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According to thier fans trust we've refused them permission to have collection buckets around the ground

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If thats correct, its a poor do, did we not have em at other grounds when we were in the sh1t?

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Apparently spoke to the CEO who refused them

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Disgraceful IMHO

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Tried to explain we are in similar position & need to financially support @ASFCofficial -we are making losses & need to get that right first

The CEO's response, were in a similar position apparently, so do we have a winding up order that were not getting told about

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A difficult one for me. Yes we have been and probably still are in financial dire straits but we have perpetually been under funded through low gates but I have always believed that ultimately we have been run by people that generally cared for the club albeit blinkered at times and incompetently a hell of a lot of the time. Orient I believe are a different entity run by a crook who doesn't give a flying toss about the club but I do feel for their fans because we all know fans are the life blood of any football club.Still see no problem in a bucket collection though causes no harm and shows unity as the footy family, let's face it we've been there!

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Poor do. How not to make friends and influence people.
With a response like that, I wouldn't be surprised if Stanley's new club house bar takes less money from away fans than it might otherwise have done.
But, presumably, only the police or Council could stop Orient fans collecting beyond the confines of the football ground?

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Our club would rather have money spent in the ground than helping out other teams who are in a position we ourselves have been in, looks like they'll be taking buckets into the crown pre match

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Good on 'em I'd throw a couple of quid in if I was there but sadly stuck in Notts and can't make it. The reality of the plight of football clubs has to be taken very seriously and our taking of it is rather saddening bearing in mind our history. Personally rather have a club than a big screen!

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I definitely remember a bucket collection at Gigg Lane and loads of other clubs' fans rallied round too apart from that.

If it's true that the Club refused then not only is it a disgrace but I hope we are never in a similar position again.

Perhaps the club can confirm the reasoning behind this if it is true?

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Because of Dave burgess refusing the buckets the Orient fans now plan on not spending a penny once inside the ground which will lose us even more money

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This fellow should "NEVER" have been allowed anywhere near Stanley, IMHO.:(

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Rather look after the club and prawn sandwich brigade than the fans

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Too right, we was alllowed to do buckets in other grounds! Regardless of the management around orient, it's the fans that suffer! What harm is it with them with buckets, Stanley fans would still spend in the ground! Poor show once again from off field management!!!

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Just been reading the Orient fans forum, if what they're saying is true I can't believe we've refused them permission to have a bucket collection - I know DB wasn't around when we were in a similar position but you think he'd have done his homework on how many clubs helped us out in a similar way & be only too glad to help out. What goes around comes around & all that . . . . .
At the end of the day it's up to each individual person if they want to contribute & we shouldn't be subjected to a blanket ban imposed by DB or anyone else

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Overreaction creeping in here, in my opinion.
The Stanley decision has some sense to it - we are not a rich club. however I do tend to agree, based on this discussion, that we should accommodate their collections in some way.

People running organisations have to make decisions all the time, they don't always get them right at first. Generally in situations like this sense prevails, compromise is reached etc etc. give it time to see what happens.

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People like that Tory Burgess i have wiped better off the bottom of my shoe.

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Decision has been reversed they are now allowed to collect, guess mr holt caught wind of it and bollocked burgess

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Being a rich or poor club has hee haw to do with it. For those who don't remember, this was what it was like in our hour of need http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ion-49215.html

That is what real football is about not people like Burgess. Thank god he wasn't running the SoS campaign back then!

It's not as if they are asking for the money from the club is it?

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Just read Independent Orient forum, Burgess has just rang and reversed the decision, now the Orient Lads can collect. hope the slimeball apologized.

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You're right, we are not a rich club but I don't see what that has to do with anything?
Orient aren't asking the club to contribute to their cause, just permission to ask our fans to help out a little if they want to & that decision should be each person's - it should not be the club deciding for us!
Give it time you say? There isn't much time for the club to do a u-turn with the game being tomorrow night - I really hope they change their mind but even if they don't I wish the Orient fans the best of luck & if I see any of them with even a hint of a bucket I'll be putting my little bit in whether DB likes it or not

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Dan Jewell donating his match fee to Orient

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Dan for CEO :)

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FANtastic gesture - nothing less than expected from one who knows..... :)

:) :) :)

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Dont make excuses for that piece of crap LordD. If that clown has no idea of what we went through, then he shouldn't be anywhere near Stanley as far as i'm concerned.

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From DB twitter he's changed his mind and is getting in contact with the bucket collectors quite few people must of messaged him

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we know mate someone in the gods has hit him i reckon?

