2011 Census

***Mr D***

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This will be popping along in a few years time, I can see its compulsory to be completed, can anyone explain to me as to why this would be compulsory.
 
http://www.nisranew.nisra.gov.uk/census/pdf/FACT7.PDF
The Census is compulsory
Every household must return a form by law. This is because it is
important for people not to be missed out – the Census is designed to be
a complete count of the population. Failure to make a completed return,
or giving false information, is an offence which may attract a fine of up
to £1,000
:eek:

I have never objected to supplying info in the past - now I have serious doubts about how it will be used.
 
This will be popping along in a few years time, I can see its compulsory to be completed, can anyone explain to me as to why this would be compulsory.

At a rough estimate I would say the 2011 Census will be 'popping' along in about 2 years, costs nowt but a bit of biro ink, OR HAVE YOU SOMETHING TO HIDE?
 
http://www.nisranew.nisra.gov.uk/census/pdf/FACT7.PDF
The Census is compulsory
Every household must return a form by law. This is because it is
important for people not to be missed out – the Census is designed to be
a complete count of the population. Failure to make a completed return,
or giving false information, is an offence which may attract a fine of up
to £1,000:eek:

I have never objected to supplying info in the past - now I have serious doubts about how it will be used.

Thats what Im thinking, I would like to see a sample of the form.

So how will they know who is where? I mean I know a few people who are No Fixed Abode, do not vote Ect. How will they fit into the equasion.

IIRC they are not still sure who will be incharge of keeping all this data secure, from what I have looked at one inpreticulare are in the running who look a bit dodgy.

Lockheed Martin (who just so happen to be - The largest provider of IT services, systems integration, and training to the US Government).

So Our info could be stored by them, would that mean it would then come under the patriot act?:confused:
 
At a rough estimate I would say the 2011 Census will be 'popping' along in about 2 years, costs nowt but a bit of biro ink, OR HAVE YOU SOMETHING TO HIDE?

A few in my book meaning two (I think 2011 give that away a bit).

and YES I do have something to hide.
 
A few in my book meaning two (I think 2011 give that away a bit).

and YES I do have something to hide.


A Couple = 2

A few = 3 or more.

Perhaps if you have something to hide, = EMIGRATE lose yourself in a land that doesn't give a damn.
 
A Couple = 2

A few = 3 or more.

Perhaps if you have something to hide, = EMIGRATE lose yourself in a land that doesn't give a damn.

Fair play, but a few rimes with two.:D

Why EMIGRATE? Im already in a land that doesn't give a damn.

Only thing Im hiding is my Privacy. Do/should I not have a right to that.

Hence why I ask the questions.

I have not seen a Census form to see what questions are being asked, can you/anyone give me a example of some questions? afer all its every ten years, and I cant remember filling one in in 2001.
 
Only thing Im hiding is my Privacy. Do/should I not have a right to that.


Do you pay tax and NIC? Do you hold a driving licence? Do you have, or had, a mortgage, bank loan, item of furniture etc. on credit? Do you own or rent a house? Do you have children? If so, your details are already held on file by one department or another.
 
Do you pay tax and NIC? Do you hold a driving licence? Do you have, or had, a mortgage, bank loan, item of furniture etc. on credit? Do you own or rent a house? Do you have children? If so, your details are already held on file by one department or another.
Not to forget have you been detained at Her Majesty's pleasure :D
 
all it took was a quick google .. and you will find the questionnaire....

2011 Census questionnaire content: Office for National Statistics

Thanks for the link, However I dont think anywhere on there is shows the actual questions, just what may be in it.

Do you pay tax and NIC? Do you hold a driving licence? Do you have, or had, a mortgage, bank loan, item of furniture etc. on credit? Do you own or rent a house? Do you have children? If so, your details are already held on file by one department or another.

Yes, Yes, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. Exactly, So why should I HAVE TO fill a form in should I not have a option?
 
Thanks for the link, However I don't think anywhere on there is shows the actual questions, just what may be in it.



Yes, Yes, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. Exactly, So why should I HAVE TO fill a form in should I not have a option?
The idea is Mr D. they want to know just how many people are living in this country, but even so they may just have a slight problem with that because there are quite a few people here who no one actually knows who or where they are:rolleyes:
 
The idea is Mr D. they want to know just how many people are living in this country, but even so they may just have a slight problem with that because there are quite a few people here who no one actually knows who or where they are:rolleyes:

This is my point, If they only want to know how many people live in this country then why ask some of the questions they will ask, Income for exapmle.

So I dont fill the form in I get fined £1.000, Mr Poland down the street, doesnt even get a form and doesnt matter a dam to him but no fine coming his way.

What gets me is WHY IS IT COMPULSORY.
 
This is my point, If they only want to know how many people live in this country then why ask some of the questions they will ask, Income for exapmle.

So I dont fill the form in I get fined £1.000, Mr Poland down the street, doesnt even get a form and doesnt matter a dam to him but no fine coming his way.

What gets me is WHY IS IT COMPULSORY.

I understand that the Income question will not be asked in the 2011 Census, they would get too many pork pie answers if any and that would slow the process down.
Mr Poland down the street will have his collar felt if he does not comply with the law.
The Census in the UK has been on the Statute Book for a very long time and is here to stay.
The TV licensing authority has a record of every house in the UK and so has the UK Stats office which hopefully will be used to good effect at Census time.
You ask why is it compulsory........Jaysay answered you first time round...It is the Law of the land.
 
I understand that the Income question will not be asked in the 2011 Census, they would get too many pork pie answers if any and that would slow the process down.
Mr Poland down the street will have his collar felt if he does not comply with the law.
The Census in the UK has been on the Statute Book for a very long time and is here to stay.
The TV licensing authority has a record of every house in the UK and so has the UK Stats office which hopefully will be used to good effect at Census time.
You ask why is it compulsory........Jaysay answered you first time round...It is the Law of the land.

I do understand that its been around for a very long time, and Im still wondering as to its uses.

Mr Poland getting his collar felt, that would be a first, Mr Poland doesnt exist, or if he does the other 7 occupants dont.

As for Its the Law of the land, I feel this is why it can be challanged, questionned.

Upon reading the 2009 Rehearsal Questionair.

A Question I saw was usual address and SECOND ADDRESS where you might stay more than 30 days a year, I mean why do they need to know this? So If I babysit and my sisters ever friday (52 days a year) I have to tell them
 
If you look on that link i gave you before you will see that the rehearsal questionnaire for 2009 is there which will give you some idea of what the questions will be. Also if you read a couple of pages about the census you will see this:

Parliament will make the final decisions on the content and questions to be asked in the 2011 Census. The Census Order which includes details about the topics and questions to be asked will be laid before Parliament in October, debated and approved towards the end of 2009 and then made by the Privy Council in January 2010 The Census questionnaires form part of the Census Regulations which will be approved by Parliament in Spring 2010.

Anyway why are you so bothered about it now .. its 2 years off not 2 weeks or 2 months off.
 
So as this is done every 10 years I take it Mr D you ain't filled one out before?? If you have then why whinge about it now??
There are no names on these things, just the address of the household. You fill in the names of those who live there at that time from 1 day old to 121 years old - everybody. You lie you're in trouble.
As has already been said above it is the law and you HAVE to fill it in. Like you said, your details are held by various organisations already so what is the problem??
I would also have presumed the second home question would be for 30 consecutive days??
 
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