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New stand plans submitted ? Accrington Stanley FC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds4L...ature=youtu.be

Exciting Times!

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Great news - hopefully the Clayton End can be returned to its former glory (minus the seats) - quite sure the atmosphere has suffered since they went in.

Plans look really good - Andy Holt certainly looks like a man with a plan.

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Great SketchUp model. But is that Cashy, standing naked, that it finishes with?:eek:

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Looks great, though i think the loss of jase is main reason for sufference?

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No more watching the games for free for people on the jam butty estate behind the cowsheds then? :) Looks good, just hope we can fill it & it doesn't turn into a white elephant

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According to the video they created, it comes with people already in it.

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Doubt very much if that will be the case. club seems on a much sounder footing than back in 62 to me.

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It does look good all round, future proofed for corporate clients. I hope this includes the possibility of increasing the capacity from 5000 as it is now. I know we don't have over crowding, but if a big game came along say big cup run it would be good to be able to accommodate more fans. But other wise it looks very promising.

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The new build won't increase capacity, just better facilities, presuming catering facilities etc!

Better experience for away fans which could be the difference to them coming back the season after or not!

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I did read that there was no increase in capacity, I thought they would have built a little more into the ground.
It is all down to Andy Holt, the man has a plan and he can deliver. Well done Andy Holt. My comments about capacity are just an observation. It looks good for the future.

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Yeah, I read that it won't increase the capacity - was just surprised cos I wouldn't have thought the cowsheds hold that amount of people but maybe they're deceiving? Either that we're planning on reducing the capacity in one of the other areas of the ground to include better facilities? Guess it'll all come out in the wash :)

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Maybe counting the standing areas either side of the seats as well as the actual seats?

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Great news will make the area more pleasing on the eye and this is only the first phase.

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I'd like to think i put the idea into Andy Holt's head!!:D
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...nts-67753.html(post 7)

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I saw him last home game has he been back long ? Nice to see him again glad he's come back.

That stand looks great we can only hope it happens.

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He's defo been on the last 2 games, saw him in the Crown after Notts County.

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That's two bits of good news in one thread - makes a nice change :)

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At the moment the away end hold 1500 standing and 300 seats + 300 if required that's the other half of the whinney hill stand. so new stand will hold 1500 all seated so that means 900 standing spaces are been lost with the new stand being open at each end:( would it not be better to either terrace both sides and increase the capacity, remember average away following for L1 is round the 1500 mark.

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But we arnt in league one?

According to Dave Burgess, they have no date when work will start but hoping for middle of May!

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Why, MAB? Or do you think the average home crowd would be in excess of 3,500 if the miracle of promotion occurred? Right now the ground needs better facilities not more standing room and money will always be tight such that something has to give.

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Let's fill the stadium we have now first, Last thing we want or need is building a stadium way to big for our size and ending up like Darlington did!

Much better for atmosphere!

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Correct!! So why the need for an extra 900 seats when our average is around the 1500 mk.unless your thinking L1.

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:confused: you want it now you don't! :rolleyes:

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To me I would like to see a stand like the Clayton end go up on the Whitney hill side but just seats and a roof that's the same hight with TV gantry in the middle and a roof over the away end with what ever you like behind.! Not some think that's totally different like Whats on offer. But hat my opinion.

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Its all about opinion, me i.m happy wi whats proposed.:)

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From the look of the video it looks like we will have to employ a 'Gardener' too!:rolleyes:
Seriously though it looks really superb!
The video makes the other three sides and their concourses look good too.
I do hope that Andy is going to address these areas soon as they really need to be tidied, tarmaced etc....Oh, and the toilets need fixing!
Great stuff Andy!:mosher:
ON STANLEY ON

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This new stand is only phase 1 has with any new development things will look strange to people without the full picture of any other changes I think the coppice end will be next and if left has a standing area could well become the home end and maybe the Clayton end could be fully seated I think when finished not just the ground but surrounding areas will be unrecognizable.

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this is the best news I,ve heard for a while. really excited about the idea. any comparison to darlo,s 20,000 plus white elephant is totally off the mark. why can,t we stop moaning when there,s something positive on the horizon. I suppose if we get promoted there,ll be people moaning because we wont be playing Stevenage next year.

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Moaning cos we're not playing Stevenage!! - that'll never happen - not in my lifetime :eek:

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As someone else said, if it ever becomes necessary :( to increase home capacity, the Clayton End could revert to all standing. There aren't many visiting teams in League 1 or 2 who are likely to bring enough to fill a 1000 terrace and 750 seats (Rovers or Bolton maybe next year? :D), but we might just have to make some games all-ticket for visitors (as Mansfield already do for us :confused:).

I too was impressed by the landscaping (but natural cynicism overcame my excitement about that). I haven't seen it mentioned, but I assume the new build will include decent changing rooms?

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As and when a planning application is registered with HBC, I for one will be writing in support of it. It's important that as many people do the same as there will inevitably be objections coming from neighbours.

