Adoption

Exactly.

If sexual orientation was a learned thing, nurture, rather than nature, there wouldn't be any gays at all.

As every single gay/lesbian child is a result of a heterosexual pairing.

So who learned/influenced them to be homosexual, and not their siblings?

Velma, from Scooby Doo?
Thelma's a lesbian!?......Zoinks!!
 
Groove wonders what Accywebbers think on the issue of gay couples addopting...Although they would be just as competent as heterosexual couples, is it right to have a child brought up by a gay couple?

as long as the child is brought up in a loving environment, cared for, clothed & fed who gives a flying u know what about the sex of the parents, what relevance does it have? It's like saying a boy should only be brought up by a man, and girls brought up by females if there from a single parent family, it doesn't matter, a boy brought up by lesbians will have male influences in his life & vice versa, groove needs to join the 21st century.
 
Well, since I logged of last night this thread has taken off and has been flying at 20,000'.
As fare as I'm concerned it was an emotive subject from the start, especially when it went down the road of whether people choose their sexuality. This is a subject I've always felt strong about, having work with lots of gay people both male and female in the nightclub industry, in fact (I have mentioned this before on here but I'll repeat it for the sake of new contributors to the site) a few years ago when working at a local nightclub together with my then wife, we were having a drink after the club had closed and the wife (who was very naive) said to the barman, who was gay, why is it, when there are all these young girls in here every night wearing low cut blouses and short skirts, that you fancy other men, the reply was succinct and to the point, I'm a victim of circumstance, I have the mind of a woman in a mans body, think that says it all really
 
Well, since I logged of last night this thread has taken off and has been flying at 20,000'.
As fare as I'm concerned it was an emotive subject from the start, especially when it went down the road of whether people choose their sexuality. This is a subject I've always felt strong about, having work with lots of gay people both male and female in the nightclub industry, in fact (I have mentioned this before on here but I'll repeat it for the sake of new contributors to the site) a few years ago when working at a local nightclub together with my then wife, we were having a drink after the club had closed and the wife (who was very naive) said to the barman, who was gay, why is it, when there are all these young girls in here every night wearing low cut blouses and short skirts, that you fancy other men, the reply was succinct and to the point, I'm a victim of circumstance, I have the mind of a woman in a mans body, think that says it all really

Well put, John. As for the Bangles and Black Sabbath, I liked the Bangles but did not care for Black Sabbath. A bit too crash, bang wallop for me!
 
Well, since I logged of last night this thread has taken off and has been flying at 20,000'.
As fare as I'm concerned it was an emotive subject from the start, especially when it went down the road of whether people choose their sexuality. This is a subject I've always felt strong about, having work with lots of gay people both male and female in the nightclub industry, in fact (I have mentioned this before on here but I'll repeat it for the sake of new contributors to the site) a few years ago when working at a local nightclub together with my then wife, we were having a drink after the club had closed and the wife (who was very naive) said to the barman, who was gay, why is it, when there are all these young girls in here every night wearing low cut blouses and short skirts, that you fancy other men, the reply was succinct and to the point, I'm a victim of circumstance, I have the mind of a woman in a mans body, think that says it all really
Yes, nice summary. It did spiral out of control a bit didn't it.
 
At least you kept your cool and did not rise to the personal comments.
Yeah, not really my style. Think they were heat of the moment things this time tomorrow Garinda and me will porobably be best buddies!!....The Bangles jibe did cut deep though!!!
 
Yeah, not really my style. Think they were heat of the moment things this time tomorrow Garinda and me will porobably be best buddies!!....The Bangles jibe did cut deep though!!!

You and Garinda might well be best buddies this time tomorrow, but I've still got plenty of "issues" with you...like your appalling prog rock musical tastes and your football traitorship to your home town, to name but two!

You have been warned! :eek:
 
You and Garinda might well be best buddies this time tomorrow, but I've still got plenty of "issues" with you...like your appalling prog rock musical tastes and your football traitorship to your home town, to name but two!

You have been warned! :eek:
"Traitor" Never! Stanley are my "second" team. As for the music, I can offer no defence....but I have given a couple of your obscure tracks a spin in the past and they were alright....but not really for me.
 
"Traitor" Never! Stanley are my "second" team. As for the music, I can offer no defence....but I have given a couple of your obscure tracks a spin in the past and they were alright....but not really for me.

Alright, well, we'll return to musical matters at a later date, but if Stanley are your second team, I expect to see on the Clayton End sometime soon. You can even search out Alvin and discuss Yes concept albums at halftime. ;)
 
"Traitor" Never! Stanley are my "second" team. As for the music, I can offer no defence....but I have given a couple of your obscure tracks a spin in the past and they were alright....but not really for me.
So you'll be sticking to ABBA, Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet, then steve;):D
 
As opposed to the very personal comments he decided to make about someone, and their family, on a public forum?
Gary, you are like a dog with a bone!!! Can we not let this go? I'm sure people can read my first post and make their own minds up if I was out of order.
 
Gary, you are like a dog with a bone!!! Can we not let this go? I'm sure people can read my first post and make their own minds up if I was out of order.

Blimey, lost your sense of humour?

A little gentle teasing only funny, when it's at someone else's expense?

Still, we won't hold it against you.

It's probably genetic.

:rofl38:
 
Blimey, lost your sense of humour?

A little gentle teasing only funny, when it's at someone else's expense?

Still, we won't hold it against you.

It's probably genetic.

:rofl38:
Really don't think I've "teased" anyone in any of my posts. And as I've said a few times now I'm ready to end these tit-for-tat posts.
 
Really don't think I've "teased" anyone in any of my posts.

What about the person you identified, who you described as 'gay as a lord'?

He might fee he was teased.

Or his family, who you also identified.

Or perhaps any Lords.

Or even any gays.

You can end your contribution to the thread anytime you like.

No one's forcing you to post.

As you're on a certain loser, for your own sake, it's probably wiser to do it sooner, rather than later.

;)
 
I'm sure people can read my first post and make their own minds up if I was out of order.

People read your first post

My concern would be that the child would grow up thinking that being gay is "normal" and are more likely to grow up to become gay themselves. In a similar way to fact that if a child's parents smoke the child is more likely to take up smoking as they see it as the "norm".

...and every subsequent poster disagreed with what you said.

Your second post

Maybe in most cases, but when I was a kid I lived up the top of Fielding Lane and on a farm near us lived a farmer, his wife and thier two sons. One son was your typical strapping farm lad, the other, younger son was as gay as a lord. My mum was friends with the farmers wife and she told her that when the second son was born she really wanted a girl and for the first few years of his life he was basically brought up as a girl even to the point of wearing dresses and playing with girls toys. Could be just a coincidence but I'm not so sure.

...was bang out of order because you chose to identify someone, and their family, and discuss their private business.

Your childish 'gay as a lord' comment, was totally irrelevant to the thread's subject, and could be deemed as being offensive, by some.
 
What about the person you identified, who you described as 'gay as a lord'?

He might fee he was teased.

Or his family, who you also identified.

Or perhaps any Lords.

Or even any gays.

You can end your contribution to the thread anytime you like.

No one's forcing you to post.

As you're on a certain loser, for your own sake, it's probably wiser to do it sooner, rather than later.

;)
I didn't name anyone. Only retold a tale that's 30 odd years old to illustrate a point. Anyone who wants to can look back at the posts and comment and if they think I'm out of order I'll hold my hands up (which I might have already done, I can't even remember now) You seem to thrive on confrontation! I know you don't always have an easy time of it and I have every sympathy but it seems like your taking things out on me a bit. Putting a smiley icon at the end of your posts doesn't make them hurt any less!
 
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