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DB getting more buckets for them, hmm somebody's walking about with tail between there legs

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Glad about the change of heart. Treat others as you would wish to be treated. I was going to make a special trip to the Crown to donate to the collection.

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How much of the SOS campaign money went to pay the tax bill do you think then?

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Glad to see common sense has prevailed, but this should never have been an issue in the first place. We are the LAST club who should be refusing something like this, firstly, because of the way other fans rallied to our cause in 2009 and, secondly, because of the heartbreak we went through in 1962.

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Which has what to do with Burgess refusing? might have known you would try it on.:rolleyes:

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If we didn't need it why did we collect it and where is it now?

The state of the club then relied on a miracle not a bucket collection and luckily we got one.

Happy for you to elaborate on your statement!

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That's not really the point though Rob is it? We all know there were question marks about what money went where but in the end we came through it, obviously with the help of certain people & not entirely through the efforts of our fundraising campaign but this is about helping another club in a desperate situation in whatever small way we can & for most of us putting a few coins in a bucket is a way we can show our support - it's about trying to do our bit if we choose to

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There you go. As predicted.

Anyone not made a bad decision before? As long as you have the good sense to listen to others and not be a stubborn arse about things then all seems pretty good to me.

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So has he listened to others or been Told by the Gods? you seem to know.:rolleyes:

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No, sorry - that just doesn't cut it, he should never have put our club in that position in the first place - to even try & make up for some of the damage he's done he should be volunteering to shake a bucket for them himself

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He should be fined a weeks wage and made to put it in the bucket

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He should have done this, he should have done that... well actually what has happened is that Stanley has now been shown to have very caring fans and a management that listens to them. Plus, Orient have more publicity for their campaign as a result and more likelihood of a better collection tomorrow.

Maybe this can be filed under "storm in a tea cup"?

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And onto the job in hand.... unchanged team apart from Clark for Clare?
Orient will be desperate for points, but they will be up against the wrong team at the wrong time. 3-1 to us!

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Glad that decision has been reversed. However it came about, it's the right thing to do.

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We may be strapped for cash in this neck of the woods, but the fans of Leyton Orient will find the people of Accrington to be not only sympathetic to their plight but also the most generous.
We don't kick a man when he's down & I for one will be happy to dig deep to support our brothers in their desperation to save their club from the abyss.
'There but for the grace of God' etc.
Having said that, my generosity of spirit will end at 7.45pm on Tuesday night.

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Well said I'll be chucking a fiver in

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Is the young lad Clare not fit? If not throw Clark back in otherwise I'd like to keep it the same team that started at SJP

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What's the latest on this Portuguese lad from tadcaster?

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Got home,started reading this thread and was appalled at the clubs stance. However, as it evolved, the decision was reversed and common sense has won out. Good luck with the bucket collection and your footballing future Orient, but not no luck on the field please.

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Still not got clearance as far as we know, probably cos its not premiership.:rolleyes:

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Don't see why we need clearance for him, last club he played at was in england

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Although this has all worked out ok in the end, thank goodness & I don't want to drag it out further than it has been but the point is that there shouldn't have been any question in the first place that the collection could go ahead & yes, someone up above listened to the fans & got it sorted but I worry that the original decision to deny Orient this just shows that some of our new regime just don't get it, they don't get what Stanley or the footballing community is all about. Just my opinion & I'll shut up about it now.
Good luck to Orient with their collection tonight & on-going situation but obviously not gonna wish them luck ON the pitch, at least not tonight ;)

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Great post Di,sums things up perfectly. yer far more diplomatic than me, but were both singing from the same Hymn Sheet.;)

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suppose health and safety was to blame at the outset. wrong colour buckets. buckets could be used as weapons of mass destruction and orient fans refusing to wear high vis jackets in their quest for survival. next thing the council will get involved as they haven,t a licence to collect within 50 yards of council owned land.

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thinking about this some more, and the thought processes that might have been involved.... if I was the recently appointed head of a charity that had organised a 5K race and someone from another charity wanted to come and collect I would no doubt have an inclination to say no.

If someone pointed out to me that my charity had benefited from others in the past I would no doubt change my mind.

I would hope that me not grasping the context initially wouldn't instantly disqualify me (in some people's eyes) from running the charity, nor would my political views (providing they don't interfere) or background - and that I'd get some slack and support from within my charity?

Obviously this is conditional on generally doing a good job.

Maybe I'm being too forgiving, or being overly analytical, but that's how I see it.

