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....Mr John Coleman

In the past I have fully supported the decisions made by John Coleman in attempts to do what was right for the team, for example sending Lutel James out on loan etc.
HOWEVER
In recent weeks John Coleman has made some extremely brave/stupid decisions which have not produced a good outcome, for example starting Paul Cook against Crawley when younger, fitter players are available for selection, and persisting with his choice of goalkeeper despite a number of mach losing errors, the list goes on.
His remarks in tonights Telegraph with regards to the attitudes of Rory Prendergast and Lee McEvilly were totally out of order; "I will get players who want to play for the club, so it's for Rory to sort himself out and decide what he wants to do. When he is on song he is a good player but there are other things regarding his attitude which need to be sorted out"
No, Mr Coleman, I believe the situation is quite the contrary, it is you who needs to take a good lang look at what is best for the club, and your attitude towards your players and all round game.
I beleive the decision to substitute Rory after 23 minutes was completely unprofessional, and whatever happened in the dugout should have been sorted out after the game, as Mr Coleman's decision proved costly as it ultimately lost us the game.

May I congratulate Suzanne Geldard's account of what happened in the Telegraph, another brilliant report from the sports writer of the year!

So.....Ian Rush is now available!!!

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I would like to go into detail as to why I do not agree with this post in many ways. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that the fans don't know. If you knew, you would understand his descisions.

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Unlike Adam here.. I wont try and make believe I know whats going on because I don't... I suspect Adam doesn't know half as much as he woul make believe.

But one thing I do know... I have squat idea how to run a football club.... and niether do most fans and thats why I will leave it to them that know :)

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Adam, I dont wish to be rude, but if you are aware of anything that would shed a better light on this situation then I,for one, would implore you to expand on your last post.

To the ordinary fans of this football club, Im afraid that the way Rory was treated at last nights game was despicable to say the least, for the amount of time the lad was on the pitch he ran his heart out (again) and I feel sure that a goal WOULD have come had He been allowed to stay on the pitch.

Granted, you cant have players shouting at the manager for any old reason, but WHY oh WHY take off the best winger in this league just to prove a point (thats exactly what it looked like), surely He could have left him on untill half time,given Him a rollicking in the dressing room, and then,if He wasnt performig sub him in the 2nd half?

We lost to a team that are nowhere near us and should have beaten easily,but Mr Colemans decision did appear to lose us the game.

Again adam, if you have better info then please let us know.

Cheers

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Well Said Sir!

It's about responsibibility and accountability! IMHO it's about time that the management trio where held accountable for their actions, inactions and running of team affairs!

If I have upset people, then that's tough, take it out on my Karma, or something!

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First rule of journalism is sincerity, so i'm not about to go dish the dirt. I also felt it was a bad decision to take Rory off because he didn't deserve it. I felt sorry for him, but there are reasons as to why Coley lost patience. Again I will not elaborate

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So will you be doing this often? Coming on the forums telling everyone you know it all but when asked to elaborate you then say your not allowed? hmm


In that case I know what happend and I know whats going on and I know the team for saturday... I also know who is going to win the grand national and how many babies queen cammila will kiss...

But I cant elaborate as its a secret..


Pointless isn't it..

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Simple answer to all on this matter is to attend the fans forum tonight at the club where all management concerned are available to question. Kick off 7.30 at the clubhouse. May be as well to post any questions via the link on the official Accy Stanley web site.
I know a lot of feathers were ruffled last night & concerns are increasing as the season draws close but hell, look at what we have achieved in less than two seasons-dont forget Erics stated plan to Coley was Div 2 in 3 seasons. Aren't we on the brink now after only 2/3 of the way? It is easy to criticize but there is also praise to be given too. OK ask questions but lets all pull in one direction & be united in helping the team & management get where we & they want them to be-DIV 2 HERE WE COME!
Criticise by all means but make it positive!

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Adam, thanks for answering my post.

I fully understand that as a journalist you have got to be sincere,and let me assure you that I was not asking you to 'dish the dirt',mereley to shed some more light on the situation.

That said, is journalisim not also the job of telling the 'truth' no matter what?................With the exeption of the Tabloids!!!

No matter,perhaps tonights forum will answer any questions remaining....................or am I dreaming again!?

Cheers

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A couple of points journalists might like to note Mr Cottier. There's an `n` in sincerity. Its omission may have been a typing error, However, "their are reasons" is quite unforgivable for any journalist who should know his "there" from his "their".

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Have You Got Nothing Better To Do?

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good points

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slag me off all you want...i couldn't care less you silly little people

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This has got to be the most arrogant post I have ever read on this messageboard. Why don't you come back when you've grown up, Adam?

Stanleybabe

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With hindsight... I was just pointing out that the fans need to understand that their are reasons for certain decisions and they shouldn't jump to conclusions and knee jerk reactions

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eeerm read it again.. it was sarcasm.. I dont really know who will win the grand national..

jeeze your gullible :)

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Arrogant post...............explain please

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My last reply was to a comment Adam made.. which has now been changed... Adam maybe a think before you post then the replies dont look meaningless..

