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DAV007 04-10-2013 21:27

James Beattie - Do the Honourable Thing
 
James Beattie is the manager of Accrington Stanley

League games alone -
10 played
0 wins
2 draws
8 defeats

Goals Scored - 6
Goals Conceded - 18

Total Points -2

After 10 league games, no one can deny the results are shocking/appalling/diabolical/unacceptable.


My biggest problem with James Beattie as our manager is simple, its his tactical knowledge and ability,
He doesn't have any.
He doesn't know how to change a game
His formations, team instructions, game plan, substitutions, player selection is all amateur.
He clearly is not cut out to be a football league manager.


The solution?
Easy.
We have a man in waiting who is available, who is proven, a good tactician, a man with ambition, a man who gets the best out of players at this level, he is use to working on a tight budget, is proven under pressure, and if the damage already done does take us down - has a track record to lead us back into the football league. And more importantly, is motivated to re-build his reputation after the Rochdale affair.

John Coleman - Save Our Season.
He would relish the chance to drag us up the table.

In Summary;
James, do the honourable thing and resign.

Finally,
learn from Barnet, don't leave it to late to make a change.
And never accept relegation as inevitable, we have a chance to make a change now and do something about it.
Now is the time.

Billy Casper 04-10-2013 21:45

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And so it begins !!!! :rolleyes:

mab 04-10-2013 22:22

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Leam R John C Jimmy B along with Dave O all at the game tonight.

Grimps 04-10-2013 22:39

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Poor poor crap 1833 so two attacks by accy then daggers score. Why why why take hunt off.

Chubbyman 04-10-2013 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078159)
James Beattie is the manager of Accrington Stanley

League games alone -
10 played
0 wins
2 draws
8 defeats

Goals Scored - 6
Goals Conceded - 18

Total Points -2

After 10 league games, no one can deny the results are shocking/appalling/diabolical/unacceptable.


My biggest problem with James Beattie as our manager is simple, its his tactical knowledge and ability,
He doesn't have any.
He doesn't know how to change a game
His formations, team instructions, game plan, substitutions, player selection is all amateur.
He clearly is not cut out to be a football league manager.


The solution?
Easy.
We have a man in waiting who is available, who is proven, a good tactician, a man with ambition, a man who gets the best out of players at this level, he is use to working on a tight budget, is proven under pressure, and if the damage already done does take us down - has a track record to lead us back into the football league. And more importantly, is motivated to re-build his reputation after the Rochdale affair.

John Coleman - Save Our Season.
He would relish the chance to drag us up the table.

In Summary;
James, do the honourable thing and resign.

Finally,
learn from Barnet, don't leave it to late to make a change.
And never accept relegation as inevitable, we have a chance to make a change now and do something about it.
Now is the time.

I agree with you DAV007 about JC he certainly gets the best out of his squad,did a few not bet against themselves to win ,and do you honestly believe it was an isolated case.....Who else was involved certainly not only the players punished.If he's so highly rated why hasn't he received a single interview.
I believe JB should be given a chance to turn things round till Christmas,and get the rest of the squad fit at his disposal.It helps no one be so negative when support is needed for the club and I don't think JC would have put his hand in his pocket to pay the clubs tax bill unless of course he'd had a good win off the bookies!!!

shakermaker 04-10-2013 22:44

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Speculation is inevitable after such a lifeless performance in such important circumstances - and I am unsure whether JB has the ability to get us out of this - but I'm not comfortable with how disrespectful the message in this thread is. That's just me.

Chubbyman 04-10-2013 22:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 1078177)
Poor poor crap 1833 so two attacks by accy then daggers score. Why why why take hunt off.

I think he was in danger of getting red carded!!!

