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20-05-2009, 10:01
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
A £1.4 million pension pot and a place on the Lords gravy train. This, for a man who allowed MPs to get away with all sorts of expenses scams and then spent our money trying to cover it up.
At the same time, Mad God is telling us that Parliament will not be a "gentleman's club" anymore.
Oh sure...
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And all this from a man who has spent his life hatting Toffs and despising The Lords, but hey £77,000 a year to fall back on for making history and as you say a seat on the Lords gravy train, trouble is Labour talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
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20-05-2009, 12:44
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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And all this from a man who has spent his life hatting Toffs
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I never knew he was a gents milliner
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20-05-2009, 14:20
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MP's expenses
The expenses disclosures are just the beginning....and we still have a way to go before they are complete. Next in line should be the revealing of full details of those MP's who have placed their WAGS, friends and other relations on the public payroll, be it typist or teaboy. A few of those have previously been named - lets see more.
But we can't stop there. Seventy-five percent of legislation affecting England is drawn up and passed in Brussels, with barely a nod from our MP's. That leaves them with an awful lot of time to pass on other matters, and other than completing dodgy expense claims, most do other things. So we need a full list of all their directorships, consultancies, retainer arrangements and lobbying relationships. We then need to know exactly what they have been paid for such moonlighting and we need to know how they have voted in the house and what they have said in committee in respect of these interests. In fact, every MP should not just be publishing his expenses, but he should be publishing a full list of his activities to include daily time sheets on an hour-by-hour basis and a full statement of all his income from whatever scource. And if they don't like it, they can always get another job
That rogue Martin has finally gone, but you can't help thinking MP's are like a gang of masked bank robbers who when collared come out with the proverbial "Society is to blame excuse" and then finger the look-out man. Pathetic.
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21-05-2009, 12:24
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MP's expenses
Seemingly Italian 'MP's' are just paid 8,000 euros for expenses on top of their salary without any need to justify what they spend it on !
Personally, I think this is a much better system ... sort out your own living accommodation, moats, taxis, staff, etc., sink or swim on this and don't come back for more, 'cause you won't get it. Savings in administration and controversy would be enormous.
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21-05-2009, 16:11
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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I never knew he was a gents milliner
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Just quoting Mancie, Margaret
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21-05-2009, 16:14
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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Seemingly Italian 'MP's' are just paid 8,000 euros for expenses on top of their salary without any need to justify what they spend it on !
Personally, I think this is a much better system ... sort out your own living accommodation, moats, taxis, staff, etc., sink or swim on this and don't come back for more, 'cause you won't get it. Savings in administration and controversy would be enormous.
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That's very heartless kate, how would the poor lambs survive in the Metropolis on such a pittance
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21-05-2009, 17:04
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MP's expenses
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Originally Posted by katex
Seemingly Italian 'MP's' are just paid 8,000 euros for expenses on top of their salary without any need to justify what they spend it on !
Personally, I think this is a much better system ... sort out your own living accommodation, moats, taxis, staff, etc., sink or swim on this and don't come back for more, 'cause you won't get it. Savings in administration and controversy would be enormous.
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Where did you find that kate?
BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Are Europe's MPs paid too much?
The basic salary for senators is 5,235 euros (£4,214) a month, but on top of that they claim daily expenses, which on average amount to an extra 4,000 euros (£3,220) a month.
They receive free flight and train tickets to and from Rome and they are also allowed to claim further expenses for travelling by car.
When you factor in the average phone bill - 340 euros (£270) a month - the real monthly income, say the authors, is nearer to 12000 euros (£9,650) a month. The politicians are expected to pay their researchers out of this monthly income but research shows that on average secretaries and researchers are paid between 500 and 1500 euros a month - a fraction of the money that is claimed.
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21-05-2009, 18:25
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MP's expenses
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That's very heartless kate, how would the poor lambs survive in the Metropolis on such a pittance
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Did omit to say 8,000 euros per month ..
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Where did you find that kate?
BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Are Europe's MPs paid too much?
The basic salary for senators is 5,235 euros (£4,214) a month, but on top of that they claim daily expenses, which on average amount to an extra 4,000 euros (£3,220) a month.
They receive free flight and train tickets to and from Rome and they are also allowed to claim further expenses for travelling by car.
When you factor in the average phone bill - 340 euros (£270) a month - the real monthly income, say the authors, is nearer to 12000 euros (£9,650) a month. The politicians are expected to pay their researchers out of this monthly income but research shows that on average secretaries and researchers are paid between 500 and 1500 euros a month - a fraction of the money that is claimed.
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Was a feature on the Chris Evans show last night Shill ... 'things you have found out for the first time today'. Foxy (the financial presenter), said this is what she had just found out. Will run it again on Iplayer to check was not hearing things..... just found it, that is definitely what she said.
"8,000 on top of their salaries, and they don't even have to justify it"
Last edited by katex; 21-05-2009 at 18:31.
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21-05-2009, 18:36
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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how would the poor lambs survive in the Metropolis on such a pittance
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Perhaps they're all waiting for the publication of Cllr. Peter Britcliffe's guidebook 'Living well off expenses, whilst in in London'.
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21-05-2009, 18:55
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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Perhaps they're all waiting for the publication of Cllr. Peter Britcliffe's guidebook 'Living well off expenses, whilst in in London'.
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I am sure it will go immediately to the top of the best sellers list.
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21-05-2009, 18:59
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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Perhaps they're all waiting for the publication of Cllr. Peter Britcliffe's guidebook 'Living well off expenses, whilst in in London'.
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Ah ... there you are .... have been missing yer pooh-stirring ....
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21-05-2009, 22:20
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MP's expenses
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What do you make of this? £10,000 is being offered for the leaked information on MP's expenses receipts. The Sun and Times have been offered it, but refuse to handle stolen goods. Bloggers have offered £10,000 and are prepared to publish them if they get the information...
As I see it we should get to see them anyway. It's our money and we need transparency to regain trust in politicians.
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I agree Andrew. We need transparency. It's our money and we need to know how it is being spent.
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21-05-2009, 22:42
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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Ah ... there you are .... have been missing yer pooh-stirring ....
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Especially on this issue I've been stirring bigger cess pits of late.
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22-05-2009, 09:39
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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I am sure it will go immediately to the top of the best sellers list.
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Probably as high as G. Joneses guide to must do road repairs
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22-05-2009, 09:41
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Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
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Did omit to say 8,000 euros per month ..
Was a feature on the Chris Evans show last night Shill ... 'things you have found out for the first time today'. Foxy (the financial presenter), said this is what she had just found out. Will run it again on Iplayer to check was not hearing things..... just found it, that is definitely what she said.
"8,000 on top of their salaries, and they don't even have to justify it"
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That per month does make a tad of difference me thinks kate
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