Re: Coleman
 

All fans are welcome on our board. Only people given short shrift is anyone talking rubbish! Often our own lot!

We're discussing rumours. If Coleman had categorically ruled out a move I doubt this thread would even exist, until he does the stories/rumours/opinion will no doubt continue to flow.

Re: Coleman
 

Ahhh ok thank you:D

Trouble is rumours can be damaging all round, thing is with stanley fans here is that over the years we've had many a rumour fly here to point many took so seriously only to discover there wasnt much fact in it, the discussions got so intense that i had to close down the thread - up most of night sorting it, hence why i stomped in the way i have & why i asked about the fact.

No we cant stop rumour & the main common ground is the Q is it gonna happen or not, do dale gain or do stanley lose management, not saying that it hasnt crossed our minds too but stanley fans have hardened to believe when we see it, as the likes of players whom have gone or ones coming to the club.

We know full well why dale [as other clubs no doubt] see that coley is a good prospect & would do well with a bigger budget........well yes i suppose, but the major magic he achieves at stanley is the ability to turn an average player into a brilliant player, whether he could do the same elsewhere i dont know because of his budget at stanley he has had to make do & that could be the force behind it. Can i see him going?.........i dont think so but then again he could, think if he was that keen he would of gone like a shot, the fact he has publically stated he hasnt gone & stanley is still part of his drive then its clever for one or not convinced for another. No doubt stanley fans would be last to know if he does step out, but think he's staying at least this week:D

Re: Coleman
 

Sorry people as such a fuss was made of the moderation, you will find the thread shorter & ALL posts that was ott, off topic, language, links with no description & personal have all been removed & thread reported, so admin can have a shufty to make sure all rules of posts have been dealt with properly & fairly even the moderator ones. If ANYONE has a problem with me or moderations please drop me a pm or with the admin team i will happily be accountable but will not respond on thread & will be removed. I wasnt over zelous enough:D

Any missed ones or other posts that is problematic - use the report button, then any mod can take relevant action.

The real & only point i want to make as a poster [moderators are human & not robotic] is que cera cera on the subject of whos going or coming to the club, shall believe things with my eyes & not rumours imho.

Many thanks
stanleymad

Re: Coleman
 

Just spoken to a mate at Sky bet and the market was taken down because Coleman had been backed at 1/4. However, the money had not come from the Rochdale (or Accrington or Liverpool lol) area :rolleyes:

Re: Coleman
 

Have you got a mate who works at Stan James as well? Perhaps you could shed some light on that one too.

I've just had a gander at Coleman's post match interview on your OS, I think there's been an issue with the upload. The press chap says he'll talk about the game first, then ask about a few 'other issues'. He does talk about the game, but then the uploaded interview stops suddenly without any mention of 'other issues'. I was expecting the interviewer to ask about the Dale link and Coleman to deny any interest and pledge his allegiance to Accy...

Re: Coleman
 

I am sorry that some of you feel that your board has been invaded - it was only a bit of friendly banter, we wanted and to see what you thought about the Coleman rumours. No one in my opinion has been 'spouting', digging or bragging (we have nothing to brag about in case you haven't noticed). There hasn't been one nasty or malicious post from Dale fans as far as I am aware. I hope that if any of you would like to join in the debates our forum you would be made more welcome.

Re: Coleman
 

I'm hoping beyond hope that he doesn't go - but mostly because I'm looking forward to the derby day game returning!!

Re: Coleman
 

Looks like there might be some truth in it after all. Harry Redknapp resigned at Spurs, he's clearly got his sights on the big job at the Crown Ground :)

Re: Coleman
 

See Fishy site!

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standby for forum overload :eek:

Re: Coleman
 

Devastated.

Goodbye Accrington Stanley

Re: Coleman
 

Let's hope it's sorted quickly. For everyone concerned.

Re: Coleman
 

I really hope John Coleman isn't tempted to go to Spotland. I'll be honest and say i wanted him to become Preston manager following Phil Browns sacking.

That surely would have been seen as acceptable by most if not all Stanley fans. Rochdale are nothing that Stanley can't be. OK they have a better stadium and a few more fans but they will never be in a position to go any higher than League One.

