas on BBC Radio Lancashire
 
This coming Tuesday (13th of April) evening from six, Andy Bayes is your host for sport where he'll be joined by our very own Ilyas Khan.

Do you have a question for Ilyas?

I will be sending on any questions that are posted on here to Andy Bayes.
and you can listen live by following the link below:-
BBC - Lancashire - TV & Radio

I shall start the ball rolling with "how does it feel to have saved the greatest club in the world"?

Loweiy

Stanleymad 09-04-2010 10:42

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What will happen once season is over, will u being staying on to oversee stanley and if so what changes if any do u propose to make or if not what will happen then ?

I hope u stay on as u have done so this season :D

VALAIRIAN 09-04-2010 11:09

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Nice one for this thread Loweiy :)

Are we going to get the pitch up to standard?

Are we going to get the Coppice End developed?

Are we going to get the ground up to standard in the eyes of F.L.,L.C.C. and the rest?

Are we going to get the management duo signed up this year?

Cheers Loweiy :) :) :)

cashman 09-04-2010 11:45

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Why has there been no "Official Clarification" as to who actually owns the club? fact that many rumours still persist, cannot be helping us. surely it would be good P.R. to do so?:confused:

Pendle Red 09-04-2010 13:56

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What is the hold up with the contracts supposedly offered to Bobby Grant & Michael Symes given that they are potentially both free to leave the Club in the Summer?

Have discussions taken place with a view to the make up of the squad for next season e.g. have the Management drawn up a list of the squad they want to keep?

Also is there Budgets already set for strengthening the Squad in the Summer?

We were told funding was in place for the re-development of the Coppice End at the last Fans Forum by the Club with grants which meant it would not cost the Club anything.

It seems to have gone very quiet on this front, Is the project still ongoing or is it likely to be a case of tweaking what we already have?

Is there a Long Term Business Plan for Stanley to become self sufficient?

Stanleymad 09-04-2010 14:06

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A note: Just keep this thread for proper Q's to be put forward for Ilyas please, bantered or general discussion posts will be removed, so helps Loweiy to sift out the suggested questions easily for the programme, so only questions to Ilyas allowed on this thread - ta muchy :D

Exile on Spencer St 09-04-2010 15:28

Re: Ilyas on BBC Radio Lancashire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 804872)
Why has there been no "Official Clarification" as to who actually owns the club? fact that many rumours still persist, cannot be helping us. surely it would be good P.R. to do so?:confused:

This is the one question I too would like answered. I suspect if there is an answer to it, it may also cover many of the questions raised by others.

Willie Miller 09-04-2010 16:35

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After Illyas fights Tim Wethercrack, who will he fight next, Audley Harrison, Prince Naseeem or Barry McGuigan

SPUGGIE J 09-04-2010 16:57

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Can/could we as a small club afford/afforded to take the step up to League One considering the troubles we have had on and off the pitch financial and otherwise?

stanleyhouse 09-04-2010 19:28

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Whose result on a Saturday afternoon do you look for FIRST. Stanley's or Chelsea's ?

Stephen666 09-04-2010 23:14

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Coleman has been at Stanley for the last ten years and so rightly needs congratulating for the clubs sucess not just this season (FA Cup, JPT, Highest League Position) but also for the Unibond days.
Do you think he is the right man to take Stanley to the next level?

st06nc2 11-04-2010 10:49

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whens the 'cow shed' being demolished ??

Gribbster 12-04-2010 11:54

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what about the scaffolding? surely we need to do somethin with that

mab 13-04-2010 06:17

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:( Is it true that if stanley don't have some thing ie plans in place and on the table and seen to be doing something to bring the stadium capacity up to league standards stanley will be exspeled from the league at the end of this season:(.

Wynonie Harris 13-04-2010 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 805901)
:( Is it true that if stanley don't have some thing ie plans in place and on the table and seen to be doing something to bring the stadium capacity up to league standards stanley will be exspeled from the league at the end of this season:(.

