Clayton End development?

Hey Mr Baldy - on twitter you wrote "People moaning because it's been announced that Cowshed is being demolished but not announced anything replacing it 🙃 #AccyWebMentality"

Surely that doesn't refer to Lemur's innocuous remark does it?
 
Lord Didsbury said:
Hey Mr Baldy - on twitter you wrote "People moaning because it's been announced that Cowshed is being demolished but not announced anything replacing it �� #AccyWebMentality"

Surely that doesn't refer to Lemur's innocuous remark does it?
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Thats a typical remark from yon mon LordD.:rolleyes:thats cos theres accywebMentality @ pillock mentality imho.
 
It will be interesting to see how long it takes to put the new stand in it's place. In defence of the local Council around here over many years. The local Council has been more helpful to the club than most other Councils would have been to their own clubs. It is a small Council and a small club working together for the retention and promotion of the club. The Council have little or no money but do use whatever they have to help. If there was to be a car boot at the club I can't see anybody bothering. The real thing that we need to look at is why there is so much investment in a new stand which would not increase capacity. An illogical step.
 
Chrisr said:
It will be interesting to see how long it takes to put the new stand in it's place. In defence of the local Council around here over many years. The local Council has been more helpful to the club than most other Councils would have been to their own clubs. It is a small Council and a small club working together for the retention and promotion of the club. The Council have little or no money but do use whatever they have to help. If there was to be a car boot at the club I can't see anybody bothering. The real thing that we need to look at is why there is so much investment in a new stand which would not increase capacity. An illogical step.
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Why would we want to increase capacity can't fill it now but Andy is trying to improve the stadium and the match day experience, but some people are,not happy about it and try and find problems.
 
I don't know if a new stand is to be built (and am indifferent as, when I can get to the Crown, prefer to stand on the Clayton End) but there are at least two good reasons to go ahead
1. to provide a seating area that gives a proper view of the pitch. The current stands are poor, too low, with views blocked by constant comings and goings and subs warming up. Didn't you claim in another thread that you couldn't see the West Brom game from your seat, Chrisr?
2. to provide better facilities, especially toilets.

I'd be delighted if Mr.Holt decided to go ahead with a new stand but no doubt on here it still wouldn't satisfy some.
 
Agree with Exile,also it may well increase away support, i have spoke to quite a few away fans oer the years and the main consensus was we have never been to stanley glad we have aint gonna return cos its rough as rats, if its a better place to come word will soon get round imho.An increased away support will certainly help things?
 
Surely this must be a good sign & perhaps indicates the clubs negotiations to buy the ground from the council may be proceeding.
No tenant would agree to invest the sums required for this type of project without first owning the freehold.
The Cowshed has become an embarrassing reminder from our non-league days.
As it also houses the TV camera's, something must be constructed to enable recording to continue.
Can't imagine they'll knock it down & simply rebuild a scaffold tower for the TV crew?
 
Lord Stiffupperlip said:
Surely this must be a good sign & perhaps indicates the clubs negotiations to buy the ground from the council may be proceeding.
No tenant would agree to invest the sums required for this type of project without first owning the freehold.
The Cowshed has become an embarrassing reminder from our non-league days.
As it also houses the TV camera's, something must be constructed to enable recording to continue.
Can't imagine they'll knock it down & simply rebuild a scaffold tower for the TV crew?
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That is not true at all. Get a long enough lease and it is immaterial, as the lease will probably last longer than the stand.

You don't have to look far to find new stadiums built without freehold.
 
Chewbacca said:
That is not true at all. Get a long enough lease and it is immaterial, as the lease will probably last longer than the stand.
You don't have to look far to find new stadiums built without freehold.
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Only a fool would spend thousands (or even millions) as a leaseholder.
Any improved asset value only benefits the owner of the freehold.
 
cashman said:
Agree with Exile,also it may well increase away support, i have spoke to quite a few away fans oer the years and the main consensus was we have never been to stanley glad we have aint gonna return cos its rough as rats, if its a better place to come word will soon get round imho.An increased away support will certainly help things?
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Maybe this is the way to go, I think we all know by now that we are not going to bring in support from Accy or the surrounding area, so if we had better facilities we may get more support from Yeovil
 
ferret man said:
Maybe this is the way to go, I think we all know by now that we are not going to bring in support from Accy or the surrounding area, so if we had better facilities we may get more support from Yeovil
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Well as i.ve said before last year Carlisle took 3k to Blackpool at around this time in the season so that should be the target the Stanley management should be aiming to attract and the target by which their efforts should be judged on.
 
problem for away fans is they have a choice. get wet through standing or sit in the cow shed where if you,re 6ft or more there is no leg room. once bitten etc. even pompey fans didn,t return in the numbers of their first visit.
 
I'm quite fond of the cowshed myself - certainly don't think of it as an 'embarrassing reminder' of our non league days - more of a 'look how far we've come' sort of thing. I know it has to go but the place won't be the same without it, wonder if the club has thought of selling bits of it off after the demolition??
 
How come no one knows what's replacing the cow shed?
Surely it can't be the proposed stand muted last season given our gates?

Have we not got previous on poorly thought through white elephant stand building?
 
Chrisr said:
The real thing that we need to look at is why there is so much investment in a new stand which would not increase capacity. An illogical step.
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Not sure of the detailed plans of the Cow Shed or what's going to be built within it or who it will be used for but let's presume it's something similar to the Main Stand now.

If you was a family would you be more encouraged to sit in a stand like the Main Stand or the Cow Shed?

If you was an away fan on a 500 mile round trip would you rather, Stand on an open terrace and get soaked, Sit in the Cow Shed or Sit in a stand like the Main Stand?

For years we've been crying out for stadium upgrades and now they're actually happening people are moaning...Can't get my head around it!
 
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