Just count to ten and take a deep breath..

Oh and don't take youself or anyone else too serious... It's only a messageboard :)

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:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Adam, fans are well aware that things go on behind the scenes that they will never know about. What is arrogant is your misguided belief that you are privy to it all and that somehow you are Coley's "bezzy mate". It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. As someone with serious intentions to pursue a career in journalism, perhaps you should stick to reporting on the games and stop trying to give the impression that you are John Coleman's confidant.

Stanleybabe

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Cotty is very popular with everyone on here isnt he ;)

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He's endeared himself to everyone, hasn't he?!!!

Stanleybabe

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Sometimes people are a bit harsh on him though i think

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I'm amazed that a professional sports writer / commentator is prepared to come onto ANY fans site and state openly that he knows things that he cannot divulge. Surely it is better had he NOT made such a statement. As you know I follow the other Pride of Lancashire (the real one) but I would be very annoyed if a BBC Radio commentator came onto our site and made such a claim, especially when they are so close to the club.


Sorry Adam but NOT very professional I feel.

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ye people do get a bit harsh.

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oh my god.

I was just trying to say that fans should jump the gun thats all.

Wasn't trying to be Mr. Big saying that I know things. There is no way I'l ever no everything. I do talk to one member of the management team quite a lot.

At the end of the day, I'm sticking up for the them because I know they only have the good of the club at heart. When they get slagged off it annoys me.

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Cafu01 who used to be fearon1 on this forum who got banned for being a complete so and so and who people next to hated.... I am amazed your commenting .. You of all people should be a little more sympathetic..

I think Adam is annoying.... BUT only on here... He shouldnt hint or tell he knows something then not elaborate.. better to say nowt .....and he is Arrogant and Condescending.

But this a messageboard and like you fearon... a completly differnt person in real life from what I have seen of him.... I would rather the real life version of you both than the cocky little gits you are on here..

I daresay the same can be said about me and many others :)

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Where did this come from? Highly Unfair.

I'm 20 years old and not yet a fully qualified journalist. Just learning the trade. The club has been fantastic with me and I don't like it when certain people get slagged off. I'l admit i'm a faily outspoken person and I like to speak my mind. I can't help it and most people, regardless of what I say on here (it is only a msg board) should be grateful that my work goes a long way to raising the profile of this club.

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Like I say... Arrogant and condescending:)

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i agree Kipax

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and i would also like 2 remind u that the fans make a football club and without them fans there wouldnt b 1,so the fans opinion "i think" is much needed wether they no how 2 run a club or not........:engsmil: come on u reds :engsmil:

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Well Adam i've got to say i've read your posts for a while now and all you do is bum lick and go over the top in your praise of stuff regarding the club, now you pretend you know the inside story but don't elaborate on anything you really are a bit of an arse mate.

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Love the way you finish it off by calling him "mate" hahahahaha

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Who me? Smiffy put me up to it...........................or someone like that :)

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:confused: ok mate

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I consider that having had the forum that the manager & his team have aquitted their side well. As I said earlier criticise by all means but be prepared to be constructive or they will just be empty words. Apart from our cockle pickin friend we know our club is going places because of a commited management. Mr Morcambe beware- you breathe a lot of sea air supporting your team & we all know that by blowing your own trumpet the salt air will eventually corrode it! Nuff said on this me thinks.

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Hey, Mr C: Plenty, amateur!

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I don't know who you are but i'd like you to introduce yourself to me on Saturday.

Perhaps you could call me an arse to my face.

Or will you not have the bottle, like a lot of other Stanley fans


Adam its not very adult or profesional to ask me to tell you your an arse to your face like you did in your PM but if you really want me to do it I will meet you as you requested mate but can we make it Sunday morning before the supporters game as I could do with a warm up before a proper match.

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Don't insult me on a public forum then. Your the one who is immature. Quite frankly you should be thrown off the message board.

If Stanley lose on Saturday, if I were you I wouldn't cross my path that's if I don't find out who you are beforehand.

AND PRIVATE MESSAGES ARE JUST THAT -------PRIVATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Can I have 100 ackers on Shurm please... oh and my house and car and silverware and anything else I can bet :)

Adam.. Have you heard the term "Bitting off more than you can chew" ? :)

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Why should I be thrown off ? Because I said you come across as an arse ? Whats this about Stanley Fans having no bottle ? Your not too bright are you ? Nevermind, anyway i'm now shaking in my boots. ;)

Can I bet as well :) Ding Ding Round 1 oh its over Adams dead hehehehe

Headline 'Shurm wipes **** from shoe' hows that Adam Front page or what :D

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not too bright? hmmm

Front Page? I'm not a newspaper journalist

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Ok on Hospital Radio or what ever you do :rolleyes:

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Now Who Was It That Started This Subject & Wasn't The Word Professional Used? Come On Children Calm Down Its Only A Forum!!!

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not too bright? hmmm

Front Page? I'm not a newspaper journalist


Are you any kind of Journalist? are there different kinds of Journalists? Do Journalist come in different flavors? or as Freud would say.....what is a Journalist? :)

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I'm only fooling around folks Sorry.............. Sorry for calling you an arse Adam but could we still meet I would love to see you, hows tonight ????