A bit of good news on this front! :)

Accrington Stanley set to be given stadium cash boost (From Lancashire Telegraph)

loweiy 13-04-2010 13:23

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Andy has read this thread and will try to ask as many of your questions as possible on tonights show

Thanks to all who posted

Stephen

Stanleymad 13-04-2010 14:37

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If anyone has any more Q's to pose to Ilyas for tonights show please do so before 6pm so that it possible to be read out. Thread will actually keep open for discussion on points raised in response to q's :D

lancsdave 13-04-2010 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 805901)
:( Is it true that if stanley don't have some thing ie plans in place and on the table and seen to be doing something to bring the stadium capacity up to league standards stanley will be exspeled from the league at the end of this season:(.


well Ilyas has just answered your question, you will have to go to the Crown Ground again next season :D

mab 13-04-2010 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 806051)
well Ilyas has just answered your question, you will have to go to the Crown Ground again next season :D

:eek: Dam n blast mist it:( Will it be on Radio lancs web anyone:)

lancsdave 13-04-2010 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 806062)
:eek: Dam n blast mist it:( Will it be on Radio lancs web anyone:)

Pretty sure it goes on i=player. Have to say he dropped one clanger. He said he SITS with the Ultras, Jase will have a heart attack when he sees that word :rofl38:

shillelagh 13-04-2010 18:25

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he dropped another .. saying he was watching barnet tonight ...

loweiy 13-04-2010 18:27

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I thought it was top stuff , and we should all feel happier now.

Loweiy

lancsdave 13-04-2010 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 806078)
he dropped another .. saying he was watching barnet tonight ...

There have been that many postponed games this season I'm suprised anybody can remember who they are playing. :)

lancsdave 13-04-2010 18:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loweiy (Post 806082)
I thought it was top stuff , and we should all feel happier now.

Loweiy


If only all football club chairman were the same as Ilyas, it might actually be the sport it's supposed to be again :)

ukcowboy 13-04-2010 19:05

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Managed to listen to a fair bit of the program this eve.

Ilyas came accross as a passionate and humble Man IMHO................it was refreshing to hear the TRUTH being told, and am I the only one who got the impression that the goings on in the day to day running of the club still irk Him somewhat?

An excellent interview.................. well done Ilyas :) (not meant in a condecending way)

SPUGGIE J 13-04-2010 19:11

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Didnt catch it all I forgot and had to be reminded. :o Will catch it all later with luck .

Pendle Red 13-04-2010 21:14

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Honest & Frank as always

Interesting pieces on the Ownership issue

david1 13-04-2010 22:14

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Hope he stops at the club as chairman next season !

cashman 13-04-2010 22:17

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It don't mate.:) ya edited it out at same time as i posted. pmsl

david1 13-04-2010 22:19

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I tried to put a link on but it didn't work .

Reamer 13-04-2010 23:30

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BBC iPlayer - Sport: 13/04/2010


try here

mab 14-04-2010 06:20

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:eek::( Been on the radio news this morning that Ilyas is stepping down as chairman at end of season :(:(:(

lancsdave 14-04-2010 07:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 806203)
:eek::( Been on the radio news this morning that Ilyas is stepping down as chairman at end of season :(:(:(


They are basically just taking one line out of his interview and making a headline of it. It's what Ilyas said he is planning BUT he did go on to suggest it may or may not happen. Sounded to me like everything is up in the air

Willie Miller 14-04-2010 07:55

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But I bet he's gotta a Illyas approved replacement

DAV007 14-04-2010 11:20

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This makes everything uncertain? Has EW sold his shares yet?

Exile on Spencer St 14-04-2010 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 806301)
This makes everything uncertain? Has EW sold his shares yet?

There's never been an answer to this, so perhaps we should presume not.

I didn't hear interview but, reading the LET's desperate attempt to generate a headline, I take it that Ilyas said he wouldn't be chairman next year if things stay as they are.

Would anyone who has listened, or can listen to, the interview care to comment on whether this was what Ilyas meant?

lancsdave 14-04-2010 11:54

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Ilyas did say in the interview that Eric still owns 51% of the shares according to Companies House, which is the official measure. However you really need to listen to the interview to get the in's and out's of it all.

Redraine 14-04-2010 11:54

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If I was in Ilyas's position, having single handedly saved the club from oblivion and ploughed in all that cash, I certainly wouldn't be as relaxed as he seems to be about the ownership issue.:confused:

Stanleymad 14-04-2010 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 806314)
If I was in Ilyas's position, having single handedly saved the club from oblivion and ploughed in all that cash, I certainly wouldn't be as relaxed as he seems to be about the ownership issue.:confused:


He's rather a relaxed guy anyway, but he did go on to explain that its not about ownership of shares as such, as they mean nothing [his words] but in respect to the debt - that's where the control of the club lies. So gather that it is Himself thats the controller really, was rather confusing.

