Cheltenham Thread
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Spot on about Jimmy Macca, cannot see him being at Stanley on Valantines day!!!!!!
Would love to see 4 4 2 from the start not when we are getting beat. Why not start with an attacking side. Use the wings and run at sides and play the players in their best positions. Jimmy again my mom today, how any defender could have got the accolade beats me a real poor defensive display by all. We have a real toughie on Tuesday so lets hope Coleman gets it right.
Today, we were devoid of drive, passion, leadership, direction, fight and ideas!!! Apart from The Brazilian, we looked below average Sunday League..... Hess, looked like a fish out of water at LB, Smyth just is not up to it I am afraid - he is only a kid, Mr. Consistant is struggling to keep it up at the moment, Macca/Joyce/Parky, just not at the races. I was pleased to see Chris coming on with more than 5 mins to play, but I hate to say, he was not much better than the rest.
I cannot believe how much we have missed Proc and Bateson, Thank goodness that along with Putters, they will be available next game. We have to stop the rot and get some points on the board!!!!!
I cannot believe how much we have missed Proc and Bateson, Thank goodness that along with Putters, they will be available next game. We have to stop the rot and get some points on the board!!!!!
I would question the value of playing a full strength team against Bolton reserves on Wednesday night. Cheltenham looked a yard sharper all over the pitch having had a full week without a match and several Stanley players put in very tired performances.
Too often Stanley players were just "shrugged" off the ball by more determined, stronger and frankly fitter opposition.
Tuesdays match with Chesterfield is a bit too soon for my liking, i just hope they go into the game with a bit of complacency and Stanley can take advantage. I expect to see at least 3 fresh players back in the line up following their enforced rests. What i wouldn't give for a 0-0 draw!!
Too often Stanley players were just "shrugged" off the ball by more determined, stronger and frankly fitter opposition.
Tuesdays match with Chesterfield is a bit too soon for my liking, i just hope they go into the game with a bit of complacency and Stanley can take advantage. I expect to see at least 3 fresh players back in the line up following their enforced rests. What i wouldn't give for a 0-0 draw!!
ive never been convinced wi that argument Larry, players are supposed to be fitter now than ever,according to the experts? they used to play more games back when they weren't! 3 at easter,4 oer xmas, plus more games per season. so how does that work out? fer my money they played the wrong game, larruping the ball upfield to the Cheltenham defense who won virtually every ball, being big lads against garden gnomes, early season was much more balls to feet, which suits our lads imho.
I thought the overall performance was very poor today, it all seemed to stem from a lack of communication at the back. Cisak was very poor in his decision making today which was summed up best when threw the ball out to Chris and it went out for a throw in. I was surprised that Kevin Long didn't start at the back at least not just for his height and I think playing Leam Richardson at full back would've probably helped us with the link up play to the midfield.
Our main strength comes from when we retain possession and pass the ball with patience and accuracy. This was completely missing today, too many times we hoofed the ball up front and never won the balls in midfield. There were a good few kicks done by Cisak that went straight to their goalkeeper and there were very few roaming runs by the full backs or any link up play with the wingers. I thought that Chris Turner put in two very good crosses that were begging to be put away, he did more in 40 minutes than Sean did for 90 minutes. In my eyes I think it is criminal that he hasn't been given a start this season, how can anyone make an impact on a game when he is only given 15 minutes here and there?
I also find it strange that Bavs has been dropped, he has been in the form of his life this season and has done very little wrong. I think we have certainly missed Bateson especially for his roaming runs and his link up play with the midfield. I think it is critical that we get some sort of result at Chesterfield otherwise I fear our promotion bid will well and truly go out of the window.
Our main strength comes from when we retain possession and pass the ball with patience and accuracy. This was completely missing today, too many times we hoofed the ball up front and never won the balls in midfield. There were a good few kicks done by Cisak that went straight to their goalkeeper and there were very few roaming runs by the full backs or any link up play with the wingers. I thought that Chris Turner put in two very good crosses that were begging to be put away, he did more in 40 minutes than Sean did for 90 minutes. In my eyes I think it is criminal that he hasn't been given a start this season, how can anyone make an impact on a game when he is only given 15 minutes here and there?
I also find it strange that Bavs has been dropped, he has been in the form of his life this season and has done very little wrong. I think we have certainly missed Bateson especially for his roaming runs and his link up play with the midfield. I think it is critical that we get some sort of result at Chesterfield otherwise I fear our promotion bid will well and truly go out of the window.
Pretty dismal today. Left before final whistle for the first time in a long while.
First time I've seen Cisak and can't agree with Macca (Cisak never made a save - post 53). He made a fantastic save from free kick in first half when 2-0 down tipping thunderbolt over bar ( you must have gone to the john) . At that stage if we'd gone three down it would have been game over. He also made a couple of decent stops 2nd half. Don't think the keeper was 'awful' Shaker, he's got his kicking and throwing to sort out but let's remember this is only his second full game - give the guy a chance. After all, Bavs has had about two years to come good. Keeper was badly let down by defence today, first two goals Hessey well exposed at LB. Thought Smyth did ok without being spectacular and so was Winnard.
Where has the passing game gone with ball players like Barnett, Ryan and Joyce in midfield ? Why lump it forward to shortasses like Parkinson and McConville against six footers ? Me no follow.
Five stars to Jimmy Ryan for his effort , class and determination ...hope he gets some help from Putterill in next game
First time I've seen Cisak and can't agree with Macca (Cisak never made a save - post 53). He made a fantastic save from free kick in first half when 2-0 down tipping thunderbolt over bar ( you must have gone to the john) . At that stage if we'd gone three down it would have been game over. He also made a couple of decent stops 2nd half. Don't think the keeper was 'awful' Shaker, he's got his kicking and throwing to sort out but let's remember this is only his second full game - give the guy a chance. After all, Bavs has had about two years to come good. Keeper was badly let down by defence today, first two goals Hessey well exposed at LB. Thought Smyth did ok without being spectacular and so was Winnard.
Where has the passing game gone with ball players like Barnett, Ryan and Joyce in midfield ? Why lump it forward to shortasses like Parkinson and McConville against six footers ? Me no follow.
Five stars to Jimmy Ryan for his effort , class and determination ...hope he gets some help from Putterill in next game
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Sorry BDC. Cannot agree about Chris Turner. Those of us who don't see him through tinted glasses were watching closely after he came on and, believe it or not, his first NINE passes went to blue shirts. It was only when he moved out to the right (where he could do less damage, maybe) that he started to release the ball with any accuracy. I really don't think he's the answer.
Maybe you have answered your own question in a way Oldgobbin in that you play people in their natural position?
I agree with BDC. Ok, his first few minutes were abysmal, but in his natural position raiding down the right he poses a real threat. He takes people on, is hard to dispossess and is not afraid to put his foot in, unlike another winger I could mention.
Agree with those comments Cashy, also Hess just did not look comfortable at LB and the first 2 came down that side!!
Jimmy was all over the pitch, so I do not agree with the fitness thing, we are too small - man for man and I cannot believe what I have just heard on the Footy League show, describing Stanley "As a Team that can be physical and direct!!"
The only bright spot is we do have players coming back into the squad and a Cup game looming against the Latics so players will be out to impress to keep hold of their starting berths.
But defend and play like we did yesterday against the Spireites on Tuesday night and it will be a cricket score.
But defend and play like we did yesterday against the Spireites on Tuesday night and it will be a cricket score.
I think we all know Chris is a major threat in his proper postion on the right hand side. He did look a fish out of water on the left which wasnt surprising.
Travelled up for the match yesterday hoping to see the team that has done reasonably well upto now,unfortunately it appeared that the wrong team turned up on the day.Probably only Jimmy Ryan can walk way with any credit after a bad day at the office,maybe it was my imagination but John Coleman just didn't seem to have any enthusiam for the game and spent most of the match leant against the wall.Jimmy Bell did most of the motivational stuff from the technical area,Accy were a lot better before the management team signed new contracts.So whats gone wrong,from a strong start to the season to yesterday when they looked like a team heading into a relegation battle.Can't blame problems in the boardroom because that didn't seem to affect the team at the start of the season,the problems need to be ironed out before things go from bad to worse.Players playing out of position,wrong substitutions etc,i know it's only early season yet but the middle of the season will be upon us before we know it,i hope they can turn things around before it's too late.Judging on yesterdays performance it's going to be a long hard season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!