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fc:stanley

27-03-2012 10:51

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I also back cooky 100% but he needs to stop the negativity! Macca you are going far into it now regarding promotion and money and that isnt what im trying to get at! After and before matches he seems negative this season and says negative things. He inherited a squad on the up and every game because its not his squad and because of injurys hes been constantly negative which leads up to the crowd not being happy and also it looks to be rubbing off on some the players. The negativity is regarding to that we cant go any further this season and that everything is out of reach.

Give the fans hope?! Why should i come to the game tonight if you dont think we can climb the table and get the wins?! The players seem to be confident , liam does, why not cooky?!

AccyMad

27-03-2012 10:56

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Anyone with any worries etc about anything Cooky and/or Leam are doing will be able to ask them personally on Thursday night at the Q & A session in the clubhouse - could make for an interesting evening

maccawozzagod

27-03-2012 11:16

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 980297)

Macca you are going far into it now regarding promotion and money and that isnt what im trying to get at, so knock it off or I'll arm wrestle ya

fair do's then - based purely and simply on his comments and whether it may adversely affect things .... probably. It's hard to tell though as the lip synching on the video's and the fact that he has three different voices means that I can only think of Eurotrash when I watch the vid's. I keep expecting some nude ladies to wobble their bits across the screen :)

cashman

27-03-2012 11:33

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 980297)

Am i missing summat here F.C.? To me the rot, fer whatever reason started whilst Coley was here, Barnet fer instance.:confused: Since then we lost Management Duo,Key Players fer various reasons, With arguably the smallest squad in the league, We beat the gills,think that was Leams game? but could easy have lost it in second half,:confused:

AsFc62

27-03-2012 12:48

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I understand exactly where FC is coming from.

I mentioned this a few weeks back. Whilst a level of pragmatism is great in football particularly for a club like ours, Cook should be encouraging belief. Obviously you can allude to false sense of belief but I mean in general.

Has cook come out saying we're going to win this game? NO has he come out saying we can still get Play offs? NO.

Coincidentally, we have won 1 in 9 and the playoffs does look a stretch to far.

I STILL BELIEVE.

Revived Red

27-03-2012 14:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 980301)

It's not about "the rot", Cashy; it's about what the manager says. Nor is it about the injuries. It's about talking things up. If I am an employee, I want to hear my boss(es) being positive. If I am a football supporter, I want to hear my manager being upbeat about my team. Certainly I don't want to hear him, within a few days of being appointed, talking about having to move backwards before being able to move on. It may be true - I just don't want to hear him say that. If I were a lukewarm supporter, that sort of language would not persuade me to go to a game. I've drawn this comparison before, but look at what Martin O'Neill has done at Sunderland. Listen to the way he talks about his team and contrast that with the way Steve Bruce used to talk about the same squad.

Revived Red

27-03-2012 14:04

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 980298)

Anyone with any worries etc about anything Cooky and/or Leam are doing will be able to ask them personally on Thursday night at the Q & A session in the clubhouse - could make for an interesting evening

Not "anyone". Only those within a reasonable distance of Accrington. The rest of us who do not have that privilege must be content with expressing our thoughts on here.

maccawozzagod

27-03-2012 14:15

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I won't be going myself but perhaps someone who is would like to collate a few questions from our geographically challenged supporters?

Dan	27-03-2012 14:56

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 980317)

Not "anyone". Only those within a reasonable distance of Accrington. The rest of us who do not have that privilege must be content with expressing our thoughts on here.

Questions can be submitted in advance by anyone, anywhere. That's the point of asking for them :)

At the moment, only one person has sent any but there's still plenty of time.

cashman

27-03-2012 15:01

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Bottom line is, Some people live in the real world, some live in dreamland, meself i prefer things straight, Point is whatever a manager says- Yeh won't suit everyone.:rolleyes:

Alvin the chipmunk

27-03-2012 15:04

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Agree 100% Cashy. No nonsense!!! As the John Smiths adverts state. :)

baldy

27-03-2012 15:40

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 980293)

A vital part of a manager's job is, in current jargon, to talk the talk which is to inspire belief. We all know how difficult it is to persuade the people of Accrington to support their local club, but if the words of the manager are less than inspirational, that only makes the problem worse.

A few weeks ago, macca, you wrote this: Cook wants to be positive about what we CAN do rather than us feeling sorry for ourselves about what we can't do. We can't go out and big wages for marquee signings but we can bring talent through etc

The fans are massive particularly for a club like us and we have to bring the feelgood factor back.

I do agree that, as things currently stand, we could not possibly cope with promotion. But an appearance in a play-off final at Wembley would be fantastic. I'm not convinced that the manager's words, right from the start, have helped to bring the "feelgood factor". Yes, he may be being realistic; but that will not bring the crowds to the Crown.

Nor did Coleys 12/13 year reign bring the crowds to the Crown ;)

Revived Red

27-03-2012 16:05

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 980320)

Questions can be submitted in advance by anyone, anywhere.

How? AccyMad says people can ask the questions "personally". Many apologies - I took that to mean "in person".

Revived Red

27-03-2012 16:19

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Originally Posted by baldy (Post 980336)

Nor did Coleys 12/13 year reign bring the crowds to the Crown ;)

Announced on 10 May 2010:

ACCRINGTON Stanley’s average gate rose by an impressive 40 per cent this season – finally moving them off the bottom of the Football League’s attendance list.

Surely you are not suggesting that attendances in 2011 were the same as in 2000?

Pendle Red

27-03-2012 17:08

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It's still early days in Cookies tenure and he had big shoes to fill, it has been difficult in one sense watching play off hopes fade away but I am also a realist and realise there was going to be a bedding in process not just for the management but also the players which is still ongoing and probably will be with injuries & suspensions alike but it gives the management team the chance to look at what they have perhaps identify targets for next season?

The acid test will be over the summer in terms of what players he can keep and bring in this is where it will be tough but hopefully the Board will back him as much as possible.

Thursday is a good chance to ask questions of where Cookie thinks we are and his plans for developing the squad my only concern this season has been the amount of loanees in and out it must be difficult to produce a balanced side with that happening.

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