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:theband: I see David Dunn is put his hat in the ring

David Dunn in the running to replace James Beattie as Accrington Stanley manager | Mail Online

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Even though I take any articles with zero sources such as those so often found in the Daily Hate with a pinch of salt, I hope the board have learned not to gamble again on a player with no experience as a manager. We need skilled leadership now more than ever, not someone just there for their name.

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Correct.
Nicky Hunt has never been a leader and already people are asking for him to be appointed.

We got fortunate with Leam who just kept us in the league, likewise with Beattie. If we make the same choice again, we may not be so fortunate.

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We have a manager in Paul Stephenson and I don't see any reason not to let him show what he can do.
Don't know how many ("stinking") badges Mr.Dunn may already have but, if it's none, I don't see why he can't start as player-coach under PS. His skills on the pitch would be a tremendous asset to the club.

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I think Dunny is at least B licenced. Who's to say Paul Stephenson wants the job ? He may be happy to do what he has been doing, with somebody else taking the media role ;)

If there is any truth in the Dunn rumour then there is an advantage, Stanley would get a quality attacking midfielder as well as a manager with a lot of contacts, and a Stanley fan as well

( Can't believe as a Burnley fan I just praised him :) )

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I believe he's passed his coaching badges

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I think he had his B licence before Beattie did

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I can't recall fully ,but did he not go to Ireland to complete his badges??? If i'd known in advance I could have arranged for him to give DAV a lift (one way).

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A quick Google search and it would appear he did Belfast with Joey Barton and Mendietta amongst others. I hope the exam consisted of kicking Barton as far up in the air as possible :D

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Would appear the players are backing Stephenson, so presumably he has said he wants it. If thats correct it's obviously the least disruptive and easiest option for the board

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also the cheapest option for the club and Stevo must have guided Beats when he started

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That's what makes me wonder if he wants to be the boss or assistant. He was already there when Leam left :confused:

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Good point Dave......maybe he wasn't wanting it then or ready for it ....now he might want to finish what he and James started to prove a point?

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according to sky sports Dunn has passed his A coaching
Transfer news: Blackburn midfielder David Dunn hoping to prolong playing career | Football News | Sky Sports

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Shocked that you guys are looking for a new manager. Really thought that you'd got a good one in Beatie. But I wonder if the fact his family still live on the South coast had anything to do with it?

Wouldn't be surprised if the Chorley pair are in with a shout for the job.

Somehow can't see Coley coming back but it's a funny old game so who knows?

Whoever gets the job just hope he keeps you guys in the league.

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Some interesting candidates without a job at the moment - the question is do the club take a gamble on Stephenson or Flitcroft or bring in a more experienced manager like a ronnie Moore. Not sure what I'd do - it's a big call.

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For me the group of players we have will back anyone who's in charge,that's the Acci way,but I feel we can't be taking risks as we are still only just above the drop zone.
PS has always been a coach(I stand to be corrected),so it's a tricky one as Leam found out.
Might upset a few but I would have JB and JC back.
It makes sense,but only if we can afford it,
Since they left all we have done is fight relegation and I remember them managing the club thro a period of the players not getting paid for three months,most managers would have walked but they fostered an unbelievable team spirit.

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Don't think Ronnie Moore would be in the running, wasn't he sacked by Tranmere for breaching the betting rules

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What, and just sack Paul Stephenson?

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That's easy to say when they're pals of yours F19,surely Paul Stevenson deserves to be treated with a bit more respect.Your own son had a long spell out with his ankles after months of constant pain killing injections that ended up nearly crippling him.Lets have a manager that takes care of his squad.

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Just like getting rid off Lynch because we couldn't afford him, we have to do the right thing for the club.
We are not a charity.

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Didn't need four keepers DAV....and I think Lumley's more than proved his worth.

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Ryan Nelson.

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Chubbyman, I know we had a good chat at Shrewsbury,about this but I don't hold any grudges,but I just want the best for acci, we lost lodgy,so no reason for PS to leave, I would be surprised if he would want the job full time anyway !
It's a different animal coaching than managing, bury fans will say the same ! Lol

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I've nothing against JC n JB but lets give SP a chance to see what he can doo :) starting this tuesday at oxford and saturdays game at northampton ,Paul might not want the job full time but would JC want to keep him when JB is his second. F19 who would Dean like to see take the reins??