Redraine 14-04-2010 12:22

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He said the club is debt free. Nothing to stop Eric selling the club to his mate Vaughan, then, if he's not in gaol. Very reassuring.

widnes viking 14-04-2010 14:05

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Former Chester City owner Stephen Vaughan arrested - Chester Chronicle

Exile on Spencer St 14-04-2010 16:10

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Again, apologies for not being able to listen to his words, but did Ilyas refer to the investigations into the club's finances/accounts etc, which I understood to be in hand?

expatriate 14-04-2010 17:54

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Exile - good evening. We were able to finalise the appointment of Pierces as company accountants. the audit for the past couple of seasons is now in hand, and i am confident that based on their work we can also look more carefully at anything which needs to be investigated further back. HOwever, i really do want to ensure that there is clarity here. as i have said in the past (like a broken record) this is a community club, and the purpose of the investigation is not meant to be a witch hunt, but to really make sure that we have a true record of the balance sheet, and address any questions that might still be ambiguous.

Happy, as always, to be asked directly.

Ilyas

bdc 14-04-2010 18:06

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Good evening Ilyas,

I have not heard the interview from last night but according the BBC sport website David is going to taking over the reins again as chairman. Do you honestly feel that he is capable of leading us onto the next chapter and help move the club forward? After everything that happened last year I dont think he is the right man.

Stanleymad 14-04-2010 18:06

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Good stuff glad its got sorted properly and hope everything is in order, no worries :D
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expatriate 14-04-2010 18:10

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BDC, please take a few minutes to listen to the interview and then I reckon you might not have the same question. the website is a very very brief snatch of the whole conversation, and i would respectfully suggest that you might not have the same concern. I am more than happy to address questions very directly but on this occasion the interview was unedited, and i am happy that it is a fair and accurate reflection of what i believe.

I really do hope you can listen. If not, then come back again and i will try to address your question.

Ilyas

AccyAggro 14-04-2010 18:35

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Ilyas dont leave the club in the hands of others who have failed before!!!!

i.e EW and D'ON!!

IF you are 'leaving' find somebody better/more capabler of taking the club forward!

expatriate 14-04-2010 18:51

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Dear Accy/Aggro. You obviously feel very strongly about the situation. I respect your passion. Rather than try to do this on the bulletin board, why dont you give me a call ? 07826 600600. You can always text me, and i will give you a buzz back at a time that is convenient. I really do hope i can help you feel a bit more comfortable.

Ilyas

bdc 14-04-2010 19:37

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Ilyas,

I have now listened to most of the interview and I am still concerned that with David back in charge all the problems of old will come back in relation to the way he run the club before you and Peter stepped in. I also think that with David back at the helm it will have an adverse effect on the club in relation to season ticket sales. Most people believe that David cannot be trusted to run the club himself and more because of the shambles that happened last October where David consistently fooled the fans into thinking everything was ok.

I think that most fans would be in agreement that we would like you to carry on, I know that you can't dedicate the time that other chairmen can. However the communication from the club since you took over the helm has been brilliant and I think that everyone would feel more comfortable with you still in charge. If David takes over then there are no guarantees that the open communication that you have kept with the fans will carry on.

As a personal plea I would like you to reconsider your decision to step down from being the Chairmen and I think that if you ask any other fan they would probably say the same.

AccyAggro 14-04-2010 19:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bdc (Post 806402)
Ilyas,

I have now listened to most of the interview and I am still concerned that with David back in charge all the problems of old will come back in relation to the way he run the club before you and Peter stepped in. I also think that with David back at the helm it will have an adverse effect on the club in relation to season ticket sales. Most people believe that David cannot be trusted to run the club himself and more because of the shambles that happened last October where David consistently fooled the fans into thinking everything was ok.

I think that most fans would be in agreement that we would like you to carry on, I know that you can't dedicate the time that other chairmen can. However the communication from the club since you took over the helm has been brilliant and I think that everyone would feel more comfortable with you still in charge. If David takes over then there are no guarantees that the open communication that you have kept with the fans will carry on.

As a personal plea I would like you to reconsider your decision to step down from being the Chairmen and I think that if you ask any other fan they would probably say the same.


