Coleman
 

Anyone else seen that coleman is favourite for the Rochdale job, really hope that his long-term contract puts them off approaching.

He's now 6/4

Re: Coleman
 

I guess someone has to be favourite, but if the bookies knew what they are talking about Barnet wouldn't have gone home with three points.
:rolleyes:

Re: Coleman
 

Always get stuff like that, hardly a shock, i just ignore until summat develops,if it ever does.

Re: Coleman
 

Would he swap unfinished business that may lead to promotion for an increasingly doom laden relegation scrap?

I know a staunch Rochdale fan who told me they had had it nearly a couple of weeks ago

Any way he has a long contract that he would want to abide by.

Re: Coleman
 

I thought he was nailed on to go last time,but was wrong !!!!,bit daft goin now tho,nothing really to gain

Re: Coleman
 

But Chris Beech, the caretaker manager, is 8/11 or 4/7, depending on where you look.

Re: Coleman
 

This. Looks like we're gonna lose him. :(

Re: Coleman
 

Also just looked on their messageboard and he was at tranmere watching the game last night, its seems like it all points to the same thing.

Re: Coleman
 

A couple of weeks ago Sky Sports " understood" that Sean o' Driscoll was to be appointed manager of Preston. I think they get their information from internet message boards.

Re: Coleman
 

rochdale would have to ask the club to speak to coley, maybe mr heys and co, could clarify weather they have given permision to speak to rochdale, or am i wrong

Re: Coleman
 

It's on his doorstep isn't it ?

Re: Coleman
 

Actually i was just a reader of the board, saw the odds for the rochdale manager and bristol rovers jobs and saw no one mentioned it, thought it was worth a discussion.

Re: Coleman
 

Rochdale thread here for those waiting for the 'i've got inside info' poster from Dale.

I really hope there's no truth in it but he can't help but have cast a jealous eye over Westley getting PNE - and it would guarantee his successive progression record continues for at least one more year

Re: Coleman
 

It's just appeared on the LT website so there's obviously no truth in it at all :D

Rochdale want Accrington Stanley boss Coleman (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Re: Coleman
 

phew, that's a relief!

Re: Coleman
 

Rob heys on radio lancs sports news tonight taking questions!!

Re: Coleman
 

going nowhere according to Rob

Re: Coleman
 

Tis tosh all of it!made the forum come alive I guess lol!

Re: Coleman
 

Only today I heard that Coleman had been appointed manager of Wales.

Re: Coleman
 

The tripe that comes out of Flanagan's mouth in the LET truly is mindblowing.!!!

Re: Coleman
 

Trust me, he isnt going ANYWHERE............................ ;)

Confirmed ;)

Re: Coleman
 

Yeh but some clowns swallow it, i.e.the thread starter.:D

Re: Coleman
 

Press conference in Cardiff tomorrow to confirm it

Re: Coleman
 

LET rang Peter M. Peter M reminded them JC has got a contract.

JC takes in a huge number of live games; he watched Man City v Liverpool last week. Sky didn't run a story that he's talking over in Manchester.
Yes he was at Tranmere. Thats part of his role; he watches live football to ensure he knows what what!!

Coley MAY move on; BUT it will be on his terms!! My view is AFC Rochdale, isnt on his radar!:) He loves Accy too much:alright:

Re: Coleman
 

You can say what you want but Coleman will still be appointed manager of Wales tomorrow :D

Re: Coleman
 

That ones Chris Coleman, NOT KING Coley!!;)

FAW have got the wrong one??:)

Re: Coleman
 

Whoosh :D

Re: Coleman
 

From the fishy site...........

ASFC News Story > 4550

Re: Coleman
 

Always worrying when any club feels the need to make statements like that. It's a bit like when clubs announce their manager has the full backing of the board! :D

Re: Coleman
 

Never worrys me, i'm a Que sera type of person.