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Couldn't answer that mab,as I don't know!,to be honest he's probably fell out with them all ! ;)
In reality there all pros, so they should always give their all for any manager

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Very diplomatic F19 ;) Better off with the Devil you know then!! Paul Stevensons RED and WHITE ARMY :D Has a certain ring to it Don't you think ;)

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Chubbyman, Cashman and any others thinking of throwing your season tickets in the bin or worse giving them to dav007 if JC/JB do come back, think about this, the club is not about the manager, the players or the board, its about us the fans.

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[QUOTE=johnc;1117021]Chubbyman, Cashman and any others thinking of throwing your season tickets in the bin or worse giving them to dav007 if JC/JB do come back, think about this, the club is not about the manager, the players or the board, its about us the fans.[/QUOTE] Then a full statement will follow in the morning from Peter Marsden about the mutual concent and what its all about!! Then we'l all know the truth and we can stop all this speculation:rolleyes:

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Personally, I think JC and JB would be a backward step. Sure they were Gods when they were last here, but they walked to an unsuccessful spell at Rochdale and Southport and as far as I can see, they are not lighting any fires at Sligo. Maybe their bubble has burst. Would like to see PS take up the reins (if he wants it and the next 2 result of the next 2 games are positive). Or if not, then as coach to some like Flitcroft at Chorley or even David Dunn

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The other point was that Lynch was on non-contract terms and has been stated, he would have been the 4th goalkeeper, Mustoe and Connor Martin were on a months contract, Alabi, an unsuccessful loan. We assume they were released due to end of contracts. Any other assumption is pure speculation.

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Thats not true Ozzy, they did achieved their target at southport which was to avoid relegation.
Please go onto port chat, they will tell you JC transformed the team and only due to his fall out with the chairman, is the reason he left.

Likewise at Sligo, he arguably gave them one of their greatest victories with a win over Rosenberg. Again, he kept them competitive and has received praise from both the local press and fans.

The only thing people can throw at Coley in his long career is his experience at Rochdale; he took over them in the relegation places and they stayed there.
In my book, its never a bad thing to get a scum bag club like Rochdale relegated.

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If they follow previous scenarios when Cook and Richardson left and the assistant was then given the job then it will be Stephenson.

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It was Stephenson himself who didn't follow that scenario. He was assistant to Leam but didn't take the job when he left. No idea if that is because he wasn't offered it or he didn't want it

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If you think one seasons play offs is sufficient for them to come back, fine. But for years we were relegation dodging with them at the helm. They left because they had taken the club as far as it could be taken (their words not mine). Why can't all Stanley supporters dream of doing a little Wigan or the previous incarnation of Wimbledon who struggled for years in the 4th division and eventually got to the promised land of the Premiership. Granted neither are there now. That is my dream certainly. No I stick by what I said, JC and JB, thanks but no thanks. If you think keeping Southport out of the drop zone is successful and then leaving because they could not get their own way, carry on. Beating a team from Norway that even Stanley on their day could beat, so be it. Not what I deem as successful. On Rochdale, look what Keith Hill has done for them.
Whatever happens and whoever takes over the helm at Stanley, they will have my backing :)

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Anyone see a manager other than Coleman taking charge?

John Coleman early favourite to return to Accrington Stanley | Sackrace Football News

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Betvictor odds for the new manager
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Outback Ozxy,

You ignorance and the simplicity almost tabloid like approach you use to form your views is shocking.

Do your own research

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Davo's ire is all that some of us need to confirm that Outback must have a good point.
Davo - the Lord Haw Haw of this web site.

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I suppose that means like the research thats been done,that yeh were invited to consider by a supporter, which yeh never turned up fer, maybe thats cos it may have been deterimental to yer hero?:rolleyes: now that should be regarded as tabloid mentality, a refusal to even consider.!!:rolleyes:

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I think you will find my research is FACT, plain and simple. Read my signature, the views I state on here are my own, if you don't like them - TOUGH! I will not though lower myself to your standards with name calling!
:tongueout

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DAV007 if you had read my post properly this was the bit at the end and I stand by every word whoever ends up as manager, be it JC and JB or Stephenson or A.N.Other.

