now then..is there a prize on here for tossers that state the obvious?.. such a brilliant conclusion turkish..you'd have to get up pretty early to catch you out eh!
Budget 2009
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But in tough times like these who would want to be in power
And remember, it was Republican (that's Tory to the max) policies, dating back to Ronnie Raygun and his bitch, Maggie, that got us into this mess in the first place. And if Labor is drinking at the Last Chance Saloon, I think I'll join them for a brewskie. Remember, the only good tory is a suppository.
But in tough times like these who would want to be in power
Go shoot your Rare Bits.
Darling makes that pair look like financial geniuses and you have to remember that this shower inherited the best financial outlook of any incoming government in history, but as usual it will be left to the Tories to clear up after this shower of total incompitents, like we always do..so say the die hard fans of Norman Lamont and Geoffrey Howe..
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But for Thatcher this country would have been a Banana republic long ago, the only thing she did was put it of until New Labours 12 years of incompitant bungling, we are now a country with the third biggest debts in the world behind USA and Italy. One thing I have noticed is that not one of our Labour mouth pieces have had a word to say on this issue, mind you they never have any contribution to an thread on their incompetent brothers and sisters in Westminster, they give um a wide birth, but as the old saying goes they all P in the same pot, in good times and bad times
I hear what your saying dave, but this time I'm a hundred per cent sure, mind you the Monster Raving Loony Party could do better that this shower, Wynonie for PMNo matter which party is in opposition they all same the same thing, they can do a better job than the resident government. It's been going on since parliament existed, one day somebody may actually prove it
If an election was called tomorrow, whoever won it would be in the unenviable position of trying to sort out these huge problems.
I agree with Andrew though, you cannot borrow your way out of a recession that was caused in the first place by irresponsible uncontrolled borrowing.
But then what can you expect.......the fiasco over expenses for MP's has done untold damage.......they can live off the fat of the land (our taxes), tell us to be more prudent,
and almost smirk while they see us on our uppers.
Now, if they cannot see that this is immoral, how can we trust them to make judgements that affect all of us?
I agree with Andrew though, you cannot borrow your way out of a recession that was caused in the first place by irresponsible uncontrolled borrowing.
But then what can you expect.......the fiasco over expenses for MP's has done untold damage.......they can live off the fat of the land (our taxes), tell us to be more prudent,
and almost smirk while they see us on our uppers.
Now, if they cannot see that this is immoral, how can we trust them to make judgements that affect all of us?
Think what you have said is true, especially about borrowing, but that as always been the Labour way, knowing full well that if it goes belly up it won't be them picking up the pieces, it happened in 1950, 1979 and even more so now, but this time its a mitigated disaster, we are now, as a country in the biggest doubt for over 300 years, things can only get better was the cry in 1997, ya reght
I'm not denying that we're in a mess right now but would we honestly have been in any different situation if the Conservatives were in. It's a world wide recession so it would have hit us anyway. In one way, it's probably come at the right time for the Conservatives because they'll take over (and I'm not actually in much doubt that they'll win) and they'll be able to blame everything on the previous administration.
The only thing will be if the Conservatives can come up with a way of getting us out of it whilst the rest of the world wallow in it.
The only thing will be if the Conservatives can come up with a way of getting us out of it whilst the rest of the world wallow in it.
I'm not denying that we're in a mess right now but would we honestly have been in any different situation if the Conservatives were in. It's a world wide recession so it would have hit us anyway. In one way, it's probably come at the right time for the Conservatives because they'll take over (and I'm not actually in much doubt that they'll win) and they'll be able to blame everything on the previous administration.
The only thing will be if the Conservatives can come up with a way of getting us out of it whilst the rest of the world wallow in it.
My thoughts exactly Gayle.
To jaysay, Royboy et al... it's all well and good slating the government for borrowing so much money, but I hear not one opposition supporter or politician saying what they would do differently.
But in this case it will be true, we left Labour in a rosy position in 97, after cleaning their last effort up 74/79, we were the worst prepared country in the modern world going into this recession because we had a chancellor who spent the brass and didn't look to the future, oh and by the way there still hasn't been a Labour Lackey on here yet, they've gone missing againI'm not denying that we're in a mess right now but would we honestly have been in any different situation if the Conservatives were in. It's a world wide recession so it would have hit us anyway. In one way, it's probably come at the right time for the Conservatives because they'll take over (and I'm not actually in much doubt that they'll win) and they'll be able to blame everything on the previous administration.
The only thing will be if the Conservatives can come up with a way of getting us out of it whilst the rest of the world wallow in it.
I'm not denying that we're in a mess right now but would we honestly have been in any different situation if the Conservatives were in. It's a world wide recession so it would have hit us anyway. In one way, it's probably come at the right time for the Conservatives because they'll take over (and I'm not actually in much doubt that they'll win) and they'll be able to blame everything on the previous administration.
The only thing will be if the Conservatives can come up with a way of getting us out of it whilst the rest of the world wallow in it.
Don't be too sure Gayle. It's a long time until the next general election. It's also not what we are finding on the door steps.
What good would that do? The arrogance of this Labour Government as it stands would take no notice anyway.
This situation is a bit like a football club that fires the manager because it isn't getting the wins......the next chap in HAS to make sure there are wins.........and I can't really think of a party that has a crew that is up to the job....in effect whoever wins the next election will pick up a 'poison chalice'.......unenviable.
Do you knock on every door or do you Knit one Pearl one?
They never knock on my door Roy
So it's ok for the opposition not to serve their purpose by offering no alternative, all the while slating the government for their decisions?
What a pathetic response.
It might inspire more people to believe them (any party here) if they stopped claiming such ludicrous amounts of money for second homes and such like when they don't need them. It is all good and well saying they aren't breaking any rules but they made the rules theirselves!!!!