AccyMad 04-10-2013 23:15

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Same old, same old from Dav007 - couldn't wait for that tenth game limit you so generously gave to Beatts before you started bleating could you?
Ok, we are in a perilous position but do you seriously believe with the injuries we have had/still have that anyone could have fared any better?
Tonight was not pretty but the lads could not be faulted for effort - Daggers were not that great in football ability although they were quicker than us & caught us twice on the break in what was a pretty scrappy game overall.
I was pretty sad walking off the ground tonight, in fact instead of the usual ritual of going in the Crown & putting the world to rights over a couple of lagers I found myself coming home, opening a bottle of wine & catching up on Corrie but I will still be there at the next game cheering on James & our lads - not berating them on here - that does no-one any good at all. Get behind the team & manager instead of satisfying your own agenda by proclaiming the supposed benefits of having Coley & co back in charge. (Rant over)

Mr Matthew 04-10-2013 23:20

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10 games to judge seriously.

Who are we Blackburn Rovers???

Imagine if Sir Alex had only been given 10 games to prove himself.

Give the man a REAL chance!!!

yonmon 04-10-2013 23:20

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Just watched JB's interview on t'Fishy...he says that there is enough in that dressing-room to win two or three 'on the spin'.

Can, after tonight's efforts,the most ardent supporter believe this to be true ?. One has to admire the show of loyalty to his players but shudder at this almost unreal assessment of a situation which so far has made opposing sides look so much better all round than The Reds and defeat seem to be inevitable.
I must also question here his choice of Captain. Unless there is some form of Telepathic links which we don't know about existing between Luke Joyce and his team via which he can inject effort and enthusiasm into their play, then it appears to me that the drive and dynamism so badly needed on the pitch at the present time is sadly missing.... and does this in turn explain his own poor form ?.

Quo Vadis Stanley ??.

maccawozzagod 05-10-2013 00:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1078181)
Speculation is inevitable after such a lifeless performance in such important circumstances - and I am unsure whether JB has the ability to get us out of this - but I'm not comfortable with how disrespectful the message in this thread is. That's just me.

i'm usually loathe to criticise individuals, be they players or managers, but BT just doesn't seem to have the x factor or whatever it is that turns players into teams.

One can't doubt that he is a gentleman, eloquently spoken and seems to care about the club evident in his general demeanour. Neither could one doubt that he has been able to pull in favours to get us a decent player or two - but they haven't been able to win games despite playing some half decent football at times. I'm not sure what the Carling Opta stats are for our shots on target ratio but from what I've seen, heard or read that is our main problem, we don't get any shots on goal. For a striker of some repute in his day this is a worrying statistic.

We have a talented squad he keeps telling us, so why aren't they winning?
  • Luck and injuries aren't helping matters but every team has that problem.
  • We are told that professionalism and preparation is correct so that isn't the problem.
  • We know that it isn't a lack of character from the players because he does his background checks before he signs them
That leaves tactics or motivation ...

maccawozzagod 05-10-2013 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1078188)
I'm not sure what the Carling Opta stats are for our shots on target ratio but from what I've seen, heard or read that is our main problem, we don't get any shots on goal. For a striker of some repute in his day this is a worrying statistic.

The Football League | Stats | Club Shooting


18 shots on target, not even 2 shots a game average :(

winstanley asfc 05-10-2013 01:39

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Maybe James Beattie will one day become a successful manager or assistant manager,but at a club that can afford to give him money to spend. It would be no disgrace for him to resign. His first attempt at football management wont be seen as a black mark on his cv as the football world expects any Stanley manager to be unsuccessful!:(

Div3North 05-10-2013 07:52

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[QUOTE=shakermaker; I'm not comfortable with how disrespectful the message in this thread is. That's just me.[/QUOTE]]

No it isn't. But we don't do respectful

Well, some of us don't

smudgie 05-10-2013 08:15

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First time ive heard a manager out chant in a stanley end since we where bottom of the Unibond and lost away at Bamber Bridge in about 1998.

Not nice :(

But people pay there money and are entitled to their opinions I suppose??

I really dont know what I would do, as its obvious we cant afford to sack him.


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