Thats exactly what i mean...

expatriate 14-04-2010 20:01

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guys, its difficult to react to the last two emails. I think that David and I really did shake hands, and I have always been a person who keeps his word. If i were to change the "rules" now, then I would be no better than others that I have criticised.

I do, however, want to try and reassure as many people as possible, and someone has sent me an email requesting the chance to have an open forum at the club where people can air their concerns. My instinct is to have David and Rob come along - and with an open invitation to Eric as well, with all fans being welcome to sit down. The only rules will be that we treat each other with courtesy.

What do people think ? is that a good idea ? at least we can have a chance to say our piece ?

Ilyas

VALAIRIAN 14-04-2010 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by expatriate (Post 806410)
guys, its difficult to react to the last two emails. I think that David and I really did shake hands, and I have always been a person who keeps his word. If i were to change the "rules" now, then I would be no better than others that I have criticised.

I do, however, want to try and reassure as many people as possible, and someone has sent me an email requesting the chance to have an open forum at the club where people can air their concerns. My instinct is to have David and Rob come along - and with an open invitation to Eric as well, with all fans being welcome to sit down. The only rules will be that we treat each other with courtesy.

What do people think ? is that a good idea ? at least we can have a chance to say our piece ?

Ilyas

This seems like a very good and fair way forward, good idea!!

Pendle Red 14-04-2010 20:20

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The timing of that Ilyas does need to be sooner rather than later

I appreciate you are a very busy person but with the Season Tickets now being promoted this is a Key Time for the Club & Fans to help build those broken bridges.

People do have lots of key questions about what is going on behind the scenes and this may help perhaps allay some people's fears whilst perhaps helping everyone to understand the Stanley vision of the Future.

cashman 14-04-2010 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by expatriate (Post 806410)
guys, its difficult to react to the last two emails. I think that David and I really did shake hands, and I have always been a person who keeps his word. If i were to change the "rules" now, then I would be no better than others that I have criticised.

I do, however, want to try and reassure as many people as possible, and someone has sent me an email requesting the chance to have an open forum at the club where people can air their concerns. My instinct is to have David and Rob come along - and with an open invitation to Eric as well, with all fans being welcome to sit down. The only rules will be that we treat each other with courtesy.

What do people think ? is that a good idea ? at least we can have a chance to say our piece ?

Ilyas

agree it is a good idea, gotta say though have reservations about some folk keeping to the rules.:eek:

bdc 14-04-2010 20:23

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I think it may be a good idea but the last time we had a forum we were told everything was ok with club before the beginning of the season! Being honest Ilyas I just don't trust David being left to run the club plus the fact he doesn't ever seem to tell the complete truth.

I hope that a fans forum would be able to clear up some of the underlying issues in relation to moving the club forward and pushing for the play offs next season. However in truth I don't know if it would be worth having if it is the same as the last one with the lack of substance to the answers given by Rob and David.

expatriate 14-04-2010 20:25

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Pendle, why dont we do this. Lets see just what interest there is in this idea and i will promise to do what i can to set it up. I really do appreciate your concerns, but on the season ticket i respectfully suggest that NOT buying a ticket is the wrong response to the worry about who will be running the club. the season ticket sales help the club survive through the lean close season and ultimately ends up paying wages, so i would ask that you are able to distinguish between your concern on the one hand, and the basic housekeeping on the other hand.

thanks

Mr T 14-04-2010 20:25

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A fans forum superb!!

The passionate "owners" + the FANtastic fans + King Coley sounds like "pay 4 view"!!!

Set it up soon and "the club" may make a few bob as well!!

Pls keep the faith, with all our positives + we're "in the black"; upwards "the reds"!!!:)

Stanleymad 14-04-2010 20:26

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I dont think having eric there is a good idea, too much ill feeling towards him after what he did.
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Pendle Red 14-04-2010 20:28

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Ilyas my concern is more with other people not my self, hence why I was pointing out it is possibly the most important time of the Year not just from a fans point of view but also the basic bread & butter of sponsors and possible new fans.

DAV007 14-04-2010 20:29

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stanleymad, i think eric's attendance is essential, oneills attendance is just as controversial.

great idea Iylas, important at the start of the meeting you make it clear to everyone (both the panel and the fans) there is nothing to be gained from personal insults.

expatriate 14-04-2010 20:32

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I can understand that there may be reservations about certain people attending. However, if we focus only on what is in the club's interest, and insist on basic rules of etiquette and good manners, then there is nothing to be afraid of. I can always get someone to collect questions so there is no worry about intimidation.

