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- Thread starter Barrie Yates
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Do I take it right that muslims tend to vote Labour
I'm not sure that there's a trend in either direction, although Springhill is a Labour stronghold within Hyndburn. I would like to think that the majority of British Muslims would be against what happened on Thursday, much the same as the Koran-burning idiots in America were reviled by most Christians.
What has annoyed me is the cover-up, presumably based on that most powerful of all words, 'racism'. The government (of whichever colour) invites future problems by ignoring instances like this and not coming down equally hard on Muslims as well as Christians. What's sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander and at the moment it isn't.
There's no two ways about it, racism still only works one way in Great Britain.
It isn't about 'banning things we dislike', more about dishing out punishment in an even-handed way. If a Christian group organised the same thing with hateful placards outside a mosque on a Muslim holy day there would be media uproar and many arrests. It would be equally wrong yet treated in a far more serious way.
The law should be exercised with equal force on all people within the boundaries of Great Britain, it is the only way to have a truly fair society. Holding back because it might be considered racist will not only breed contempt but also make a mockery of our entire country.
As far as the law's concerned, it's there to protect everyone. There have been prosecutions in Scotland, in which the English have been targets of racial hatred, for example.
The bigger problem seems to be with the establishment in general. The bodies and people who run our political system, police force, media etc.
Perhaps our councillors think it's nothing to do with them. After all the poppy burning took place in London.
They are too blind to see that us, with a large Muslim minority of residents, would have been an ideal place to organise a 'Not in Our Name' protest/petition/whatever. It could begin to heal the hurt and fear that's been caused by a few idiots.
If politicans don't latch on quickly, to the fact that here is real fear regarding the erosion of our democracy, it will lead to a growth in support for extremism, at both ends of the spectrum.
Germany in the twenties was in economic meltdown. People looked for leadership. Sadly there was someone there, offering people, who up until then had been liberally minded, a direction to go in.
We'll just have to wait, to see if anyone here offers the promise of a solution.
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Do I take it right that muslims tend to vote Labour
Only the bought ones
the free thinkers vary quite considerably as do Hindu's and various tribes from all over the world.
Ok ... I was just curious, because over here, recent immigrants tend to vote Liberal or NDP. The First Nations tend to vote Conservative. I guess I was just trying to get a feeling for voting patterns among British minorities.
There should be no need to have any sort of rally if the police did their job, by their actions these yobs were breaking the law, in fact probably more than one law, so why were they not arrested and charged accordingly, if the boot had been on the other foot and the indigenous population had burnt copies of the Koran and carried signs saying Islam harbours murderers, their feet wouldn't have touched the floor before seeing the inside of a cell
Still no comment from the various councillors who are Accyweb members. Why does that not surprise me? 
There should be no need to have any sort of rally if the police did their job, by their actions these yobs were breaking the law, in fact probably more than one law, so why were they not arrested and charged accordingly, if the boot had been on the other foot and the indigenous population had burnt copies of the Koran and carried signs saying Islam harbours murderers, their feet wouldn't have touched the floor before seeing the inside of a cell
I think a local demonstration would be a very good way of showing that the majority of people don't support the few mad extremists.
It would help show the borough, which has a large Muslim population, in a better light than any so called community art event, or a thousand kids, having a day off school to extol the benefits of recycling, both of which H.B.C. were keen to give time and money to make happen.
Still no comment from the various councillors who are Accyweb members. Why does that not surprise me?
You are demanding.
Making comment, and seeking comment from others.
You'll be accused of being a cyber bully.
There should be no need to have any sort of rally if the police did their job, by their actions these yobs were breaking the law, in fact probably more than one law, so why were they not arrested and charged accordingly, if the boot had been on the other foot and the indigenous population had burnt copies of the Koran and carried signs saying Islam harbours murderers, their feet wouldn't have touched the floor before seeing the inside of a cell
The police, like politicans, and the media are afraid of offending any minority group, because of their patronising, wooly minded liberalism.
Would only be of any use if the local Muslim community took part too
Couldn't agree more G, but this country has more than its fair share of those numpties and its time they were told exactly where to go
That's what I'm saying.
Rather than fannying about paying for crocheted 'sculptures' to be hung up in the Market Hall, our elected civic leaders could, in theory, be organising an inter-faith (and no faith) demonstration, showing the world that protests like the poppy burning our not carried out in 'Our Name'.
No one else, is sadly doing it, and although last week's 'protest' happened in London, it does affect people in Hyndburn, and people are hurt, angry, and afraid. It needs leadership skills, that local politicans should be able to provide.
Come on Bernard, we can all see you keep reading this thread, what do you think?
I wonder if the taxi driver mentioned in this article will be allowed to continue plying for hire?
RAF man turned away by Asian cabbie in row over uniform - Yorkshire Post
RAF man turned away by Asian cabbie in row over uniform - Yorkshire Post
I'm sure Claytonender will be on to give us a comment soon. After all, she did say "extremism in all its forms is very worrying" a few weeks ago, when she was highlighting the problem of rightwing Christians in the US who were threatening to burn the Koran. I've no doubt that she'll be equally outspoken about their Muslim equivalents.
If local religious leaders haven't the common sense to realise that they should be making a public stand, showing that the majority of Muslims don't think British troops should 'burn in Hell, then local politicans should be helping them to do this.
We have two Muslim councillors, one Labour, the other Conservative, what are they doing to reassure the public?
I watched the protest clip, and being a cynic, didn't believe anyone could be so crass and insensitive, and afterwards, whilst wearing my poppy, in a shop I go into most days, it did make me wonder what the Muslim owner thought about them, and what they represented to them.
Councillors aren't elected just to make sure the streets are swept. They are the nearest tier of government to the people, and in an area with a religiously diverse population, they should be taking the lead.
Disgusting, and yes he should have his licence taken off him.
Anyone whose job deals with the public should not be allowed to practice their own form of discrimination.
What next?
Women travelling alone, unaccompanied by a husband/male relative?
Someone showing bare arms?
A gay couple?
Someone merry with drink?
That's assuming he has a license in the first place. He's probably an Iraqi Asylum seeker, working under false I.D.
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