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With no inside info at all my money is on Coley getting the job. We have no one at the club with any idea about the game, so who is going to decide on a total stranger being given the reins. Think about the past appointments Coley was appointed by Eric (who else on here would have done that) and what followed was a successful but sometimes bumpy ride. Then we start what is an accy trait Paul Cook ex player easy appointment. Liam another that didn't tax anyone's imagination. From behind the 8 ball we appointed JB this as not worked. So we now go back to our comfort blanket and ask Coley. Good, Bad or indifferent we could and have done worse.

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Perhaps a better idea would be to ask the players, P.S. has worked wi em fer awhile now n should not be discounted imho.

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Sorry Cashy but having been in and around the game for more years than I care to mention, that is not a good idea. As an old manager once said to me players are ships that pass in the night. Players play, Coaches coach, Manager's Manage. This decision can't be based on who is popular.

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Well perhaps "Honesty" should be a factor.

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Totally agree, the honest thing for the club and the fans would be to sift through the applications, hold interviews and select the best person. Not difficult but my earlier post tells you why I don't think it will happen.

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I agree, i dont think it will happen either.But i fear the person chosen wont fit that criteria.:eek:

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You have to ask yourself why Peter Marsden...who has always backed Beattie to the hilt....decided to offer the "jump before you're pushed" option to Beattie on the eve of a big game on the back of a win.

From the rumours I have heard Mr Beattie may not be as clean cut as his image suggests.

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I have also heard rumours of that nature, at this point thats all they are, the stuff known about yer favourite son Alvin is a bit stronger than rumour.

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Is there any truth in the rumour...Craney,Dunbavin and Craig Lindfield were seen coming out of Accrington Station,and there has been a rush of planning applications from all the big bookies for shops on Whalley Road. 2-0 my bet.

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The only thing I know is that it needs to be a man that understands what a crazy club this is and how tight the budget is etc etc .......

Is Coley the right man..... for me no.

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for me yes

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Unfortunately I don't think the Directors agree with us,it wouldn't surprise me if they don't even hold interviews ,but just give him the job in the next couple of days.

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For me yes as well.
To say coley hasn't got understanding of tight budget etc would be slightly disrespectful considering he worked here for 12 and a half years.
I think coley is the right man for the job. Would chelsea fans say mourinho was a step backwards or rochdale about keith hill or bournemouth about eddie howe?
He done very well at southport to keep them up and has done average with sligo. Rochdale shouldnt tarnish his otherwise brilliant career in management. If under coley we have another few years as when he was last year it would great for everyone.
I just dont get why people all of sudden hate him, its as if they loved seeing the club struggle in the last couple of years and always wanted this. However we are all entitled to our own opinion but for me coley is 100% the right man in my mind.

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If he's so brilliant why has no football league club offered him a post since he made a right mess at Rochdale..Gary Jones couldn't wait to get away from Rochdale after a fantastic long stint there and over 1000 fans disappeared...if that happens at Stanley he and Jimmy will be watching on their own.

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Have to say, if there is a return for JC to Stanley, there will not be many tears shed in Sligo. He had a difficult job taking over after our most successful period ever, but already many want him out as the football has deteriorated to a huge extent - back to long balls and poor discipline. I cannot see him being here next season, even if he doesn't get the Stanley job.

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I can buy that easily mate, but Davo wont.

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Was wondering what the Sligo fans were feeling about all the speculation - & was hoping they'd be campaigning to persuade them to stay, seems that was a long shot :rolleyes:

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Yeh got more chance of being struck by lightening.

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For me "NO" i fear for this good set of players if Paul Stevenson isn't given a chance to shine with may be David dunn coming it to take on the reins next wk with paul returning to under manager:)

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Beattie was building a good team in my opinion with great spirit and Paul Stevo is carrying it on,the whole squad are buzzing and they're trying to play exciting football ,they just need a bit more time to develop.......but alas it's about to be all undone by a manager who never tried to improve the pitch whilst at Stanley and once slumped into a chair in Mr Whalleys office 30 mins or so before kickoff and when asked what the pitch was like said he didn't know .....God help Stanley for what we are about to receive !!!