Pendle Red 14-04-2010 20:36

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Everybody should want to be involved, if this Club wants to move forward the Barriers need to come down (That is not directed at you Ilyas)

VALAIRIAN 14-04-2010 20:37

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Agreed, EW really should be there, if possible!!

Stanleymad 14-04-2010 20:44

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Ok, should least clear things up once and for all, and give fans clarity.
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Pendle Red 14-04-2010 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 806436)
Ok, should least clear things up once and for all, and give fans clarity.
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That last word is the key to everything since October last year we have had that and I think most peoples fear is that it may again become a thing of the past.

We may not always agree with everything that goes on at the Club but Clarity always commands Respect, the two words are entwined:)

yerself 14-04-2010 20:53

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Sorry to say this but if EW and DO'N are still involved with the club next season they won't be seeing any more of my money.

Chimer 14-04-2010 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 806443)
Sorry to say this but if EW and DO'N are still involved with the club next season they won't be seeing any more of my money.

So you lose the joy and anguish of supporting Stanley, the club loses your support (financial and vocal), and EW and DO'N lose nothing whatsoever :confused:. Don't understand, sorry.

MCR ADIM 14-04-2010 21:30

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Fans forum would be good, and if Ilyas is happy with the running of the club than so am i, and on the interview he says "his club" , "that he aint going anywhere" so Ilyas will always be about, he speaks very passionatly about the club, and the fans,

MCR ADIM 14-04-2010 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 806457)
So you lose the joy and anguish of supporting Stanley, the club loses your support (financial and vocal), and EW and DO'N lose nothing whatsoever :confused:. Don't understand, sorry.

i agree with that, if you dont care what goes on behind the doors, get on the terrace suport the lads and coley and jb for 90mins, have passion, pride, belief, the fans are the 12th men at the games, give the players that extra boost and belief aswell

cashman 14-04-2010 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 806457)
So you lose the joy and anguish of supporting Stanley, the club loses your support (financial and vocal), and EW and DO'N lose nothing whatsoever :confused:. Don't understand, sorry.

I also have no love fer E.W, or the DoN, theres only 1 thing would make me stay away n it sure aint those 2, have already re-newed season ticket, so i'm wi you on this Chimer.:confused:

mab 14-04-2010 22:30

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:) I to have renewed my season ticket:) JC and the lads need our surport :)

DAV007 14-04-2010 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 806457)
So you lose the joy and anguish of supporting Stanley, the club loses your support (financial and vocal), and EW and DO'N lose nothing whatsoever :confused:. Don't understand, sorry.

Wrong.

There seems to be only 2 things which motivate these men, money and status.
They wont be getting any more of my money.

I hope the young kid who I gave me season ticket to walking out of the match enjoys the last 3 home games.

Going to away games is the perfect solution; you get to support JC and the team without giving your money to the undesirable others.

Admitadly, only a handful of voices and cash in protest to the ownership/control issue wont have a great effect, but its about principle.

If I dont like the union I stop paying subs, if I dont like my MP I dont vote for them, if I dont want like Tesco I shop in Sainsburys and with the owners of my beloved club; I dont give them any of my cash.

Its a real mix bag of a season, we have a fantastic supporter in Iylas Khan who saved the club and a trememdous effort by alot of stanley fans; however we finish the season with the same status quo and no sign of them or the club being founded/controlled by the fan base, which is ultimatly the community.

Theres only 2 ways to run Stanley. With a sugar daddy at a loss or as a community project of sorts with huge participation and support from a variety of local groups/bodies.
The situation of having an 'owner' without the financial clout to sustain the club may well result in another HMRC notice.

Role on 2010/11 away days.

simon 15-04-2010 00:37

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In a strange way I agree with everyone so far ?????

Fans Forum would be interesting for sure, But I wonder if I would leave feeling the same way I felt last time ?

Its about TRUST, I firmly believe that ILYAS would not Deceive us knowingly !!!! However I could not say the same about others. So how would I feel after the Forum ??? Happy with the answers or worried I was being kept sweet with words.

Before a forum we the fans will think of questions ???? So will the people answering them, But they will have thought out how they will answer ??

