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What positions need improvement and will we bring anyone in who will hopefully help us climb up the league.

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To be honest andy i think we got the players, its just the formation that needs attention. thats my view anyway.

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Brad Halliday and Tarique Fosu. Failing that, another full back and pacey winger combo :)

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Mr.Donacien will do for one.

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A big midfielder and a big strong striker. A good supply chain. We have nearly all the players we need we just need to get the system right. personally, I would move Beccles into central midfield. we have the players like Cashy says and we all have questioned the tactics and team selection. Like making a cake we have all the ingredients but we need the Baker to put it all together in the right way.

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Bucko and get Billy fit !!
Coley knows the loan market,so I predict a couple of unknowns like Fosu could come on board

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Goalkeeper a must please

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Without a doubt, a keeper please on loan from a higher league club.........Worth at least 20 points in the second half of the season.

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Let's wait and see

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i,d give chapman a run of games and if it doesn,t work out i agree with you.

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just dreaming
Daniel Lucas Rowe of AFC Fylde
27 years old
Appearances 21 Goals 32

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He'll more than likely be earning far more at Fylde than he would with us

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AccyMad (I did say just dreaming) and there in lies the problem that will always face clubs like ours

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Fairly sure I remember reading that he turned Coley down in favour of Fylde

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A goal scorer is a must

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i think its more important to get rid of anyone who the manager doesnt rate/get along with.

we dont need passengers in a relegation battle.

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we,ve got one in billy. he just needs some help with some big lad who takes some of the weight off him. i wont hold my breath though.

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We will always have a passenger so thats not gonna happen.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Wouldnt bother unless they are better than what we've got.
Can we really find a dynamic, attacking midfielder? Nice if we could.
A more commanding keeper would help.

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One thing's for sure, we won't be buying our way out of trouble, thank God!
Other teams have tried it and ended up in administration.
JC is no dope, he knows where our deficiencies lie & will be scouring the market for freebies & loans to help boost the squad.
The Plymouth performance proved we're 90% there, we just need a killer punch.
The fact we live within our meagre budget & remain in the football league is already a minor miracle.
If we're still playing in league two at the end of the season, we will have had a successful season.
Merry Christmas fellow reds.

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?????? ;):cool::p:mosher::do-one:

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Sorry for the light show old friend !...but once again your cryptic allusions have already made my Boxing Day !.

Have a good day...Hope the Reds really Box ( having already stuffed them !) Grimsby Town.

KTF.

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....Passengers? ....Light shows?.....
Some 'FISHY' stuff going around today!:jimbo::rofl38:

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James Gray released by Southport

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Attacking fullbacks.

A No 8/10 with pace.

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Angus Gunn would be a good TLT signing.

I think we need a bigger squad and have suffered Emergency Loan cessation this season. All the big crowd/budget/squad teams are at the top, when they have had mixed fortunes recently.

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What about the proven experienced players who can't get a game or even make the squad, This is bad management. you have to give these players a fair go on say a rotation system. The current system is not working. If the Manager does not rate players then why are they here in the first place? It does seem that players are not being picked on ability or merit. This has to stop. Some people have said bring Bucko back, When he was fit he was a class above but was injured a lot through bravery, Would he come back? I doubt it. Crooks won't come back either. we need to look around and I believe Coley is a master of finding gems. Yet he does not seem to manage them well.

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Chris !...

Whether or not it appears that players are not being given the opportunity to prove their worth to the squad...Whether or not there appears to be a lack of fairness employed by our Manager when choosing his team for any particular game.....We as mere onlookers at the scene set before us must face one truth, this being that AS Manager JC has the power within his grasp to pick his team for the next game and you, I, and any other contributor to our forum, apart from stating our opinions or getting something off our chests, can for all our puffing and blowing do absolutely nothing to affect or alter this status quo !.

So we live in hope that maybe next time his team selection, and his use of substitutes will coincide with what we think should be the case, and that the success for which we all fervently wish will come to the Crown in 2017 !.:alright::alright:

KTF.

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Yonmon I agree

But

Coleman has to take responsibility for the likes of Eagles, Taylor Fletcher, Hery - he signed all 3, all 3 had previous for having strong personalitys, all 3 if not being selected are a waste of wages and a missed opportunity as those same wages not being invested on other players.

It's also a waste of those players talents, hopefully they can all move on in Jan.

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DAV,

I appreciate that my post seems to be a short exercise in fence-sitting, but I didn't go so far as to name individual players in it because quite simply I am not at all sure of the details regarding either their contractual situations or states of physical fitness, or indeed attitude towards playing for the team , which would allow me to make a considered judgement regarding the Manager's dealings with them.
So I return to my original point, that as far as I can see it is how JC manages the affairs relating to the three players and indeed the rest of the playing contingent that, come weekend which will determine the squad for the next game, in spite of what you, Chris, I, or any other fan would see differently !.
Seems like I'm burying my head in the sand, perhaps someone will come along to help me see some pathway through this murky and convoluted situation...Or maybe drinking too much of the nectar which flows from Artemisia this festive season has made me too Absinthe-minded to see things in a true light ?. Who can say ?.