Re: Coleman
 

Never had you down as a Doris Day look-alike.:D:D

Re: Coleman
 

A little birdie :egged:tells me that Rochdale are lining up Leighton James for their managers job!!:evil: I reckon he would do them a world of good!!:end::alright:

Re: Coleman
 

I am afraid that it seems that Coleman was offered the job as our manager this morning - however he has failed to agree terms today. We would be happy if he came to us, I can understand why you wouldn't want to lose him. He will be looking for a longer contract than we will have offered him in all probability. Maybe our board will give him what he wants - who knows. We will have to wait and see. Whatever happens good luck for the rest of the season.

Re: Coleman
 

You mean this
Coleman fails to agree terms

Stanley boss will not be making switch to Rochdale

Accrington Stanley manager John Coleman will not be taking over at Rochdale after failing to agree personal terms, Sky Sports understands.
http://img.skysports.com/11/12/218x2...an_2692699.jpg John Coleman: Unsuccessful talks

Sources on Wednesday evening first revealed the story of the potential move, although League Two Accrington insisted they had received no approach.
Coleman,http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif regardless, has now decided against succeeding Steve Eyre,http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif who was sacked in December, after unsuccessful talks with League One strugglers Rochdale.
The 49-year-old has an impressive record during his time at Accrington, but he previously admitted taking the club as far as he can.
Coleman has been at the Crown Ground for more than a decade and his 400th game in charge in September 2008 ended in defeat to Rochdale.................. I would think if its true then The Dale could be in trouble with the league for approching JC behind the clubs back i might be wrong thou...

Re: Coleman
 

"Sky sources understand" - where do they dredge up such rubbish?

Re: Coleman
 

'Sky Sports understands" means nothing.
Some interesting rumours circulating our board at the moment on the subject of Coleman if you fancy taking a look.
FansNetwork/RochdaleAFC.com - The Rochdale Forum

Re: Coleman
 

Had a read,usual speculation nowt new there, seen it all before.;) It will probably be on Sky News in next month or so, Coleman to be next Pope.:D

Re: Coleman
 

I'd like to think this is the end of the saga and we can all forget it ever happened and live on with coleman at the helm, but we've seen it time and time again where a manager turns down an initial offer, but ends up jumping ship, eddie howe in recent times springs to mind and kieth hill turned down the dingles but still ended up leaving.

Re: Coleman
 

It's been quiet today from our end, no mention of Coleman so maybe it's all fizzled out. However like someone mentioned earlier, a similar happened to us with Keith Hill, although there was speculation that he was wanted at Barnsley he made it clear he didn't want to go. A few days later he had been approached but couldn't agree terms. We all breathed a sigh of relief then a week later he jumped ship and off he went to Barnsley. So maybe the story isn't over yet...
Whatever happens I hope you guys get a good deal - I always look out for your results and hope you have a good season.

Re: Coleman
 

Big rumours doing the rounds at Wycombe today that Coleman will take over at Dale next week.

This from the Manchester Evening News Rochdale reporter on twitter

@richpartington
It's as you were then for what I'm hearing will be Chris Beech's last in charge of the first team. Let's hope he can bow out with a win

Re: Coleman
 

Why would he go to a team that looks like it's going to be relegated :p rather than stay with one that could well have a shout at going up?

Apart from 3 1/2 years left on his contract, that is .............;)

Re: Coleman
 

Only letting you know what's coming out from this side, wondered if similar stories are coming out over your way.

Re: Coleman
 

Nope!! Nothing on this side of the border:D

Re: Coleman
 

that .................................................. .................................

Rochdale getting beat again!

Re: Coleman
 

That's the end of Beech. There will be news soon...

Re: Coleman
 

The drivel came from a local reporter.

Re: Coleman
 

That will be drivel n you repeat it.:rolleyes:

Re: Coleman
 

we've got one of those local reporters name of Flanagan always gets it right!

Re: Coleman
 

Agreed, theyre often wrong. If he'd been the first and only one to mention it this afternoon i wouldn't even have mentioned it.

Re: Coleman
 

Dont get me wrong, I really want Coley to stay, however I suspect that today's result COULD push the Dale board to renew their efforts to resurrect the deal and up the offer to JC.........let's hope not.

Re: Coleman
 

Brilliant!!!!!!:D

Re: Coleman
 

If they have already "Made" n offer, could they not be in serious crap? seeing as Rob Heys says there has been no approach.:confused:

Re: Coleman
 

Perhaps the word 'offer' was the wrong choice cashy, but the general point remains valid.

Re: Coleman
 

Sorry to bring bad news to you guys, but it IS looking that Coleman will be announced as Dale manager early next week. Skybet have even shortened Colemans odds on getting the Dale job to 1/4 odds on today. As for Dale getting in trouble with the league, I would question your chairmans honesty, as a compensation deal of around £70K has been agreed.
Rochdale Specials Next Permanent Manager Betting Odds | Football Specials Betting

Re: Coleman
 

BBC Manchester interview with Chris Beech saw the reporter ask him what he would do should Coleman arrive if rumours are to be believed. Beech didn't sound best pleased even being asked the question!

Re: Coleman
 

I wont believe it mate till he actually signs on that dotted line im afraid.

Re: Coleman
 

I'm not believing that we would accept £70,000 for Coleman's three-and-a-half-year contract. It simply doesn't equate.

I wouldn't begrudge him a move to a club with ambition to match his own and the means to carry out that ambition, but a move to a club like Rochdale would be a grave injustice to his talent and potential.

It's up to him to do what's right for his own career and I would find it impossible to hold anything against him wherever he went, but I can't see this particular move happening. He's better than Accrington, but he's also better than Rochdale, with all due respect.

Re: Coleman
 

70k?!?

Really cant see it to be honest either.

Coley has said he wants to get us in League One. Simple.

Re: Coleman
 

I think it's an ominous sign that there is no interview by Dan with Coley post Aldershot as usual. Has he finally got peed off with penny-pinching, with the last straw possibly being the failure to get Hughes signed up, so far. Who could blame him?

Re: Coleman
 

Signs could be looking ominous :(

Re: Coleman
 

I got told ( by somebody not connected with the club I hasten to add ) during the summer when he was touted for one of the various jobs going , that if Coley wanted to go then 12 months compensation would probably be accepted. I have no idea if that equates to 70k, but wouldn't it be Coley & Jimmy anyway ?

Re: Coleman
 

Why go to Rochdale ? A club on their way down he'd get the job in January and be sacked by May.

He will eventually move on but for it to be right for him it'd have to be reliably mid table League 1 club or higher - anything less than that would be pointless as he believes he can get Stanley there.

The only other way I could see it would be to move to a team with real potential for going up a few leagues i.e. Bradford.

I also can't see him leaving mid-season if I'm honest - he's had things his own way for how many years here - he'd need to have a summer to get things set up right.

Re: Coleman
 

Stranger things have happened - we never thought Hill would have left us like he did either. Especially after commenting that he would definitely not be going to Barnsley (the week before he went). Maybe Coleman fancies the challenge of coming to us - it certainly is not going to be an easy ride for whoever takes over, but he will have the full backing of a sound set of directors and a top chairman. I think Coleman is a good a man as anyone available to us to get us out of this mess .

Re: Coleman
 

Come on Mr Khan.

Time to get on the phone to Coley?

:enough:

Re: Coleman
 

Or we're just trying to get news and pass info on.

Re: Coleman
 

what i don't get in all of this is that Stanley are up there and fighting for the play offs and Rochdale are in a right chuffin mess and lets face it hardly the most revered club in the football league with the fantastic legacy of having 2 promotions in a life span of 105 years, one followed by relegation and the other about to be. I wish Coley all the best in whatever he does as he has been beyond a legend for us however Rochdale, Coley you are better than that fella. If he had gone to Preston would totally have understood but Rochdale you're having a laugh!

Re: Coleman
 

I know some will question 'reporters' info, but Richard Partington is Manchester Evening News and Rochdale Observers reporter, he very rarely gets things wrong , as most Dale fans will testify. Also rumours from other sources that it will happen early next week.
Tweets from Partington yesterday and today.....

Dale have been talking to the Accrington boss for the last few days - Accy looking for sum in region of £70k compensation
20 Jan

From what I hear, compensation package not so much the problem as the length of contract on offer - that's where talks broke down Thursday
20 Jan

But it's far from dead in the water - was always going to be difficult to complete today with Dale going away to Wycombe, Accy to Aldershot
20 Jan

It's as you were then for what I'm hearing will be Chris Beech's last in charge of the first team. Let's hope he can bow out with a win
4 hours ago

Talks have definitely been taking place - I expect further developments early next week
4 hours ago

John Coleman remains the target - talks held this week but couldn't reach agreement. Keep eye on it over next few days
4 hours ago

It's not a done deal yet with Coleman, but it's in the pipeline. As for Nicky, think he'll be given chance under new manager
4 hours ago

Told it's not wrapped up yet - but it's being worked on. I expect it to happen early next week
4 hours ago

Re: Coleman
 

Conspiracy theorists... I am here!

There's no video online yet cos I've been flying solo and have to get back from Aldershot. It is uploading as we speak.

As part of my Radio Lancashire duties I asked Coley about the Rochdale link (again) and he said the following (I'm paraphrasing slightly, but I'm sure you can get the full interview online)

He's had 12 happy years at Accrington and doesn't see why that can't continue but he is ambitious and the height of his ambition isn't league two. That's good for the club, who would still be in the Unibond if he didn't have ambition.

That's it!

Re: Coleman
 

rob heys was'nt at the aldershot game today, wonder were he was spotland, crown ground, wycombe or preston , your guess rochdale fans, because i know where he was.
fact

Re: Coleman
 

One more thing (as Colombo would say) - there's been no approach from Rochdale about taking Coley, so how compensation figures are being bandied around I have no idea...

Re: Coleman
 

He's going. That was the chance to say so. Managers always say never say never about moving on, but should have said I am.not going to Dale. You are better than this John. Time to
.be honest.

Re: Coleman
 

Well it was one of those but I'll not spoil it for ya :D

Re: Coleman
 

Can i remind people about swearing on the forum, its a family site even if its topically nerving :)

Re: Coleman
 

It's not unknown for managers to use speculation to strenghten their buying powers with current employers ;):)

Re: Coleman
 

Clutching at straws time? ;)

Re: Coleman
 

Well where was he then? It's not exactly classified information is it, and you're not going to get hauled up before the Levenson Enquiry, are you?

Re: Coleman
 

Do ya reckon ? :D. I can absolutley guarantee you my current manager will not be leaving the club to join Rochdale :)

Re: Coleman
 

What happened to dalenumber1? Mind you, number 2 sounds about right for you, cos you are full.of it son.

Re: Coleman
 

Ok we will see. Like I said before, Hill said he definitely wan't going anywhere then he jumped ship to Barnsley the following week. I think it will all hinge on what can be offered on Monday. We will have to be patient.

Re: Coleman
 

First of all I am nobody's son, and secondly I am not full of it, I am just interested in what is going to happen with Coleman and what you the Accrington fans are saying on the matter. Like I have said in the past, I have a lot of respect for Accrington and wish you all the best whatever happens.

Re: Coleman
 

Your chairman is either dishonest, or you dont have the right contacts. It's a fact Dale and Coleman HAVE been in talks. That would not happen without compo being agreed, surely you agree on that. Dale would not go behind Accy's board and put themselves at risk of breaching FL rules. You can refute that compo has been agreed at around £70K between the 2 clubs, time will tell.

Re: Coleman
 

these rochdale fan's know alot of stuff about our little club, we get more information of them than we do from the club get them signed up to update oursite

Re: Coleman
 

Its like the proccy move - its a case of believe it when i see it, many a clubs been after coley since 2006 offering the earth, thing is Dale our manager has a lot of input with our club doubt dale would give him the clout to rise above team management????? if so then think possible consideration to go is strong.

Re: Coleman
 

My word we have some village idiots on here.

Anyway...