Sorry for being negative, But right now I feel like I have just been told I have Cancer(but they dont know if its terminal or not)

What Ilyas has done so far is beyond the Mark, to say the least, to put all the effort and money forward with NO long term ability to control that investment or effort. That is something we may just have to be happy with, just being there and enjoying being part of it.

dabeast 15-04-2010 06:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 806489)
Wrong.

Going to away games is the perfect solution; you get to support JC and the team without giving your money to the undesirable others.

Admitadly, only a handful of voices and cash in protest to the ownership/control issue wont have a great effect, but its about principle.

Role on 2010/11 away days.

A contradiction in terms. Please stop stirring up s***. Your 'perfect solution' if followed by others on a large scale will kill your beloved club and render Ilyas' work pointless.

Not a fan of EW,DON or RH personally but the club must be bigger than these people and if they are onboard that won't stop me supporting the club.

What do you hope to acheive throught not putting in to the club?? If the club ends up going to the wall because of a return to cloak and dagger and deception it will be bad enough, but if it were the fault of fans being too stubborn to look beyond their own reservations then that is unforgivable.

I understand your reservations and share your disgust at events of last year - but there is no way to separate the income to the players and staff from the presumed income to the board.

Please reconsider your stance, or at the least refrain from posting it, so as others don't see this as the correct and appropriate action.

ps. I think the forum has to be an essential part of the rebuilding of trust and merits its own thread

DAV007 15-04-2010 07:27

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Da Beast

I can understand what you are saying, but please tell me what other options do I have to protest?

Some of these men where happy to go to court with no more than a plea - if it was left upto them their is a chance we would be talking about 'the good old days'.
I think Iylas Khan as the man we all trust is the key to the solution.

I dont want to bring up the past, but what assurances can we have they have learnt from the past and have the financial ability going forward.

MCR ADIM 15-04-2010 08:54

Re: Ilyas on BBC Radio Lancashire
 
O'Neill promises his Accrington Stanley takeover will be completed (From Lancashire Telegraph)

AccyMad 15-04-2010 10:12

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Yet another promise? - I've lost count of how many times he's 'promised' it will be sorted, time for him to clear off & let someone who knows how to run a football club take over

dabeast 15-04-2010 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 806513)

Da Beast
I think Iylas Khan as the man we all trust is the key to the solution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by expatriate (Post 806422)
Pendle, why dont we do this. Lets see just what interest there is in this idea and i will promise to do what i can to set it up. I really do appreciate your concerns, but on the season ticket i respectfully suggest that NOT buying a ticket is the wrong response to the worry about who will be running the club. the season ticket sales help the club survive through the lean close season and ultimately ends up paying wages, so i would ask that you are able to distinguish between your concern on the one hand, and the basic housekeeping on the other hand.

thanks

There is your answer!

I know it doesn't answer your question on how else to protest. Assuming the forum goes ahead, then attendance with your concerns could be a starting point.

The players and management need our support - especially at a time where new contracts are being offered - they need to be confident in the clubs future and therefore witholding vital income fro the team is not the way forward.

Pendle Red 15-04-2010 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dabeast (Post 806568)
There is your answer!

I know it doesn't answer your question on how else to protest. Assuming the forum goes ahead, then attendance with your concerns could be a starting point.

The players and management need our support - especially at a time where new contracts are being offered - they need to be confident in the clubs future and therefore witholding vital income fro the team is not the way forward.

That last paragraph is something that also needs to be levelled and answered by the Club as well, I know Ilyas has in part answered that in the interview but we need the same line from within,

ukcowboy 15-04-2010 16:07

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Hmmm? First we were told way back at the start of the 'take over' it would all be done and dusted in a 'couple of weeks'................those 'couple of weeks stretched into nearly 7 months! Now He wants us to believe it will be done by the end of the season, sorry but I for one cannot bring myself to belive a word the Man says.

In Ilyas and Peter I most definatley trust, in DoN Im afraid not.

As for the part that says EW is allowed to attend any game for the next 5yrs as part of the deal, to me that is unacceptable..................Whalley is RESPOSIBLE for the mess the club was in last year, and would of happily walked away scot free if Ilyas and Peter had not stepped in to save us. Personaly, I would be happy if Whalley never set foot on the ground again! Not to mention the revenue we are missing out on by allowing Him to utilise the 'best box' we have.

