Macca, you're a star! Superb post which hits the nail on the head in so many different areas. If only others on this forum could take some of your points on board and try to react positively instead of the ongoing negativity which has, I am sure, driven so many posters away. Yes, there are many things wrong, but we won't put them right by turning our backs on the club. Many thanks for this "breath of fresh air"
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How about the club taking some of his points on board...or is that too much to hope for?
How many times have you paid your admision fees this season ? Were you one of the 1056 last Saturday and if not then you could probably help to explain why we only had 1056 by giving us your reason for not being there.
Jeff, Macca made it quite plain last season, that due to family commitments, He would not be 'on' very much this season, therefore He has no obligaion to explain His absence to You or anyone else!!
None the less, does that make His post any less valid, I would say not, infact it is the best post in this thread (IMHO) and has thrown a different light on a lot of the moans .........mine included........karma on its way Macca!!
Just to let you know Jeff, I was one of the missing fans and will continue to stay away for the forseable future as I am totaly dissolutioned with the whole Stanley set up and can see no hope of it changing in the near future, ergo I will save my £26 a game and stay at home..........but I will still support the team as my 'hometown' team.........as long as thats ok with yourself of course!!
OOpppss i will spoil a good post, as macca knows very well......
IDEAS are well & good but without a good support, dedication & direction those IDEAS cannot be put in fruition - that we know cos many a time have tried thro OSC which the new breed of supporters tried in vain to change & get the club to consider - frankly if it doesn't contain £ signs gained then Eric dont want to know we saw that for ourselves with exibition. To add even then - when offered on a plate they fluff that up bigtime as well - shirt launch big media co-incided with exibition & real positive interest & possible return of fans - failed bigtime & was too late.
Think last summer proved that the interest was there from the townsfolk & people whom travelled miles - even airmiles!!! But stanley chairmain let them down as far as the current history is concerned. People wont return if they are constantly let down, irgnored & regarded unimportant to the club once parted with their hard earned cash!! Mud sticks!
Ok for those that pay on the gate more often than not or have a current season ticket - they are the ones whom have that little more gripe, they are the ones contributing this season - they are the ones that are not happy & voicing that - so cold comfort to be told by those that go a few times - awww shutup its supporting accy stanley - DONT We KNOW IT, club want something for their money but so do the fans by least performance IMHO! Which prompts me like a few others have done this season which is sod that for a barrel of laughs season ticket wont be purchased next season & will go when i can or when the club wants their fans, thro effort & perfomances on & off field!
IDEAS are well & good but without a good support, dedication & direction those IDEAS cannot be put in fruition - that we know cos many a time have tried thro OSC which the new breed of supporters tried in vain to change & get the club to consider - frankly if it doesn't contain £ signs gained then Eric dont want to know we saw that for ourselves with exibition. To add even then - when offered on a plate they fluff that up bigtime as well - shirt launch big media co-incided with exibition & real positive interest & possible return of fans - failed bigtime & was too late.
Think last summer proved that the interest was there from the townsfolk & people whom travelled miles - even airmiles!!! But stanley chairmain let them down as far as the current history is concerned. People wont return if they are constantly let down, irgnored & regarded unimportant to the club once parted with their hard earned cash!! Mud sticks!
Ok for those that pay on the gate more often than not or have a current season ticket - they are the ones whom have that little more gripe, they are the ones contributing this season - they are the ones that are not happy & voicing that - so cold comfort to be told by those that go a few times - awww shutup its supporting accy stanley - DONT We KNOW IT, club want something for their money but so do the fans by least performance IMHO! Which prompts me like a few others have done this season which is sod that for a barrel of laughs season ticket wont be purchased next season & will go when i can or when the club wants their fans, thro effort & perfomances on & off field!
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I don't know what's more entertaining, going to watch Stanley or coming on this forum.
Urrmmmm easy coming on this forum
manager of a shop that has to open saturdays for a start
3rd child born hours before the start of the new season which has time and money implications
father in law in hospital having neurosurgery
wife suffering from looking after three kids 24/7
thats four reasons for a start jeff
tonight will be my fourth game of the season - i get there when i can. But knowing this season that I can't support the club as I would like to, I have made more effort with putting money into the club through the club shop than I would normally do. Home and away shirt bought, 15 badges bought (10 of the new 40th anniversary and 5 of the crested one), two scarves (one is the new 40th anniversary that hasn't been 'launched'), a jumper for my dads birthday, a hoodie for christmas, a wallet for my eldest child, last seasons (reduced in price) home and away strip for the two oldest kids). I also subscribe to th Gold bond and Stanley legends and if and when I get chance to grab a few pints during the week I tend to drink at Mo's tavern aka The Crown.
Not counting the alcohol I make that well over two hundred quid spent on merchandise plus the four games at £52. How much was your season ticket Jeff?
I think I am still entitled to have an opinion despite not being a 'regular'
aye u do keep the stanley bar busy macca pmsl
I think you took my post the wrong way. The post was asking for reasons why we only had 1056 on. Macca's reasons could have been the reasons relating to a lot of people who do not watch Stanley, therefore Macca could part answer the question of reasons why some people do not go to Stanley.