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if thats likely the club should be asking fans for support?

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That's for sure, it will mean that they cannot see the games for free from the bedroom windows etc, It might also mean a few less balls in their gardens and conservatories.

P.S. I was under the impression that the planning application had already been submitted for the new stand.

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Does submitted mean its registered? after all its HBC.:D

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I love the way Mr Holt has dealt with the people in the houses getting a free looksy at the games-he's simply bulldozed the surrounding hills. Genius!

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must have been a big shock to the residents of the new build to wake up one morning after they bought their houses to find a nasty evil football ground near their back gardens. if it bothered them in the first place they should have looked elsewhere. as for their little darlings hearing nasty language that could scar them for life I suggest they travel on a school bus or walk past a playground that would probably make coley blush. a load of(sorry I can,t print it here). signed disgusted of Keighley.

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I've checked Cashmans IP Address, It seems it's him who's complained!!

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Don't, see them moaning when watching for free with the new build they will have this concession taken away sad.

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I'm impressed with the gentleman who's worried about parking issues - he seems to know that we'll have lots more fans coming when we have the brand new stand, maybe he's psychic? At least he's put my mind at rest about us not filling it anyway :rolleyes:

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If you and your Mum can promise to curb your language then all the problems will be solved :)

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I hardly think that would be an issue. In a more serious note, We do need every fan we can get, Making comments about anybodies concerns at the building of the new stand needs to be met with serious dialogue from the club. Do we know for certain anybody has lodged an objection or complained to the club?? If so then I think the club should meet with residents who have issues and discuss it with them. We need every body on board as far as possible.

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I'll have a word with her - she's the real culprit :p

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Are these the same residents who have knowingly bought houses only a goal-kick away from one of the biggest landfill sites for miles around ?

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I don't post very often on here as you will see from my profile, but I feel that I may be in a position to offer some valid input into this discussion.
I live on the "New build" at the back of the ground - admittedly not on Epping Avenue which is right next to the Whinney Hill stand, but within 5 minutes walk of the ground.
I feel that any improvement made to the ground will be exactly that - improvements. I would guess that building a larger Whinney Hill Stand would block some of the noise and bad language from the ground and would certainly look better than the back of the cowsheds as they are at the moment.
I do however feel that the club has missed a trick. The occupants of the "New build" should've been consulted about the improvements (if only out of courtesy) and brought on board with the project. As we all know, lack of transparency breeds ill-feeling towards the club.
The parking issue - well, in some respects, as a season-ticket holder - I hope this is a problem. We need more fans drastically, but I hope some allowance will be made for additional parking. Whalley Road was absolutely chocker on Tuesday night, and quite dangerous considering the poor quality of the road surface.

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I agree the occupants should outa courtesy been spoken too. But as Mr Holt aint increasing the ground capacity, then i fail to see how any complaint can be justified? as you yerself say the stand will actually make things better for residents,so i cant see it being much of a problem?:confused: Meself i reckon its a very shrewd move not increasing by our owner.

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There are far more things in Accrington to be disgusted about.

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Well stop looking in the mirror.:D

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Noise on Tuesday nights is probably drowning out the commentary of the champions League game they're sat watching.

Meanwhile back in the real world, there's a team trying to put this town on the map playing over their back fence.

Another nonsense of a story from the telegraph - can't see the good news in anything. Probably went round knocking on doors until they found someone who was mildly annoyed at not being consulted, stick the word "disgusting" in the headline and hey presto.

The only thing disgusting is the rag it's printed in - I wouldn't wipe my Arsenal on it.

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Well as i have no idea who if anyone has complained, and i doubt very much if the club have any idea how they did, if they did, yet baldy seems to know? I wonder how that could be? still he has little idea how life works,

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I've asked a computer wizz and he says its your IP address!!

But if ya probably to thick to understand that then you best get back to the circus!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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As part of the planning application process any and all interested parties affected by the development should be contacted and given an opportunity to voice their views re the proposed development. Given that previous administrations at Stanley have always said that they planned, when finances and circumstances allowed, to develop the ground it should not have come as too much of a surprise that this is now becoming a distinct possibility.

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Not "should", Icarus, but WILL be consulted by the Planning Department.
I'd expect all residents whose properties directly adjoin the Crown perimeter, and possibly more in the surrounding area, will be contacted directly for their comments once the application is registered.
That's why it'll be important that those who support the proposal also send their comments to HBC.
Checked this morning but there was no record of the application having been registered, but if someone knows different, please let everyone know.
What you'll need to do is go to HBC's Planning web page, search for applications with the ref no, and submit your comment.