I look forward to this forum, but somehow doubt that EW will accept the invitation! Too many difficult questions for Him I would reckon..........

Chimer 15-04-2010 16:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 806513)

I can understand what you are saying, but please tell me what other options do I have to protest?

Wear a green and yellow scarf? :) Everybody will recognise that as a sign of unhappiness with the owner(s) ....

Or perhaps in our case it should be claret and blue, or blue and white :D

MCR ADIM 15-04-2010 17:00

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goood news in the observer aswell :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D

AccyAggro 15-04-2010 17:50

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The 'take over' was meant to happen in may 2009, but yet there is a 'stumbling block' i think we would all like to know exactly what that is?

I too personally dont like O'neil or anything hes done for the club and would much prefer a brand new owner/managing director, wether that be ilyas or someone else. but i am still guna buy a season ticket and go most away games regardless

mab 15-04-2010 19:20

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Quote:

The 'take over' was meant to happen in may 2009, but yet there is a 'stumbling block' i think we would all like to know exactly what that is?
I would think its down to raising the money needed to pay for the 51%shares.

maccawozzagod 15-04-2010 19:40

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the 51% is paid for and O'Neill has the share certificates. However EW will not sign the shares over to him on a legal basis until he has assurances that he will be repaid, by the club, for the directors loans that he claims to have put into the club over the years. Source tomorrows Observer.

The next bit is educated guesswork but because the accounts were in such a****state there was no way to prove or disprove the supposed loans made and that is why it has taken so long as IK or DON try to ascertain what monies have been paid or not. This apparently is nearing completion.

Pendle Red 15-04-2010 19:55

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What I don't get with all the haggling is the Club was worthless and minutes away from going out of business forever but for the intervention of two men, so why is this still even ongoing?

K.S.H 15-04-2010 20:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 806754)
What I don't get with all the haggling is the Club was worthless and minutes away from going out of business forever but for the intervention of two men, so why is this still even ongoing?

Thats exactly my thoughts on it, if Ilyas and Peter hadn't turned up at the hearing the club would have been wound up, locks put on immediately and everything sold off to pay the debts, not pay Eric back what he has put in over the years, as far as I'm concerned he lost everything then and shouldn't have the right to claim anything back from the club, if it was me i'd be making him pay on the gate when he comes :mad:

Jimbo T Hornblower 15-04-2010 20:25

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Thanks for the link to the interview whoever it was - I missed it live so just listened to the whole thing and enjoyed it - very straight talking and honest but thats nowt new for our Ilyas, however like some others on here, I am concerned about the passing of 'control' at the end of the season. Lets see how it pans out.

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

DAV007 15-04-2010 21:43

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So EW wants repaying for loans to the club? I find it shocking. Iylas puts in hundreds of thousands as a donation for no return and the man who let the tax bill build up wants his money back!
Are they interest free loans?
Is Oneill putting the cost of paying back these loans onto the club instead of funding them himself? Is it wrong to presume a financially capable owner would clear the debts and start a fresh, not leaving the liability on the football club?

The more we know, the worse it gets.
Are any of the 'give your wages to the club' brigade who purchased B shares had access to the accounts yet?
Or are you still going to criticse me and other likeminded who are protesting with our pockets and using your argument 'the club needs the money so just pay up and ask questions later'. It was the same argment/mentality which allowed the SOS fund raising to go along for so long without to many people asking questions.

Please, dont be lead along again. Refuse to buy a season ticket and any merchandise until when get some clarity and concrete answers.
After nearly going bust, I think the fans have a right to the truth no matter how murky it may turn out to be.

yonmon 15-04-2010 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 806566)
Yet another promise? - I've lost count of how many times he's 'promised' it will be sorted, time for him to clear off & let someone who knows how to run a football club take over

DAVE O’Neill has promised Accrington Stanley fans that his takeover will be completed by the end of the season.

Why, I ask myself, does DoN feel the need to continue making these pronouncements to the Fans of Accrington Stanley ??.
Does he get some sort of perverse pleasure from seeing his questionable quotations displayed across the back pages of the Lancashire Telegraph ?.
Or is he attempting in some nefarious way, to reassure us that his intentions are not quite as dishonourable as some would have it ??.

Perhaps it is some sort of an IQ Test for us all, intended to test our long-term memories in respect of past prevarications uttered by this man at some of the most traumatic time in the recent history of our great Club ?.