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If thats to be the case,?? then theres too many of the owd clique still around in positions of power imho.:eek: it was too much to hope, the owd guard was no more.

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To many Directors without a pot to p*ss in !!!

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I disagree.
The club has not moved forwards of the pitch.
We are still tin pot.
We need a manager who can work with the limited resources and get the best value per £ out of the squad.

Coleman has proven time and time again he can do that, he is the right man for the club.

Not only has he worked near miracles with the playing budget at his disposal in the past, but he is still hungry for more success and will firmly beleive he can beat all the odds again and get stanley up another division.

Coleman is the perfect choice.

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but compared to the competition we were still small plucky accy.

btw, even if coley had sacks of cash, money does not guarantee success. There are lots of examples.

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Just for a new point of view - you know, instead of the childish bating taking over approximately 90% of posts on this forum these days - could it be that Coleman and Bell are a perfect fit for Stanley; which was exactly their foil at other clubs?

A well respected person in the game put it to me in our play-off season that Coleman could do wonders with our club, but would most likely fail at any other. Our uniqueness, warts and all, was mirrored in him, hence the success. I laughed him off at the time as I saw great things down the line for both John and Jimmy, but am well prepared to now accept that standpoint.

In a related irk, I hope that the board take the input they need when making the decision. Unlike the non-league days, we desperately lack in-the-know football people in our top positions such as Phil Terry and Eric Whalley.

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In there lies your answer let,s appoint somebody other than JC.

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one of the things that I like about Coley is that he is a figurehead, someone who 'becomes' the club - and we have been lacking in that department for some time now. He IS a personification of the club and is tinpot and brash and a little bit in yer face with few manners. That is us down to a tee.

Point 2 would be that we cannot let the club become a side event to all and sundrys' lofty ambitions of bettering themselves. "I'll come for a year then bog off to the next pay day". We WILL be back in the conference if we cant find some stability.

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People cannot surely believe he makes a good figurehead,his loud foul mouth was the main reason for parting with Southport,who wanted to become a family orientated club.
Point 2 is that bettering themselves ? Or BETTING on themselves?

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So what yer saying, is whatever he may have done,thats fine??? Well certain stuff i cannot accept simple as.

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Agree that we need stability & surely the best way to achieve that is to let Paul Stephenson carry on

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No it was not.

Please go on port chat and find out how mythical the Southport chairman s comments where.

People have no idea of what went on at Southport and the traditional childish reaction of the Southport chairman when he doesn't get his own way.

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His win percentage ratio wasn't that good DAV....off the top of my head about 24%

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What hes done or not done is irrelevant, its what he is.

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It'll be like letting a fox loose in the hen house!

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I forgot to mention the guy offered out one of our fellow Dale fan's during away match at Torquay United in Aug 2012, I really hope you all end up with Flickers from Chorley or someone, It'd be a bad move bringing him back like others have said on here a step backwards

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Wish the club would keep us in the picture , after all without fans there would be no club.

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Latest word here is that its all over bar the official announcement, so best of luck with that. It leaves us looking for another new manager but at least our season is nearly over.

And good luck against Oxford tonight - things never look too bad if you're winning.

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Was that not the idea of a fans Director?:confused::confused:

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Im a lifelong Sligo fan and to be honest I am glad to see the back of JC & JB if they are on the way. I think alot of rovers fans would feel that way . Although they did give us a win in europe , our league form has been poor .Our playing style has gone backwards and very direct. He plays a big centre half up front and hopes for the best , makes poor substitutions and odd team selections . In their defence they did take over mid season in a league they don't know , with limited budget and an injury crisis.
Hope it works out for ye.

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We support Accrington Stanley, not a player, manager or board member. We've been through some ridiculous ****e over the years but we have always continued to support the TEAM as a whole; there are thousands of facets that go in to making that Team called Accrington Stanley and we are all part of it irrespective of where we are in the world; rich or poor. The only thing we have in common is the club. It doesn't matter if it's Coleman or Dunn, all that matters is 3 points tonight and every week after. We don't have a choice in who the manager is, same as we don't have a choice but to back the Team all the way.

