Tonight's Events - Page 4

simon · 29-10-2009, 15:51

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Don go now. Rob is stanley in his heart, but would you go with your boss to the almost certain death of the club of your heart ?

Kiwi John · 29-10-2009, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Greeny

I know exactly where you are coming from and although I want to agree with you,I can't help feeling that Rob Heyes is only the messenger .At the end of the day he is an employee and I assume ( maybe wrongly) that he is only delivering the messages that he has been told to deliver. As for D On , I really, really did give him the benefit of the doubt , I thought he had not been given the chances he needed. How gullible I was, I will trust that man no more, never. How he could look folk in the eyes and suggest the sleepless nights be left to him, well I hope he has lots of them . He needs to go NOW.

My thoughts exactly.Rob is an employee of the DONs. I wouldn't be in a hurry to hang him. I'm picking every statement and action he did publicly was to a 'script' prepared by MARCELLE and the DON.

JEFF · 29-10-2009, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Fourth official

and Ilyas has passed his shares over,hasn't he?

Not legally. The transfer has not been registered at Companies House yet so leaglly Ilyas still owns the shares.

Stanleymad · 29-10-2009, 16:13

Just a reminder that inappropiate language, provocation & insults will not be tollerated at accyweb, please refer to forum rules or face post deletion, infractions & possible bans! I understand emotions are very high atm but its not an excuse. Any problems with posts please report them or pm me - thanks. Sensible discussion & debate are perfectly fine but should not resort to bad language nor personal insults, this also be a consideration for people whom are not on the forum, you can be unhappy with the running or management of the club but please think carefully about how you express that point, just a side note in fairness.

Threads merged with trust.

DAV007 · 29-10-2009, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Kiwi John

My thoughts exactly.Rob is an employee of the DONs. I wouldn't be in a hurry to hang him. I'm picking every statement and action he did publicly was to a 'script' prepared by MARCELLE and the DON.

I disagree

Rob Heys has lied to the fans.
Rob Heys has deceived the fans
Rob Heys has a track record if incompetence in his job.

Im sorry, but he is not chief exec material.

It doesn't matter how much you support or love a club, if your not up to the job and you have a poor track record you must stand down.
The role and responsibilities are beyond him.

Being a fan is not an excuse for inability.

smudgie · 29-10-2009, 17:13

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Originally Posted by DAV007

I disagree

Rob Heys has lied to the fans.
Rob Heys has deceived the fans
Rob Heys has a track record if incompetence in his job.

Im sorry, but he is not chief exec material.

It doesn't matter how much you support or love a club, if your not up to the job and you have a poor track record you must stand down.
The role and responsibilities are beyond him.

Being a fan is not an excuse for inability.

Couldent agree more!!!

Doug · 29-10-2009, 17:20

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Originally Posted by DAV007

I disagree

Rob Heys has lied to the fans.
Rob Heys has deceived the fans
Rob Heys has a track record if incompetence in his job.

Im sorry, but he is not chief exec material.

It doesn't matter how much you support or love a club, if your not up to the job and you have a poor track record you must stand down.
The role and responsibilities are beyond him.

Being a fan is not an excuse for inability.

Do you not think that poor performance sometimes comes down to poor leadership? With the right leadership and mentoring even the poorest of individuals can become key assets.

Lets not forget the mantra at Accrington Stanley has for so long been too beg, borrow or steal…many of these lads and lasses have put countless hours in for the club and us for very little pay, again, if Mr. Khan is going to bankroll the club for seasons to come then maybe you can afford people who know it all and perform on demand, until then we have to be sensible and accommodating because without many of these people and I include many supporters, we wouldn’t have a club.

Revived Red · 29-10-2009, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Greeny

I know exactly where you are coming from and although I want to agree with you,I can't help feeling that Rob Heyes is only the messenger.

And as such, colluded in the lies being peddled in his messenger role. If he disagreed with what he was being asked to say, he could/should have refused to say it. Let's not forget that he "empathised" with Peter Marsden when the latter resigned.

Anyway, he is not "only the messenger". He is the Chief Executive and, as such, is one of those who should have been displaying the leadership skills that have been mentioned so often and that have been so evidently lacking in recent weeks.

cashman · 29-10-2009, 18:04

Doug mate "Wake Up n Smell The Coffee"

Revived Red · 29-10-2009, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Doug

Do you not think that poor performance sometimes comes down to poor leadership? With the right leadership and mentoring even the poorest of individuals can become key assets.

I have to disagree totally, Doug. There are very many reasons for poor performance in any walk of life. Sometimes people simply do not have the skills required for a job, and will never have them no matter what the leadership or mentoring. Sometimes people are promoted beyong their level of competence.

Greeny · 29-10-2009, 18:11

Just like Eric Whalley still owns his shares.

Doug · 29-10-2009, 18:18

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Originally Posted by cashman

Doug mate "Wake Up n Smell The Coffee"

I have Cashy; I’m being realistic; Mr Khan and Mr. Marsden aren’t local and certainly won’t be bankrolling the club long term; Mr. Khan makes clear he doesn’t want to own/run the club, so who’s going to be doing it if you clear out the board.

Accrington Stanley as been virtually bankrupt throughout its history and the coming months won’t be any different, a supporters trust will take a couple of seasons to be effective, even then the “then owner” will have to agree to float/sell.

Mr Khan as done a wonderful deed for the club and the supporters but I doubt much will really change in the short term, I think the best we can hope for is Mr. O’Neil agrees to sell sooner rather than later.

Doug · 29-10-2009, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Revived Red

I have to disagree totally, Doug. There are very many reasons for poor performance in any walk of life. Sometimes people simply do not have the skills required for a job, and will never have them no matter what the leadership or mentoring. Sometimes people are promoted beyong their level of competence.

I don't wholly disagree Revived Red.......What I'm trying to get at is when these people have been chased from the crown who’s picking up the mantle?

smudgie · 29-10-2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Doug

I don't wholly disagree Revived Red.......What I'm trying to get at is when these people have been chased from the crown who’s picking up the mantle?

At this moment in time, i dont care if its a monk from outer mongolia, id rather have him run it, than those fools currently at the helm!

They have almost destroyed our club and should hang their heads in shame.

However we are THE CLUB WOULDENT DIE!!!

Hopefully change is in the air.

cashman · 29-10-2009, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Doug

Mr Khan as done a wonderful deed for the club and the supporters but I doubt much will really change in the short term, I think the best we can hope for is Mr. O’Neil agrees to sell sooner rather than later.

not much of a hope mate alledgedly he don't fully own em, so if thats so,how can he sell.