Stanley can most certainly aspire to equal that and there's every chance of bypassing Rochdale on the way.

Stick with what you are comfortable with Mr Coleman and finish what you started.

Re: Coleman
 

I don`t think he will go. But he has to see what`s on offer. I`m still hoping for that one more promotion that he thinks we have in us. And also I think that in the next few years he will be football`s longest serving manager. Rochdale will not be a great career move. Have faith. He won`t go.

Re: Coleman
 

You guys must be worried stiff.

Coley will go elsewhere some time but Rochdale?

Just wondered if Proctor's move has tempted him to at least talk to 'dale?

Hope he stays even though it'll probably mean us suffering once again.

Re: Coleman
 

cc totally agree .....Rochdale is not a positive career move and Proccy's move may have been a catalyst but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

Re: Coleman
 

Didn't he chat to Bradford and turn it down?

Re: Coleman
 

No because they couldn't afford the compensation. I suspect he would have gone to Bradford had the chance arrived. In truth, they are a massive club compared to Rochdale.

Re: Coleman
 

I hate rochdale with a passion.

Re: Coleman
 

So far Coley`s been going to every club with a vacancy over the last few seasons. Bradford 2 or 3 times, Morecambe, Port Vale twice. Rochdale(this is the second time they wanted him), Bury. Any more anybody??

Rochdale job should go to Phil Brown. He`s working his way down the leagues. lol. And currently unemployed.

Re: Coleman
 

No disrespect to Dale, but will be amazed if Coley decides to go yon, as they always say "Its Good To Talk"

Re: Coleman
 

Those who attended Saturdays game,did you pick up that Coleman applauded the fans for at least 20 seconds longer than normal?,it crossed my mind something may be going on and the wife even picked up on it.If he goes he's on a no loser,if he keeps them up he's an hero,if they go down he can't really be blamed.
He's a very clever footballing man and won't go into anything blind

Re: Coleman
 

When was the first time?

Re: Coleman
 

Job for life at Stanley, 12 months tops at Dale. They are coming down - fact. If they are not top two this time next year he will be gone. Your move John. Think long and think hard.

Re: Coleman
 

Correct. Which i hope is considered while having talks. Rochdale is a step up, but not a big one in comparison to what he could have had, dale are a league 1 club at best, as were we are league 2. If he goes to dale and they get relegated then his reputation takes a hit.....

Re: Coleman
 

Doubt it. We fully expect to be relegated, the squad is all over the place and needs a lot of work. If Coleman performs a miracle, all well and good. Relegation and we'll be happy to stabilise. Few Dale fans are under any illusions where we stand in the grand scheme of things.

Re: Coleman
 

Why ash? yeh can't blame em fer wanting Coley? Should be a bigger club to me,hes earned that right, but Rochdale:eek: they aint much different to us, n unlike accyaggro i don't think its a step up, "Accrington Stanley" are known all oer the world, Who knows rochdale?:hehetable

Re: Coleman
 

It was a strong rumour and popular with Rochdale fans when Hill Did A Runner

Re: Coleman
 

That's a fair point. far more kudos in managing the world famous ACCRINGTON STANLEY than the largely unheard of Rochdale FC.

Re: Coleman
 

How can going to a club with a bigger ground, fanbase, facilities etc not be a step up??

Re: Coleman
 

If the unthinkable does happen and I think it will. Who the hell are we going to attract with the wages and budget? We would need something in Colemans departure deal to stop him asset stripping the squad.

Re: Coleman
 

Gary Lowe at Hyde is performing miracles, but lets not get ahead of ourselves shall we

Re: Coleman
 

agreed. no panic yet. he`s only got permission to talk to them.

Re: Coleman
 

A little bit more than permission, he wants to talk with Dale, but I certainly won't be celebrating until I get the official text.

Re: Coleman
 

It`s `Dale that wants to speak to him and a sensible man would listen and see what`s on offer.

Re: Coleman
 

Its that obvious to me.;)

Re: Coleman
 

and me

Re: Coleman
 

wow your aiming BIG.. Time for our chairman to step in and promise the earth..