As for you staying away, that is up to you. But please don't say that you will still support the team. If you do not go to the games you do not SUPPORT the team you are a fan of the team. Or if you consider yourself supporting the team please explain how you are supporting them if you stay away. The Stanley set up will have less hope of changing if you and others stay away thus depriving the club of income.
As for Macca's suggestions of what should be done. A couple of years ago we had long winded posts from Macca regarding the Supporters Club about what should have been done and what was going to be done now that Macca was in charge. What happened to all that when it was put into practice, how did all his suggestions and ideas change the Supporters Club. Well I am told that there were four people at the last meeting, that's how much it changed it.
Well that's four reasons that could apply to other people who do not come to Stanley. Four answers to the question why we only had 1056 at the game.
I wasn't getting at you for not going to the games just asking for your reasons which could apply to others.
In answer to your question of how much my season ticket cost. When Stanley were in the Unibond League and short of money I paid £799 to be a life member, I am now entitled to a season ticket for life. I hope that my £799 went some way to helping Stanley get back into the league.
I do not attend matches-its abit far away
-but I take exception to your comment suggesting if I don't attend games I am NOT supporting the team.etc.. I have spent around 130 pounds with the club this season.Is that not supporting them ???
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... and ERIC and co; How on earth can you let a bloke of MACCAs ability not take a position on your board ??? .. You really should give it consideration.The mans influence and respect from his peers alone would add greatly to the gate- and thats the bonus as his marketing ability and unbridled enthusiasm would be of immense value to ASFC.
Seems to me that Macca has already said that his priorities are with his family at the moment (and rightly so).
touche Jeff, touche.
what did happen during the 18 months that I was Chairman of the Supporters Club? well we had the largest ever organised away travel (that the club pulled its face at), we organised an open day of great magnitude (that was only pulled weeks before the date due to LCC sticking their noses in on a subject that had been cleared by HBC and Hyndburn Police), as part of the Open Day we had organised the resurrection of the Primary school knockout 7 a-side and had secured sponsors for that event - it was eventually held elsewhere, we broke into our own brand of merchandise (and love it or hate it it roughly broke even on takings and left us with over £2k of stock despite the club not allowing us to sell it through official avenues), we organised The Exhibition that had over 3000 visitors from various corners of the globe (despite the lack of involvement from the club), we represented the club at events that it never been to such as the Mela and Barrowford show, we upgraded membership cards from paper to hard wearing plastic, we secured our own sponsorships for the first time ever and had the membership cards, website and events sponsored by various people. We made marginally more money year on year than in previous years, despite larger outgoings due to things like merchandise, and despite the fact that we did not do a single sponsored event in that time.
My aim when I took over was to increase the profile of the club (ASFC as well as OSC) through various different approaches. This was done with regular radio interviews on 2BR, 107 the Bee, Radio Lancs and Rock FM, articles in 4-4-2 magazine, News of the World, Independant and Guardian newspapers, numerous 'college' type interviews for media studies courses and of course as frequently as possible in the local papers.
The exposure was all well and good and should be maintained as all positive (and it was) publicity is good publicity and helps to dilute any bad publicity (such as the turnign down of Freedom of the Borough and the various tussles with planning over the control room) BUT it doesn't put pound notes in the till and is, cynically, the reason why Mr Whalley doesn't put any emphasis on doing such things. But at the end of the day the club didn't really put any effort into the things we attempted, and this coupled with public apathy, ensured that things never really changed for the better. Before I took over there were numerous people sayin gthe OSC was that that or t'other and only Ossyclogger defending it. Many people said they would come to the meetings if things changed. The meeting where I was voted in saw 18 newcomers attend, looking back it was the largest meeting held for some time. But once that was done some of these people dropped away and many of the people who were attending prior to my appointment stopped going. This might have been because of me or it might have been because they saw the opportunity to get away quick while the going was good. Make no mistake it is a thankless task but one that I worked bloody at trying to do.
MORE PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE OSC FOR IT TO BE THE SUCCESS THAT IT DESERVES TO BE.
If people didn't like my brand of doing things then they can do their own - it's not a problem. I always said that if somebody was willing to do something then it shouldn't be backburned - crack on with it. Sponsored events always brought the money in but meant a lot of effort for few people and the same people being asked by 10 folk for sponsor money! I wasn't willing to do that and tried to give the Supporters Club the means to be self sufficient eg the merchandise range. But if you and a few others thought it a good idea then fine, do it. If you think it's a good idea to do lapdances on the coach to a game then fine, do it. The OSC could and should support 'branches'
As for there being only four members at the last meeting or what is going on with the Supporters Club now then you'll have to ask Harwood Red. For similar reasons to why I haven't been to the games, I also have had no involvement with the OSC since the Exhibition ended.
Hope this answers your questions Jeff. (and sorry for being long winded again!)
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I do not attend matches-its abit far away
Why not read my whole comments I went on to say Or if you consider yourself supporting the team please explain how you are supporting them if you stay away.
As for giving Macca a place on the Board Kiwi John. How much would you expect him to invest in the Club to become a Director ?
sorry but we prefer to chat about it in the pub than sat at the pc
fingers get tired
just stick it back in please lee
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it will end all the problems...honest