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It will be up to the residents to send in their objections, the planning department won't go anywhere :)

Even if HBC turn down the application it's more than likely the government would overrule it. There's not really anything in the plans that changes from whats there now, apart from stopping somebodies free view of a football match

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We may be at cross purposes here, Lancsdave, but, whilst it will be up to neighbours to send comments, the Planning Dept will contact those residents it considers are most likely to be affected by the proposal and explain how and when to make such comments.
Ant objections have to be on valid grounds and, in itself, the loss of a view from private land is not something that planning law takes into account. If you don't want your view to change, buy it.
Having said that, the decisions are made by councillors, who are often more concerned with counting potential votes than the finer points of planning law.
Given the Council's recent expressions of support for the Club I'd hope there would be no political agenda and that the application would be approved a something that brings benefits to the wider community.
Comments in support of a planning application are so rare that, when they are made, local politicians often take note.
I just think it would help to show support in this case.

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Andy Holt has tweeted pictures of the back of the Cow Shed with the new drains in place!

Also tomorrow, is decision day on the new 50 year lease!

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I thought Andy Holt had seen the council and had got the 50yr lease.

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I thought I'd read the lease was sorted too, hope we've got the planning permission for the new stand if work's already started & we're not trying to run before we can walk?

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From the article... "This proposal to grant Accrington Stanley a new 50 year commercial lease, which is subject to Cabinet approval on 23rd March."

The work they have been doing up to now is for the drainage and not the actual stand isn't it?

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Thats the way i understand it baldy.

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The way I understand it is that they are putting in drainage in preparation for the new stand as well as other issues. So assuming the new stand gets the go ahead and the changing rooms move under the stand, plus the toilets and retail outlets, further drains should not need to be put in. Would like to see planning permission granted before the end of the season and the new structure be in place for the start of season 2016/2017. Think I might move my seat to the Whinney Hill stand when completed.

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Move into new houses near a football ground then complain about he language? Must be some sort of **** take.

Since when did you need to consult before any plans are drawn, there is no application from what I can see and at very best it is a pre-app stage I would guess.

The club may have been planning to consult before and in addition to chance they will get to make comments when the application has been submitted.

Football Grounds get re-developed, don't get a new house next to one then complain when the inevitable happens.

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I was listening to Dan on radio lanc's last Wednesday night whie driving over to the match! He said that the clayton end would house the main complex once its been removed and rebuilt after the whinney was rebuilt.:)

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This isn't a knock against what is being done, plans considered etc, BUT ...

As a Stanley fan we rarely get the chance to get excited about anything so I'd like to see some hype around the propsed developments. How about a formal launch of some description where the full plan is laid out in front of us with a categoric wish list etc. On the back of a promotion push its these sort of things that cement season ticket sales; for new and old fans alike, as it demonstrates the genuine gravitas of where the club is going. New stands dont guarantee league success, look at Morecambe, so make hay while the sun shines please. Thank you

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Let's hope, after tonight's Cabinet meeting at Hyndburn Council, there's reason to get just a tad more excited about future plans for The Crown.

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50 year lease has been unanimously passed by all parties according to Andy Holt's twitter account.

Great news

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just made a bad day good cheers si.;) lets hope for an announcement from the club pdq. get it on tv should help?

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Good news, looks like it's all systems go for the development then :) Tv Cashy? - maybe bit ambitious - probably make Radio Lancs news though

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When they made that video they must have assumed you were at home to the Shrimps :jimbo::jimbo:

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You worried there won't be any puddles left for Ellison to try and dive into ? :bleedht:

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Ah, bless ya - love that you've still got a sense of humour in the face of your adversity :p

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Or even the adverts pages in The Telegraph ?.

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If any of the residents are really struggling to accept the proposed developments at the Wham, I'm quite prepared to swap houses with them if it'd help? ;)

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THE Telegraph or the LET? Not had a mention in the local one yet as far as I can see :confused:

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I'm sure the editor at the LET is right now thinking of how he/she can turn it into a bad news story...."Investment shock horror crisis at Stanley"?

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Just looking at Mr Holt's picture on twitter yesterday was quite unbelievable.

The amount of work that has gone on, in terms of ground clearance etc is superb.

Exciting times ahead.

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Yes, someone with the drive (and money) to get things done and turn Stanley into a professionally acting club.

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Planning permission has gone in...

Case File

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...and I've submitted my support for the proposal.

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Let's hope the Planners are prompt and professional - not jobsworths. Only 4 months to the new season.

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does anyone know when the planning application will be looked at by the council.

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The Govt's target is 8 weeks, or 13 weeks for a complicated or 'major' application.
But, in my experience, very few LPA's achieve those targets for anything other than porch extensions.
It also depends on the volume of opposition. As I've said before, it's politicians who make the decision and a storm of protest can often bring out the worst in some politicians, and delay decisions as wrangling takes place.
That's why it's important that those who support the proposal don't just sit there. Everyone who wants this to happen should take two minutes to go on the Council's web site (use the link in Baldy's post above) and support it.

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Also done.

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Boxes ticked :)

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Done.

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Done

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Me too.

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So have I

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Done

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Me also

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Done it, Maccawazzagod also put the link on Facebook.

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:) sorted :)

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application signed. over and out.

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Done