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Come on STANLEY.:mosher:
It's an important 'SIX Pointer' tonight.:mosher:
A win and three points will help us to pull away from the relegation zone.:mosher:
Let's hope for a good turnout from the Stanley Faithful and that they are all in good voice.:mosher:
ON STANLEY ON:mosher:
WITH JIMMY AND JOHN:mosher:

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The Don is ill and Clare injured.
Therefore the team picks itself tonight.

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Team

ASFC: Rodak, Rodgers, Beckles, Hughes, Pearson, Clark, Conneely, Brown, McConville, McCartan, Kee

ASFC subs: Gornell, Boco, Husin, Hewitt, Shaw, Chapman, Edwards

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Kee header from a corner 1-0 sounds like a good game end to end

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It's men v boys.

What a great performance...so far.

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Must say I'm starting too like golden boy abit

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2-0 Matty p from a Sean free kick

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Get this post framed!! . .
Or moved to Impossible headlines' :D

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Starting too, I'm sure I'll be back to original feeling by 5pm Saturday

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Crowd 1306. 198 from Leyton

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3-0 Sean mc

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McConville 3-0, 7 games now undefeated

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4-0 McConville from half way line

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4-0 him again

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Cough, cough - you were saying???? :D

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It's only Orient total fluke

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5-0 Matty p

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5-0

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5-0 Pearson, looking like the Pearson and McConville show

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Brilliant stuff!! Can't believe I missed it :( can't be too sad with that scoreline though - well played lads

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From the sound of things on Sky sports, they are call the chosen one MOM and from what I've seen and heard, I can believe it. WTG Accy.

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2 belting goals from Sean tonight, but the pass to play Matt in for the fifth was sublime. Twists, turns, flicks and a thumping tackle first half - fully deserved MOM for Sean.

Hats off for Matty P, 8 goals from open play for a full back?

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I like the latest form table!
League Two Full Form Guide Football - Sports Mole

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Got to say that was the best individual performance by a player in the lower leagues I've seen since watching John Sheridan dismantle teams single handed.

His first half tackle appeared, in hindsight, to be a statement of intent for the mesmerising stuff that followed.

Admittedly we were playing a very poor team left groggy by our best performance of the season. Every player had a blinder but more importantly the way they were at Orient from the start, the movement and passing and running at their defence.

Just a joy to watch.

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For me the best 90 min display of the season first half coulda been 3/4 up, super sean put across some great corners, second half kept it up and got exactly what we deserved 2 great strikes from Mac and deserved MOM we even clapped the announcement. well played stanley the tables looking much better now.:)Must add Rodak had little to do tonight, but never let his guard drop, made a couple of vital stops has come on in leaps and bounds.

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Sean's half way line goal has gone down as an own goal as it hit crossbar and hit the keeper before crossing line

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Good point re the Keeper, Cashy.

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Well we fully satisfied all the above requirements tonight!
What a stunning performance from the whole STANLEY TEAM!:mosher:
To their credit Orient tried their best to play good football and although they had players booked they were not dirty at all. They were just beaten to virtually every ball by our quick, slick beautiful football tonight!:mosher:
The goals scored were simply SUBLIME.:mosher:
A clean sheet was the bonus as well and our keeper did his job when needed.:mosher:
Orient found it very difficult to cope with our super 'Brazilian' style play.:mosher:
The luck was not with us earlier in the middle of the season but it seems to be levelling out now and you can see the confidence oozing out of the players which was capped by Sean Mac's wonderful second goal which followed a stunning goal just a minute earlier!:mosher:
ON STANLEY ON:mosher:
ONWARD AND UPWARD:mosher::jimbo::theband::s_gupjump:wave8::signbeer ::drink:

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Whatever, it was still great vision and a great strike

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Yeah, Sky sports came out with that twaddle - definitely Sean's goal

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I thought Orient also were not as bad as some were saying, we were brilliant tonight and made em look far worse than they were imho.

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And the goals.....

Accrington 5-0 Leyton Orient | Video | Watch TV Show | Sky Sports

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Quite simply the most sublime team performance I've witnessed this season.
It was a night when everything went right for Stanley & everything went wrong for Orient.
They were far from the worst team I've seen at the Wham this season and despite the scoreline, they never gave up trying, although we were in a different class tonight.
Strangely, any euphoria I feel about such a total victory is tinged with real sympathy for the 200 odd Orient faithful who made the long journey north on a Tuesday night, only to see their team humiliated.
When you're rock bottom of the EFL & facing financial oblivion, it takes real dedication to show such loyalty. They deserve nothing but our respect.
Theirs is a club with a longer history than ours & I wish them well in their battle to stay afloat.
As for us, could it be that which we thought impossible, may actually be......... POSSIBLE!