Was I alone, I wonder, in sensing a cold and slightly uncomfortable feeling running up and down my ageing spine when reading tonight's cringe-making article in t'Telegraph ?. which left me asking my original question .......'What motivates the Managing Director of Accrington Stanley Football Club to keep on making nebulous promises to those fans upon whom the future of the Club depends ??.

(I did have a rather paranoid thought when reading this article...that by making these promises then DoN was actually creating a ploy to exact some revenge in reprisal for all the negative criticisms from fans which may have suggested that he had been rather econonomic with the truth in the past...allegedly !..But that couldn't really be so...Could it ?? ).

All of which leads me....on this occasion ....to view AccyMad's
post with some degree of empathy !!....


'ON STANLEY !...ON !!...to greater things !!...




Stanleymad 15-04-2010 22:11

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Why do i get the horrible feeling of de ja vu :(
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shakermaker 15-04-2010 22:46

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Ilyas' interview got rid of my remaining fears about ownership of the club.
We're debt free and the good guy has our back. There's nowt to worry about.

bdc 15-04-2010 23:33

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I would suggest there is a lot to worry about including a reduction in revenue for the club due to EW being back as people will not buy season tickets with him around. Also how can we expect DON to run the club in a professional manner when he completely ballsed it up last year and nearly put the club out of business. I don't want David in charge and I certainly don't want to see EW anywhere near the club.

cashman 15-04-2010 23:40

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What bothers me,is seems like a "Catch 22":(

dabeast 16-04-2010 05:37

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Whatever your stance on this it is clearly essential to arrange the fans forum asap. We cannot afford to have the fans split again.

Pendle Red 16-04-2010 06:24

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In a daft sense and not from a this season perspctive, this is the most critical time of the year

Where Budgets are set and agreed for staff & players, sponsorship deals are put in place, season ticket sales are on the go, plans being put in place

But there is one major stumbling block.........

Unfortunately that won't just go away and till all the cards are on the table and certain issues are addressed they will remain and the Club will struggle to go forward as one.

Clarity, Cohesion, Honesty and Trust all point to a way forward and a Bright future on & off the field for the Reds

Under Ilyas we have had all of that but people/fans need reassurances that we are not about to embark back into another journey into the unknown.

yonmon 16-04-2010 07:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 806841)
What bothers me,is seems like a "Catch 22":(

What bothers me Cashy is that the promised 'Transparency', after a brief period of honest (?) acceptance that all fans deserve to be kept informed of developments at the Club, (This being stimulated by the demands of Ilyas Khan's admirably stated principles after 'the crisis').is waning to say the least.
It would seem that the honeymoon period must be over as this'Transparency' seems to be either veering over towards the opaque again..or worse still revealing the sort of behaviour which led to such dramatic divisions in the relationship between the Club and it's supporters in those dark days !.
It is a very real 'Catch 22' situation as you rightly say, and one towards which you, I, and all concerned about the future of the Club can seemingly do little about except watch from the wings with worried impotence !..( and read about in vague and annoying promises made by DoN in t'Telegraph !).
Which makes Ilyas' call for an Open Forum seem all the more necessary, and URGENT !.... agree ???
See you there ???.

'ON STANLEY !..ON!...TO GREATER (AND BETTER ?) THINGS'.

Wynonie Harris 16-04-2010 07:36

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I agree, there is a horrible feeling of sliding back towards the same old same old.

One interesting point from Ilyas's interview, though. Have I understood this correctly? What he seemed to be saying was that all the money he's put into the club could be converted into shares and it would dilute EW's (or the D'ON's) shareholding. I admit I'm no businessman, but surely Ilyas still has the potential power to ensure that the club is on the straight and narrow? No doubt, some financially-astute person will correct me if I've got hold of the wrong end of the stick over that one!

lancsdave 16-04-2010 08:07

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The direction things are going looks very clear to me :rolleyes::D

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JEFF 16-04-2010 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dabeast (Post 806863)
Whatever your stance on this it is clearly essential to arrange the fans forum asap. We cannot afford to have the fans split again.

We had a fans forum last season and all that happened was that we were told blatent lies by Heys and O'Neill who promised us that the development of the Coppice end would commence after the last home game of the season and that grants were in place and that it would not cost Stanley a penny. These two are LIARS and I don't think that you can teach a liar to tell the truth.


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