I note that little has changed on here.

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Not happy its all going backwards again, Ive seen us play proper footy on deck stuff post C&B and thats what i go to watch, I'm thankful I've got a very busy uni year ahead no time for 90 mins of grr cos I'm fed up with it. I can't see Nicky Hunt putting up with the scouse hairdryer treatment.

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The club only deal with fact, which is when anything becomes official.

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Oh how strange, i thought our board dealt in bullshine.:rolleyes:

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I've been following Stanley for about 9 years now (since the start of the conference promotion season) and I've never been impressed with JC's style of play nor his touchline attitude so if he was appointed I would be disappointed. Yes, he did work wonders with a miniscule budget and get us into the football league. Yes, he did bring some gems to the club but the question is, what would the fans rather have? A manager who berates an official at every opportunity and plays hoof ball which is the wrong style for the some of the players he unearths and then wonders why the team don't get results. Or, would we prefer a manager who makes it clear that keeping on the deck is key taking into account the height of the team and doesn't blame an official at every opportunity? (although, at times I'll admit, we get some shocking officials) My money would be on JC coming back but I feel that giving an opportunity to someone else instead of bowing down to nostalgia would be the right way forward. However, time will tell and whatever happens I just hope that spirit of the squad is not affected.

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More than happy for people to disagree with the Coleman appointment for whatever personal reason but I've had enough of this nonsense about his Stanley teams playing hoofball. We played the best on the deck game in the league in our play off season, scoring bucket loads the year previous with Grant and Symes. Both on a pitch that was more in line with the imagery of a Seamus Heaney poem than a Football League surface.

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well said Shakey

lots of claims around that it's a done deal - however ...is there something to be read into this quote from Stephenson after tonights match?

"It is disappointing as I have lost James Gray for selection for three games ..."

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If you're vaguely interested in a club, you might lose interest if things don't go the way you think you should. But if you support a club, you support the club. You don't (you can't!) switch support on and off depending on what happens or as people come and go. Whoever's manager on Saturday, it's still On Stanley On.

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Gordon Bennett, Chimer, course it's still On Stanley On. I don't think the return of Coleman's a good idea, but it won't stop me supporting 'em. The sudden drop from Football League to Lancs Comb Div 2 in 1962 didn't stop thee or me...a little local difficulty like this certainly won't stop me!

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We did not play aimless hoofball under coleman,
we did play it direct to mullin in the 1st 2 years back in the league, but it was all about survival.
It kept us in the league so it was a neccessary evil.

If some of you so called accrington fans, are now dreaming up that we must only play tiki taka football and never pass it more than 6 yards, then you clearly dont understand how league 2 works.

I have never seen us play more aimless long ball than under your beloved Beattie!
Have you all got short memories of how we played last season?

From the 3rd year in the league, we played some really good stuff under Coleman.
He produced numerous good footballers and always encouraged good passing interchange.

So once again, we have dispelled the myths that he is the only manager in the world who has passion and has a go at officials, he plays hoofball when actually he plays decent football, and that he is a backwards step when infact he will take us forward.

Isnt it amazing what you can do with facts.

Coleman is the right man for the job.

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We'll just heard Radio Lancs trailing the announcement of John And Jimmy's return..... But not yet official.... So the next dozen games will answer all our questions about the style of football........on Stanley on.....:-)

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Stanley's next manager?
 

Also the 'Club' in this instance means the Chairman and he will be negotiating with relevant parties before going public.

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But this tweet from Jimmy Bell gives a clue:
@jimmybell64: Nanana na - nanana na ahh ahh ah Sligo rovers 🎶🎶been a fantastic experience, with lovely Sligo people 😎magnificent place 👍superb footy club

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Grant were a liability so we shipped him off to our friends at the seaside and Symes wasn't fit for the football required to play at League 2 level or level above that. The only actual decent player's to mature from the Coleman era were Donnelly and of course Cavanagh.

Surprised Peter Cavanagh is favorite for the Accrington Stanley Job bet he know's your fans and Club better than Coleman or Bell ever would, But good luck to whoever you appoint hope you stay in the Football League that's all what matters.

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Bobby Grant was never a liability, why do you think he was a liability?