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we played well tonight, using the flanks well and cleverly we didnt send our full backs forward to often which helped nullify the threat from orient down the wings.

As good as we played, they were a very poor team. There best player was their left winger 22 Semedo although their number 6 Parkes put a shift in, giving 100%.
They had nothing in central midfield and it kept them on the back foot as they rarely retained possession and their midfield provided no support to the forward line. 28 Koroma had a good chance for them in the 2nd half but he showed himself to be completely one footed and as he spent time to get the ball onto his right foot, the chance was blocked.


McConville MOM but Clark also deserves a mention as he never stopped and showed good ball control.
Good move from Coleman to bring on Husin in the 2nd half, he looked decent.

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one issue = there are no bins around the club shop/offices area of the main stand before the game - can the club please look at providing one?

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excellent game, but just one gripe, we seemed to relax too much in a 20 min. spell after our second goal and did nothing. if they,d had scored then it could really have been a different game.

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'excellent game, but just one gripe, we seemed to relax too much in a 20 min. spell after our second goal and did nothing. if they,d had scored then it could really have been a different game.'

I thought this too. We picked up after Coley mad his subs. I thought Edwards should have been on 10 mins sooner.

Disagree with Coley assessment of game. Thought we were better in first half than second. Switched off a bit in third quarter and could easily have let a better/more experienced team back into the game.

Some cracking goals,skills and a big sigh of relief as we are now effectively safe.

Bit ominous when BBC described Matty P as highly rated. Is it time now to get a few of this squad signed up?

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Monkey Hanger and inspector - I agree too. I started to feel a bit nervous for a while.

Had a look through the Orient forum and I do feel very sorry for them. Seems their team is just a bunch of kids out of their depth that can't defend set pieces. Someone even posted at half time "we will concede another from a set piece within the next 10 mins. We always do".

The second Sean goal must have been a massive kick in the nuts though.

Some idiot called "ASFC Nick" on their forum winding them up and being a classless arse on our behalf. There's a time and place for everything and it's not now.

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thats a good point as far as I can remember come the summer we will only have McCartan Chapman Shaw Brown & Gornell left under contract

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I thought this too. We picked up after Coley mad his subs. I thought Edwards should have been on 10 mins sooner.

so did i. scored the equaliser against doncaster then never gets a look in. even terry gornell got longer a couple of games ago and did nothing. would love to see edwards get more game time from now to the end of the season as at least he looks lively.

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I agree as we know which league we are in next season.... Matty has another year left with us though does he not? We turned down 250k from posh in the January window I hear.

Here is what I would do in coleys shoes;

Parish - release
Pearson - tie down as long as poss
Hughes - getting too show for me (borderline)
Davies - release
Beckles - keep
Clark - release if contract up
Brown - keep
Gornell - keep if coley can get him back to speed
Shay - keep
Sean - keep
Rodak - get back on loan if poss
Boco - release asap
Clare - send back to weds
Husin - need to see more of him looked ok last night
Lacey - release
Hewitt - release
Shaw - release not good enough by far
Chapman - keep as #2
Wall - release
Webb - release
Edwards - send back to hull
Sykes - release
Connelly - keep
Kee - keep
Donacien - release
Rodgers - I'd do whatever possible to keep but he will be in higher league next year

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Who is this moron?
We should be magnanimous in victory, not rubbing salt in an open wound.
Spent a enjoyable hour in the company of an Orient fan in the Crown after the game.
He's also one of our biggest fans & attends most of the southern fixtures actually supporting us!
These are loyal fans who are just trying to save their club, after being royally shafted by an absentee owner who's disappeared back to Italy.
We've always been regarded as a fan friendly club. Idiots like this can spoil all the goodwill we derive from our generous contributions to their fighting fund.

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is cashman's real name nick?

just wondering

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Wow Mr Rocket
9 to keep in the whole squad - and you include Gornell............................
You've put Sykes on the release list. There were a few clubs in for him in January and the offers were turned down. Higher league clubs as well. One to hang on to for me.
Why Donacien and Clark on your release list ? Discuss.

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What is your source on Sykes? I heard nothing about clubs coming in for him.
Re: Donacien for me he just charges up and down and gets caught out then blames others, whilst clarky works hard I think we can get better in the summer. It's a buyers market and there will be lots of better free players in the summer I'm sure coley will be looking already

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Isn't this verbal ejaculation about next year's squad just a little premature; what will we have to talk about in June and July?

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Re Sykes
Only seen once (against Crewe) but played very well. I would suggest he's one to keep hold off.