Re: Coleman
 

Nail on the head there, Mab, but is it too late?

Re: Coleman
 

Just being realistic, they only just avoided relegation last season this year they are miles clear at the top, plus the manager has an interesting link up with hoddles academy, getting the best from free transfers and loan players is what coley is best at and what financially keeps us afloat, we need a manager who can do the same.

But like i say, we need not think about that just yet ;)

Re: Coleman
 

if the worst does comes to the worst and Coley leaves does that mean that Jimmy leaves as well could it be his chance to step up to the fore and become a manager. I for one would love to see him as manager as opposed to a merry go round manager who doesn't give a stuff about our club

Re: Coleman
 

Keep the faith.

Re: Coleman
 

i hope both him and jimmy stays ..

Re: Coleman
 

The offical statement...Club statement
Sunday 22nd Jan 2012


Stanley give permission for Coley to speak with Rochdale

http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/g...ew%20crest.jpgAccrington Stanley have this afternoon received an official request from Rochdale Football Club to speak to our manager John Coleman about the vacant manager post at Spotland.

Following communications with Rochdale Football Club, and after discussing the matter with John Coleman, the decision has been taken to allow him to speak with Rochdale.

Accrington Stanley chief executive Robert Heys commented "We will always be absolutely fair to John and Jimmy who have given their all to our club. It must be stressed that this is a very early point of a process and we will provide supporters with any updates should this develop."

Both John Coleman and Jimmy Bell are under contract at Accrington Stanley until the summer of 2015, and both will take charge of first team training tomorrow morning as usual.:( Process what process thought it was just talks!! IMHO this statement sends out the wrong signs to stanley fans:(

Re: Coleman
 

Not really it is a process mab...How far it goes is another thing.;)

Re: Coleman
 

Job for life that he says he loves vs a 2/3 yr contract that doesnt work out ,and he's on that out of work manager band wagon,or back to teaching !!

Not many are in a job for life that they love,he is very fortunate !!

Re: Coleman
 

Even a job for life is not everybody's cup of tea though ( or should that be glass of milk :) )

There comes a point where you want to take chances and have a different challenge. It would be very difficult for Stanley to match any club in the football league and even several leagues below when it comes to available finances to build a team and pit your wits at a higher level.

Having said that I still have the feeling JC won't go but will use it as a wake up call to the club.

Re: Coleman
 

If he goes, and we all hope he doesn't, I agree that there should be something to stop him asset stripping the squad at least during this transfer window but I can't help wondering whether that's why Bryan Hughes hasn't been given a contract yet. He wouldn't be covered by any such agreement.

Re: Coleman
 

For the record, 1st opologies to the dale fans for accusation of full rumour mongering - seems it had a ring of truth to it, the fact remains coleman is free to talk to dale.

If he goes he goes - its his decision at the end of the day, he could of gone at any other point during his reign at stanley, i'd rather a manager was here cos he wanted to be here to take on challenges we as a small club face. If he feels dale is the right opportunity & ticks his boxes then he may well go for it - cant blame the guy & theres little anyone can do if minds made up. Theres many factors to stay as to go, think stanley has hit the cross roads anyway on many factors.

Thing is do we think with hearts or minds in regards to stanley.......im trying to balance the both!

Re: Coleman
 

If he hangs on, he could be applying for Dalglish's job with Liverpool or t'Rovers. I do hope he is getting the message that the fans want him to stay and I hope too that the directors get this message too.

Re: Coleman
 

I noticed this aswell.

Re: Coleman
 

Daft as it sounds in Football, Coley has a job fer life at stanley, I certainly have no intention of speculating who? i can only echo what Bob Dobson n others have said,n leave speculation to those who need to.:rolleyes:

Re: Coleman
 

At the end of the day there is really only one person who knows what will happen and that is JC, at stanley he has probably more job security than nearly every other football manager but when all said JC is no different than the rest of us with bills to pay etc and might also see this as a new challenge with what I would think would be a considerable pay rise, on the down side though he would be jumping onto the football manager merry go round.
At some stage the king is likely to go and ply his trade elsewhere but it,s up to him where that is and when it happens, but IMHO Rochdale ain,t it and it,s up to our chairman and his team to step up and offer the man the world.