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lol Sigmund Freud!!! - what a legend...not

Yes there are different types of journalist don't you know.

Hey Shurm, whoever you are, I read your profile. Are their different types of car salesmen?

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Bread and wine if you like Adam no problem. ;)

To answer you question probably.

I thought you wanted to see me soon and you havn't replied to my invite :(

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jam and butter for the bread?

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For gods sake!! First things first - sincerity and journalists?? Same sentence?? Whenever have you known the press to be sincere?? Like you said Adders, youre learning. And secondly - Shurm??? Your an arse :D :D :D :D

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Good job you live abroad then ;)

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Handbags.......

I'll have you both ;) gggrrrrrrrrr

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Shurmy - come n see me - bring the wifey n kids too :D and Smiffy16, youre n arse too :D :D

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Does that not mean I can come??? hehehehehe.....I'll get you :mad:

:D :D :D

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No problem mate hows tomorrow sound :D and Smiffy you are an arse :) but you can be our nanny hehehehe

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Back to the original topic;there is NOTHING professional about giving your players a public dressing down when it can wait till half time.I am a manager too;in an entirely different field guaranteed,but the ethics are the same...lead by example;I would never reprimand my staff in front of customers;it's humiliating,bad for the image of the store/team and serves no purpose.How can 1 player be castigated for a heated outburst when we hear it EVERY week from the dugout!!!!

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what if one of your staff told you to f***king get lost infront of everyone?

no reprimand...............your having a laugh

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Is this a personal vandetta or are you just a stalker?

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interesting thread this

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Happy Birthday by the way Mouse;happened to notice you are 17 today!!! Well done! It's a miracle you have made it thus far.If you had any idea about management skills, or indeed,life in general ,you would know that getting the best out of people is a skill that is learned.I have spent 18 long years in retail learning how to get the best out of people.You can encourage,pamper,train,flatter,educate,influence and lead by example. It's all individual to the person in question....but I do know that slagging people off in front of an audience NEVER works!

Please come back and spread more of your wisdom when you have actually had some life experience.

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Im pretty sure Anony Mouse is not who it says on the profile ;)
Sorry if im wrong Anony, but i think i know who you are :)

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The tone of this debate seems to bring to ming an old scousers words: " Football isn't a matter of life or death, it's much more important than that!" (W. Shankley)
Unfortunately us managers are just as prone to getting things wrong sometimes as are the workers under us. Just that some managers can take longer to realise this fact! Maybe journalists, trainee or otherwise & fans can make mistakes too but that is the passion we call football (or for you American bretheren - soccer)
Main thing is we can all learn- lets put as much passion behind the team on Saturday & inspire them to do Stevenage-ITS BARBEQUE TIME, TURN UP THE HEAT!

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I deffo know who he is and he aint 17 :)

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Me and kipax the detectives ;)

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Well who ever it is there an arse hehehehe

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I knew I shouldnt have told Shurm.... gobby arse that he is :)

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There is some good songs on radio lancashire at the minute, anyone listening??

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Aren't there rules about posting under 2 identities? Surely we can have this idiot booted of the forum for good!!Obviously a good journalistic nose would have sniffed this one out;but "you pay peanuts;you get monkeys"

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ive been calling everyone arse what do u mean mate ???

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Picked a stupid name Anony Mouse... 24 hrs later everyone knows its him hahahahaha

Can he do anything right?

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shurm... I wanted to play as well :)

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Well I am lost now.... WHO IS IT ?

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who is it Kipax?

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Bit of a dick head by the sound of it.

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Who is it ??

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someone spill the beans :)

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what is your voltage in your house 240

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If you know who it is Adam then tell us.....

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tell you what?

i havn't a clue mate, honest. profile suggests its a female imposter

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I wish someone would tell me who it was, my mind is all over the place :)

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my car is 12v DC

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I'm going to p*** myself if you don't stop.....lol.

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whats a v card ???

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Ok let's play a word game;it's an anagram....ROTTED IMAAC.

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I cant work it out :(















:D

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LOL I'M BACK

Lindsay you dont need to tell us what you use to shave your legs. not good

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C'mon Cafu;that's really tragic ;if the first word began with A and was also the first person on the earth,would that help you at all???

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I cant work it out at all ;)

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Will some body let the cat in please.........

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psml doug..

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Bloody hell Simon, I did that an hour ago, and i'm still sat in it............He's like a sodding mouse isn't she, nibbling away in his own little world.

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I think it's time "certain" people on this site grew up;there has been real damage done by innaccurate,dumb postings by "journalists" on here who obviously neither knew nor cared about the long term consequences of their "reporting". When it get's down to the level of this "reporter" logging on under another name and launching a personal attack I have had enough! The person in question knows who he is and I would welcome a discussion with him after the match on Saturday [if he is man enough to back up his infantile comments]

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Well them V Cards are very interesting arnt they. Bed time for me now cya people

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See ya... :) Lyndsay Just say the word and HE is sorted ;)