Happy day after Boxing Day !.

KTF !.

And PS !.. does Absinthe really make the heart grow fonder ?..... I wonder ?.

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Yonmon, I fully accept your points that no matter what, we are just people with an opinion. I agree However the manager must be getting feedback from this forum as well as others. The feedback I would like to think is more positive than negative. I have held back like you as there are reasons or contractual arrangements that we are not privy to which may make us view the situation in a different light. Whatever your view I do believe we have the right as fans to express that view and have it challenged. Ultimately we all want success for the club and team. I agree to name individual players can be less than helpful although most people will know who we are talking about. For me our strikers are not up to the job, That is a starting point but others will think differently. Coleman has to make the choice as it is his neck on the line. This season for whatever reason we have not been able to recreate last seasons performances. We are lacking in most departments in reality. Again we all have our own opinions and have the right to express them. If we have not turned it round by the end of January I think we have to ask serious questions of the management team.

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We are saying the same thing Chris !.. BUT ,although positive or negative, if we were to approach JC and ask him to say, hand on heart, that his decisions were influenced in any way by the assortment of opinions and ideas which we enjoy bandying about on our forum, then we might be on the receiving end of a most disappointing, and dare I say, edifying answer delivered in his own inimitable fashion !.
He is without doubt his own man, whether he is a good manager and decision-maker Ior
not,well one only needs to examine the plethora of posts on this topic which have appeared on our Forum over the years to realise that as yet no decision has been arrived at !.
The picking and nitpicking will continue, I'll keep on turning up I suppose,FA19, DAV, Cashy, Revived Red, Choirboy, and dear AccyMad,and of course yourself, will continue to provide me with those choice moments of unlimited joy which make my daily visit to Accyweb a must !.

Let's hope that our present gloomy thoughts are unfounded, and brighter times are just around the corner !

KTF.

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The Don should hopefully be back in the first team very shortly...Prefer him to Vyner!

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He is a good player Baldy but it won't be enough to turn things round on it's own.

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Might be if we stick him upfront :)

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If two forwards aren't signed in January - one a big target man the other a fox in the box then the club is in deep ****
The service from out wide exists although the speed at which the ball gets out wide can be an issue.

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Has osullivan gone back to Blackburn now?

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His loan expires on January 7th will he sign till end of season who knows I believe a striker is Coleman's target we all agree with that I think as I do but still think we need a creative fast thinking forward midfielder who can move the ball quickly and accurately if the players mentioned in this thread are,nt getting a game let them go we desperately need points from the next 2 games before Coleman rolls the dice in the transfer window and hopefully we get on a confidence building run any new faces will then hopefully gel quickly and get us away from the abyiss.

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if his loans up on 7th jan then no, unless he's injured, but really who know's

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Vyner loan expires 2 Jan ?

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But really what player is going to want to sign for a club fighting for relegation, yes there's the FA cup incentive but seriously

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There will be plenty of players...Their parent club might prefer them to go to a club fighting relegation to see if the player has the attributes that are needed in a dog fight!

Andy Holt has said there will be funds available and Coley won't spend if it isn't right for the club!

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Loads of young players who aint getting a game at bigger clubs would jump at the chance.

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If they're at bigger clubs they're getting more cash most kids nowadays wouldn't move to a club fighting relegation for peanuts

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We have some good young academy players available who have not kicked a ball in anger yet. not even as a sub, Why not? Vyner I have watched and is a player who needs good players around him. I have seen him tackle and keep a ball and no one around to allow a pass out. poor communication. It ends up a hit and hope ball when the lad is struggling for support. He is an intelligent player who can read the game well but like Pierro and Jonno finds himself stranded and surrounded very quickly. The opposition have sussed out that he needs marking closely yet we leave him to struggle on his own too often, I have mentioned previously about Beccles moving to centre midfield, I am not sure he is a striker as such but a good supply link. The Don is a good supply link but again I am not sure he is an out and out striker. Billy Kee has not been right for some time, Terry gornell is off form. GTF has not played a role as such up front. yet we all know he can be the poacher we need. Shay is struggling with fitness and supply. so there is a lot to put right. We have a lot of players who could do the job. The final decision is up to Coley. I am praying he can work some magic in the transfer window.

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Are yeh not aware of the fact,many small clubs only contribute a part of those bigger salaries, or they dont take em,:rolleyes:

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Still we need to start been realistic, the club may accept the bid but it's whether the players want to play in a relegation battle, a relegation on there cv could ruin their future

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Speak to a few loanees, see for yourself,if yeh think thats likely to be a factor.

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IMHO, that's exactly the kind of player Stanley do NOT need right now, or at any time.
I'm not sure just how many "generation snowflake" players are actually out there; there may be plenty in the Premier Academies but let them stay in the warm changing rooms showing off their latest tattoo.
If we do need any more players (we seem to have enough who've barely had a kick), we certainly want ones with a bit of grit in them.