The only official source available - our club's statement -informs us that Stanley have had no approach from Rochdale. Anything aside from that at this point is hearsay. We have had no update since the statement.

So, going from the official source, rather than hearsay, it would suggest that no deal has been agreed or even put forward or even whispered.

I'm going to take the old KIPAX stance of, "until it's on the official site, it hasn't happened".

Keep the faith.

Re: Coleman
 

dany robson's name keeps appearing on the twitter page with partington, mybe ask her what she knows

Re: Coleman
 

Ok. And I certainly haven't come on a wind up mission. More to share/find out info.

Re: Coleman
 

Ok will take that in good faith & in all seriousness, so Rochdale ... what do you want to know? Im sure we'll answer em, tho it appears you may know more than we do, but we'll give it a bash:alright:

Take it away...... dale q's please:D:D:D:D:D

Re: Coleman
 

Hello & welcome:D, thank you, yes i think even stanley fans are amazed how well we have done & how far on a very very very tight budget, i dont know how he does it - i have asked but not been fully enlightened:D

Re: Coleman
 

Wish I could start again. About 30 years ago. With a different club.

Re: Coleman
 

Why is that? would of thought things were going good at dale, recent promotion? Its damn hard work coming thro the leagues on very little especially with the big money boys around, bring back old divisions eh?

Its hard life a stanley fan battling in the big footy pond & the smallest:)

Re: Coleman
 

Hello! I'm Brierls and I'm a Dale fan. Will Cilla be along shortly to start the questioning?

No surprises that I've registered to talk about Coleman. I don't suppose I'm going to add anything that you don't already know, or perhaps want to hear, but wanted ask a few questions.

Like the Dale fans above have posted, there are very strong 'noises' from usually reliable sources that Coleman is to take over at Dale early next week. I've tried not to get carried away with the rumours, for fear of being let down if Coleman doesn't take over (we desperately need a man of his calibre in charge!) but events over the last few days aren't doing anything to dispel the rumours. I don't trust the 'Sky Sports understands...' stories, but the people feeding the info on this occasion are usually spot on. Coleman's lack of denial about the Dale job, despite having several opportunities to do so, should be ringing alarm bells and now the bookies look to have suspended betting on the 'Next Rochdale Manager' market. It all points to one thing.

So, onto my question(s)...there can be little doubt that Coleman has done a fantastic job at Accy. He's pretty much done for Accy what Hill did for Dale. The thing is with Hill, it wasn't just Hill that was responsible for the success, it was Hill and Flitcroft. They were seen as equal partners at Dale, and now its the same at Barnsley. Is it the same with Coleman and Bell? Or is Coleman very much the main man with Bell as his trusty assistant? IF Coleman did come to Dale, would you expect Bell to follow?

Cheers.

Re: Coleman
 

The 49-year-old remains committed to Stanley and is keen to stay fully focused on tomorrow’s League Two match at Aldershot, but was non-committal when asked about the Rochdale links yesterday.
“Well I’ve got a job here, haven’t I?” Coleman said, when asked whether he would be interested in the job. “It’s hypothetical. For one they’ve got a caretaker in place and two I’m manager of Accrington.
“There’s been no contact with the clubs as far as I can gather from our club so it’s pointless thinking about it.
“All I can concentrate on is trying to win on Saturday.”


Good luck when you get relegated this year :alright:

Re: Coleman
 

Football league show tonight opening headlines Manish Bhasin stated that coleman had turned down Rochdale and commited to Stanley, so as others have said until something changes and it,s in black and white I am quite unconcerned, but may i suggest the Dale fans on here don,t get to excited as I feel you may come down to earth with a bump, I think Rochdale may be better of concentrating their energy elsewhere in the hunt for a new manager.

PS there is a man at Blackburn who might be right up your street, he could have ya playing conference football in the blink of an eye.

Re: Coleman
 

To all the Rochdale fans coming on here; and doing what has quite rightly been quoted as "spouting" ......

If you want to discuss Rumour...Conjecture..Conspiracy theories, blah, blah,blah....I'm sure you've got you're own forums to post your comments on....

Bradford fan's came spouting the same garbage...........and disappeared without comment....They couldn't afford Coley & Bell.....They were ( and probably still are ) a much bigger club than Rochdale ( and Stanley ) will ever hope to be...

If I was Coleman ( which obviously I'm not) I would be asking myself a few questions which he's probably asked himself before (with interest from much bigger clubs than Rochdale )...Assuming of course the compensation can be paid........


1) Can I seriously improve myself and enhance my reputation as a manager by moving from Stanley or to another club (for another club, substitute that for Rochdale, or any other club for that matter ) with the offer that is on the table now?????

2) Can I seriously repeat the same successes that I have had during twelve successful years at Stanley with my new club??? Thus enhancing my reputation as a sought after manager??????????

3) Do my (potential) new employers have the resources to help me with my longer term goal ( i.e. enhance my own stock as a football manager )???????

4) If I make a mistake taking another job which does not work out , where does that leave my career????

Personally, I think Coleman choosing Rochdale would be a disaster....He'd be taking a gamble with a club that's already a bookies favourite ( and for that fact, any realistic football fans favourite) to achieve relegation from League 1.....

If he keeps them up, he'd be doing the same next season at Rochdale...fighting to keep an unfashionable team in a league that they don't have the resources to stay in......If they go down......big BLACK mark on Coley's so far impeccable C.V. !!!

Compare that to staying at Stanley..... Getting us to the play offs again hopefully (or with a good run of form it could even be better!! )

As clubs, There's only a difference of about 500 -600 fans !!! Rochdale may have the extra 500-600, but ambition wise we're way in front of that lot.


Neither Accy or Rochdale will win the Premier League....But I hope, IF Illyas reads this...IF we're an ambitious club.....back the man....back Coley (AND Bell )!!!!

Give Coley and Bell another improved contract !!! If only for another 12 months (extending what they've already got) and giving the two of them better terms !! Make it even harder or (even more expensive) for anyone else to take the dynamic duo away !!!! Where would we get two better men??????

If only we'd give Coley a little money to spend...We've spent sod all in years.....Give Coley £100k to spend....... It might get us to League 1....I'm sure it won't be wasted!!!

Re: Coleman
 

You know what's being said at "the Accy end of things" - the club has made an official statement.

"To share information" - do you mean to "to share rumour"? If so, are you not disappointed by now? We have no rumour to share - it all comes from Rochdale.

If John Coleman goes, then he goes. Good luck to him. He has done a remarkable job at Stanley as we all know. But he is not indispensable. Yes, he will be a very hard act to follow - but there will be someone out there who will succeed him.

In the meantime, may I suggest to all Dale fans that you abandon your fruitless search for rumour and gossip, your reliance on media people supposedly in the know and your endless quotation of betting odds.

Re: Coleman
 

that have now been suspended :(

Re: Coleman
 

Thank you, an excellent post:alright: in fact tried looking last night & the bradford wanting coley thread ended up being deleted such as the verosity of the visiting fans, i will have to have an ettiquette rule page for visiting fans from other clubs its not a standard footy forum where anything goes as of likes of free forums.

Re: Coleman
 

But to be honest, Dale fans haven't done much wrong on this thread. In fact the warning given for swearing was because of posts from Accrington fans.

Maybe aim an etiquette rule page for all football fans rather than those from other teams.

Re: Coleman
 

To be fair I wouldn't take too much notice of this - with such a small market as "Next Rochdale Manager" it'll be a case of too much money has been put on Coley due to the comments of Rochdale's "right 99% of the time" reporter and so they will close it because the bets aren't being spread to cover any payouts.

Re: Coleman
 

Give me chance, im working on it, problem with these sort of threads get out of hand too quickly, im sure if stanley fans came on your board mob handed then the sharp shrift would apply also:rolleyes::confused:

I dont go on other footy team boards they are territorial rightfully:D

Now ....can we get back to the topic of discussion [im now bending over backwards] are we discussing rumour, fact or just want a low down of coleman?