Re: Coleman
 

How much does the world cost?? The stark reality is we aint got enough money!! I dont know what our chairman & co can offer, other than hope that new stadium & facilities can improve, sure yeh proccys sale money would buy a player or 2 at push, but realistically dont know what more we can offer other than a guarantee of employment till contract is up or more time.:confused:

Re: Coleman
 

These quotes...

Speaking after Saturday's goalless draw at Aldershot, Coleman told BBC Radio Lancashire: "If the sum of your ambitions is to manage in League Two with a club who's on a small budget, I think our club wouldn't benefit from it.


"If our club didn't realise I was ambitious we'd possibly still be in the UniBond."


...or words to that effect, may have been what was missing from the end of the interview.


(Taken from the BBC website - BBC Sport - Rochdale to talk to Accrington Stanley's John Coleman)

I'll still believe it when it happens. Accy fans can take hope from Rob Heys bullish stance on Twitter.

Re: Coleman
 

Just to clarify, Radio Lancashire's post match interview is filmed for the website, with match related stuff going online. The full interview goes out on Radio Lancs.

This happens every week, so nothing unusual about this weekend's ending at the end of the discussion on the game. Hope this explanation helps :)

Re: Coleman
 

From Wikipedia :eek:

John Coleman (born 12 October 1962) is an English football manager and former player. He is currently manager of League Two side Accrington Stanley.

Coleman had a long playing career, mainly in non-league football for Kirkby Town, Burscough, Marine, Southport, Runcorn F.C. Halton, Macclesfield Town, Morecambe, Lancaster City and Ashton United. He also had a short spell in Wales with Rhyl. He was one of the most prolific non-league goalscorers in history, with over 500 goals to his name in a career spanning almost two decades. This success saw him play for the England National Game XI (the England team for semi-professional players) and receive many Player of the Year awards from the clubs he played for.[1]

He was appointed player-manager of Ashton United in 1997. After two years, he joined Accrington Stanley then playing in the Northern Premier League First Division. His tenure has seen the club win three promotions as champions to enter the Football League in 2006. He is also the club's longest ever serving manager. Furthermore, he was the third longest serving manager in England, behind Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsène Wenger until he joined Rochdale AFC.

Re: Coleman
 

Do not forget, anybody can update Wiki!!!! Maybe a playful Dale FAN????

Re: Coleman
 

You're probably right, and they're making a fool of themselves. Dale fans really shouldn't tweak the nipples of the Football Gods like that!

Re: Coleman
 

Could be. They forgot to alter the first sentence! :)

Re: Coleman
 

It's been rectified.......took me all of 30 seconds!

Re: Coleman
 

Rochdale Ob/Manchester Evening News report:

Dazed Dale badly need John Coleman?s fight | Rochdale Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Re: Coleman
 

Good article that----------not, funny thing is he has agreed terms over the weekend and here,s me thinking JC was down in Aldershot since Friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Coleman
 

He was down south, in the de vere - farnborough !!!!,with the team and coaches, defo no meetings or anything

Re: Coleman
 

Im saying nothing [cos i dont have fact] rumour jungle has be really rattled all i can say is be prepared be very prepared :(

Re: Coleman
 

On fishy site now sad sad day

Re: Coleman
 

Good luck Coley, we'll miss you :(

Re: Coleman
 

look on it as a new horizon. Good luck to John though.

Re: Coleman
 

Gutted - Good Luck and Thank you :(

Re: Coleman
 

Well there it is black & white, glad the club have been as quick with the news update to be fair. I did warn ya & some way had prepared for it since yesterday when rational head kicked in. Good luck John & jim, thanks for the many years service x

Re: Coleman
 

Feel sorry for you guys, losing a manager that you love is hard to take. It was exactly the same for us in the summer when hill left. Hope Coleman can produce the goods for us like he has for you. He will have a fully supportive set of fans and directors to work with and hopefully a decent amount of money due to the sales we have made of players of the past few years. Hope you guys get someone in sharpish to steady the ship. Most Dale fans will tell you we have a soft spot for Stanley so to see some of the comments about Dale was a little hurtful. Good look for the rest of the season!

Re: Coleman
 

Good luck JC and thank you for the glory years hope it works out but I will reserve judgement.

Re: Coleman
 

Good luck messages on new thread so leave them there as mark of respect of service to stanley.

Re: Coleman
 

I'd like to wish Accy all the very best, both this season and beyond. I sincerely hope that you have more immediate success in replacing Coleman (and Bell) than we had when attempting to replace Hillcroft.

Re: Coleman
 

To be fair, many of us was shocked at the thought & finding out by dale fans when not a whisper at our end, is more the reason it got a bit bitter, thanks to them now for the preparation or today would of been very painful to most.

Well done & congrats you have a great manager there, give him the patience & support he needs, he'll do his best by you all.

Re: Coleman
 

Completely understand, I sincerely wish you all the best for the rest of the season and although this is fantastic news for us I feel bloody awful for you guys.

Re: Coleman
 

You think you've had problems, its gonna be a very hard replacement & someone who likes a challenge of tiny budget & grass root facilities ....thats gonna be a hard task for us, particularly as hes been with us over a decade, dunno who would come forward for the job.

Re: Coleman
 

Gutted, gutted, gutted. Are we sure Jimmy is going with him? Doesn't say so on the fishy site.

Re: Coleman
 

Thanks:alright:

Aye well we're gonna have to dust ourselves off & battle thro another obstacle, its all love n war etc lol, its very very strange this end atm.

Re: Coleman
 

Good point, think people are presuming that he will folllow suit or could it be ..............erm i dont want to presume too much in case wrong.

Re: Coleman
 

It would probably be a greater shock than JC going if JB doesn't go with him

Re: Coleman
 

One would assume the current final negotiations will be about who he brings with him. Hill stripped our club of the entire backroom staff bar the physio

Re: Coleman
 

He can have Craney for nowt :D

Re: Coleman
 

As a Burnley fan we went through this same gutted feeling a couple of years ago. After a few hiccups it's not turned out to badly. Hope it goes the same way for Stanley

Re: Coleman
 

Ah so theres scope for jimmy to join u, it would be rather surprising if he doesnt, they come as a pair usually:)

Re: Coleman
 

Trouble is your a championship club ...........we're blumming league 2 & wont attract the management clientelle other than L2 or even non league, cant imagine a line up approaching us:(

Re: Coleman
 

There,s a couple at Stockport he should sign;).

Re: Coleman
 

Accy's official statement on accepting the approach mention both Coleman & Bell. Given that they've spent so much time working together, I expect having Bell alongside him was part of Coleman's 'personal terms'.

Re: Coleman
 

I'm absolutely devasted to be losing them both. I know they are very upset too but I suppose they have to think of their futures too :(

Re: Coleman
 

True point cant see them being seperated you have a bog off deal ;)

Re: Coleman
 

Jimmy is deffo going too :(

Re: Coleman
 

Still think the kudos of the Accrington Stanley name puts us in a better position to attract a wider and better range of candidates than similar sized clubs like Barnet, Macc, Daggers or even slightly bigger ones.

What concerns me is which players will be following Coley to Rochdale.

Re: Coleman
 

Which players would you be most gutted about losing? Currently I'd swap our entire team!

Re: Coleman
 

Craney, but keep it quiet

Re: Coleman
 

If coley were still here I would not worry about any because he would bring in more gems. I only worry about what any new manager would be able to do to keep momentum of the last 10 plus years. If it does come to clearout then I am sure there are plenty of lads keen to get 1st team league football..........Can we find another Coley to bring them along?? Sad but exciting times at the crown

Re: Coleman
 

:mad:Absolutely stunned and I actually feel sick!:(

Re: Coleman
 

Re: Coleman
 

We do have some cracking young players coming thro on youth & reserve side:alright:

Re: Coleman
 

Agree what worries me is - For how long?:eek:

Re: Coleman
 

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