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Well said, couldn't agree more!
As for the comment about a relegation on their cv ruining their career if we did sign one of these 'snowflake players', it ain't gonna happen - Stanley's staying up, KTF :)

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Changing rooms have to be heated anyway. Stanley has had its fair share of tattooed premier league academy drop downs and Nicky Hunts, some of the former have been good and helped us out.

But as Cashman says, the parent club is the one that pays the wages still not Stanley. Stanley will agree what they pay the parent club, and sometimes it can be nothing.

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coley and jimmy will go and watch every available game they can. will know what they need but it,s about who is available and who wants to come either on loan or permanent. do we go for young lads or experianced players is the answer. we are still a young side and need a good older leader who,s seen it all.

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Wasn't GTF only signed till January aswell

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Wasn't his a "non-contract" deal (is that the same as no contract?).

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was Eagles on the same type of contract ?

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they keep their same wages, but often the agreement is the parent club picks up 50-80% of the bill.

its a win-win for both clubs as the parent club get to include a clause the player will be involved in the majority if not all games, in return stanley get some quality on the cheap.

the only risk is for the player, if he doesnt perform or has a bad attitude, it can damage their future.
Likewise, if they do perform, it can be a stepping stone to the first team squad or a loan to a championship club next season.

both clubs will have the right to end the loan early if the player is not performing or is required back at the parent club

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According to Dan Jewell at least 2 players signing January 1st deal's done.

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He was originally but then I think he did sign a contract

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Any thoughts/ideas who the two new signings could be?

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Seems Martial may be after a loan.:D

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Seville might have just beaten us to that..... Good statement from Mr Holt on the club transfer/retaining players strategy on twitter

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Players to leave in January
GTF - out of contract
Johno - end of loan deal
Callum Jones - end of loan deal

Anyone know of any more?

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Vyner- end of loan deal
Eagles - out of contract

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If all five go there will be some decent wages freed up

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Callum Jones went back to West From a while ago

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GTF didn't get a fair go, Johno is not delivering the goods as expected due to mainly poor supply. Vyner is out of place in the team, Eagles was never used properly. He had a lot to offer but was never given a proper run in the team. Callum Jones was never going to be a fixture. I hope the quality of player we need is available and affordable.

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Defender and Striker to sign on 1st Jan!

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Crooks looking for a loan move from Servco according to Scots Press.

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Accrington Stanley - Club's profile | Transfermarkt

List of what our players are apparently worth

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Any in particular?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Thanks for the link - that's the best laugh I've had all holidays. Is that web site run by redundant estate agents by any chance?

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Was a good laugh, the guy who apparently is worth the most by a margin, dont get a game.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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lets sell em all and start again. with that kind of money even bob bradley could get us promoted.

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Loans are subject to the transfer window, you can't send a player back for not performing or re-call one unless the window is open and there is a clause saying you can. They are transferred for half a season or a full season or longer.

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Barnet sign defender Santos from Peterborough for £100,000.

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Two new lads travelled with the team today.

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its nearly 12 you can tell us

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Where have Barnet got that sort of money from, I always thought they were in a similar situation to us - apart from being southerners of course ��

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They've meant to have signed someone else aswell

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Barnet spent another 40k on a striker

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They may just end up in a position like Morecambe.:eek:

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By the sea? Well, sort of... :)

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We aren't where we are through spending £100k on players !

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haven,t they got a player who seems to score all the time, can,t remember his name. could be they,ve sold him and spending the money they,ve received. news can be a bit slow this time of year.

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That would be best case scenario i reckon.

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john akinde 18 goals so far this season.

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So, do we have to wait till tomorrow for the new signings to be revealed?

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Correct me if I,m wrong but would imaging they would have to sign today to be able to play tomorrow.

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It was just that on Radio Lancs I thought Dan said 2 new signings would be announced today & they'd be available to play tomorrow but on SSN they've just said that the window doesn't officially open till 7 o'clock tonight so guess we'll have to wait a bit yet

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Clubs are already signing people so I think the Windows open already

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Well says on fishy,J.C. will have 2 new loan signings available tomoz so no problem i can see.

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No problems Cashy, I'm just being a bit impatient :)

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30mins till announcement of the two new signings

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Jonathon Edwards striker, Harvey Rodgers defender both from hull city

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A centre half eh? We already have two / three very good ones.
Does that mean Pearson being fullback when Vyner leaves?

Not sure a centre forward solves all our problems. I think creating chances from midfield has been more of an issue.

But Coleman knows what he's doing - so all will be revealed in time.

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Good luck to the new lads. They have the pedigree.

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Judging by Edwards' Twitter feed he's very religious. Hopefully he can bring a bit of divine intervention if nowt else.

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Great just what we need 2 kids that are untested at league level

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Obviously being optimistic wasn't on some folks' New Year's Resolutions.
I'm happy to wait and see them with their boots on before judging.
Welcome to Stanley, lads, just give your all and you'll be OK.