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'If you want to check yourself, search for Application No. 11/16/0132 on Hyndburn's planning web page.'

Thanks for that: after looking I must agree its a lot more in keeping with scale of the rest of the ground than I initially thought. If home fans start using 3 sides there will be a dilution of the crowd/atmosphere but I guess you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...th-cb04363.jpg Bournemouth's ground see anything familiar??http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...46404095-n.jpg and The Wham Stadium. Cowshed would look nicer if it was like that :)

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Most businesses who want to attract more customers, retain staff etc tend to have half decent premises. Generally with room for growth. Don't see why Stanley should be any different.

It's hard to see how Mr Holt can make Stanley into more of a prospect for growing the fan base, for attracting more Away fans, future players (and managers when Coley goes) with the cowshed and coppice as they are. Whilst they have a certain loveable charm, they still verge on being embarrassing.

(Not that there's any guarantee that a better ground will lead to a brighter future).

I'm happy with the way things are but have no grumble if someone wants to make improvements.

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. If home fans start using 3 sides there will be a dilution of the crowd/atmosphere but I guess you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.[/QUOTE]

if the cow shed replacement is for home fans then away ones will have to be allocated part of the main stand for seating. don,t think coley would enjoy carlisle fans in his ear all game.

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A new all-seater stand on the Whinney Hill side could be split into 4 or perhaps even 6 sections, with 1 or 2 at the Coppice end allocated to visiting fans, depending on expected attendance. Away fans who wanted the retro experience of the open uncovered terrace behind the goal should also still have the option of the Coppice terrace, which should also be splittable (Stanley section near the Main stand) should excessive demand from home fans :rolleyes: make it necessary.

Away turnstiles and catering in the Whinney Hill / Coppice corner (catering in the first block of the new stand).

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I think it would be a mistake to downgrade the stand to save money

Be much better to make rentable office space to let out to fund the difference in quality of stand.Maybe Andy has some staff he could relocate there and pay rent or maybe he knows of another company wanting office space to rent. I always thought a row of industrial units up against the fence in the car park at the Coppice end would bring in a tidy income with minimal effect on the operations at the ground.

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Aye, but the landlord would most likely want its cut first.

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I am fully in favour of Andy Holt's plan for the building of a 'New Stand' on the Whinney Hill side of the ground. I have just had another look at the 'video' on the 'Fishy Site' which was posted last year.
Before any further development is likely to be undertaken though I think that Andy and the club should complete the purchase of the ground from the council. I believe that they are working on this now.

After which from my understanding, these would be the salient points;

a) A 'New Stand' will make our club 'visibly' more professional and will bring the ground closer to Football League standards.
b) It will make hardly any difference to the Capacity which will remain just over 5,000.
c) The stand will feature much more suitable and respectful accommodation for those fans requiring wheelchair access. I think that this is very important. This would be easy to access from the new Clayton End car park.
d) The stand would not be 'MASSIVE' at all as it would only be about 10 to 12 rows deep but it should give fans a good spectator experience with the seats built on a steeper slope up to the back.
e) If the stand was to be used for both Home and Away fans then we should satisfy the League requirements for the total required number of seats.
f) The stand will house '21st Century' toilets and catering outlets, like in the Clayton End which are super!
g) As has been said by earlier posters the allocation to Away fans can be on a flexible basis depending on the size of the visiting clubs 'following'.
h) It would be another grand step in Andy Holt's super plan to bring the whole ground up to standard.
j) Andy could then plan to complete the ground by developing the Coppice End with a roof, better toilet and catering facilities and changing rooms and medical rooms for the players.

Finally, IMHO. Regarding the 'static' number of Stanley followers. I appreciate that further ground developments cannot guarantee any increase in numbers from the Accy public. However, without any ground improvements the number of Stanley fans is very unlikely to go up at all! I feel that we need to play to a half empty stadium some of the time in order to be able to have a full stadium when we get a good cup draw against clubs from higher divisions and for when we play Blackburn rovers next season!:rolleyes:;)
Think how many we could have got on to the ground for FA Cup matches like we have had in the past against Newcastle, Fulham, Burnley etc.
Andy has really done well for us so far. Exemplified in the ground improvement done so far and in the business of getting players signed up on two year contracts. Just look at the income from the sales this summer of Pearson, McCarten and Beckles. In previous years these players probably would NOT have signed up for another one year contract and all three would have left the club for NOTHING!:eek: EXCELLENT BUSINESS indeed!
Let's put our trust in Andy to run the business side of the club and to make us a more professional outfit and trust in our two Legends John and Jimmy to continue their miracles on the pitch!:theband:

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS WITH THE STANLEY:mosher::jimbo:
AND WITH ANDY, JOHN AND JIMMY:wave8::signbeer:

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Great post, Choirboy.

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You think Rovers will stay up in League One? :)

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Regardless of any romanticism towards the cow shed, the fact remains a new stand is desperately required to move the ground and wider club forward if we want to remain a progressive football league club.

If you stand still in this league, at some point you end up going backwards.

I would encourage Andy and co to maximise the potential to use the stand on non match days and would also encourage them to maximise the capacity of the stand as it will be a good opportunity to profit from big away followings. It will be considerably more expensive to increase capacity once the stand is built if the club on the pitch develop into a regular league 1 team. Better to maximise the allowable capacity now even if it's only a few hundred more.

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Wrong thread

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Two possibilities;

Preferred; Rovers stay up in League One and we get promoted!:mosher:

Rovers get relegated to League Two and we miss promotion once again in the Play Offs! Aw shucks!:knife:

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Planning issues with HBC sorted. New cow shed being built at end of season according to the chairman on social media.

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Still waiting on the nod from Football Foundation with respect to the 50/50 match funding. He got his fingers burnt with the Clayron End so dont think he'll lay a brick until they email confirmation

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[QUOTE=DAV007;1200605]Regardless of any romanticism towards the cow shed, the fact remains a new stand is desperately required to move the ground and wider club forward if we want to remain a progressive football league club.

our ground could still be a reason why we do not get the amount of fans the club deserves. its 2018 not 1948.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1210973]There’s some rubbish spouted on here but this takes the biscuit

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[QUOTE=Willie Miller;1210981]so you actually think the wham and all its facilities especially for away fans are what are really needed in this day and age. do not like saying it but our facilities are one of the worst in the league.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1211105]Don't know how you can say this, why only today I watched them deliver a trailer full of portaloos to the away end for Monday.

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[QUOTE=ferret man;1211130]portaloos, that proves my point.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1211178]
True - the hygiene at the crown has been shocking, especially openly admitting there is no water in the toilets at the time they are most used, and taking ten years to rectify it.

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Andy Holt's latest revised plans for whinney Hill stand seen on Twitter.
Says he hopes to get it started this summer.
Looks like it will be full length of the pitch and six rows deep.
Should match quite nicely with current Main Stand opposite and with the Clayton End. Just a roof needs for the Coppice End and some infrastructure in there too......

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZPZG-7XkAAJnsu.jpg

Just right IMHO for us at Accy!:alright: