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Quick question for Mr.T has there been any talk of financial aid from various sources or not because to me these are far more important as a report again that I read is saying without any a lot of clubs are just 2 weeks away from ruin?
 
Once again there has been no vote of any sort in L1

L2 "voted" informally on their Zoom call a week last Thursday that to end the normal season

What is put out in the media is a combination of the basic EFL communication plus some guess work or a "leak"

Mr T. I have been following the comments on here and the EFL news via the BBC.
What do you mean by ....’voted informally’ ....please? Was it an actual vote on a firm proposal or was it just canvassing opinion? There is a big difference. :idunno:
 
Quick question for Mr.T has there been any talk of financial aid from various sources or not because to me these are far more important as a report again that I read is saying without any a lot of clubs are just 2 weeks away from ruin?

There has been "talk" of getting external monies, from say Govt but Football PLC ( in the main ) has overspent so there are concerns such move might not look to well with the general public.
 
Mr T. I have been following the comments on here and the EFL news via the BBC.
What do you mean by ....’voted informally’ ....please? Was it an actual vote on a firm proposal or was it just canvassing opinion? There is a big difference. :idunno:

There has been no vote, actual/ informal or canvassing opinion in L1; just a 3 hour video meeting in which it was obvious there was lots of different opinions.

I have it from an excellent source that L2 all agreed to stop the regular season and try and go for the play-offs. They have asked for no relegation but the EFL Board won't agree to this. L2 is much easier at the top as they've all played the same games.
However nothing is official until an EGM is set up and voting papers sent out and returned
 
There has been "talk" of getting external monies, from say Govt but Football PLC ( in the main ) has overspent so there are concerns such move might not look to well with the general public.

Well not just football but all businesses have if needed took advantage of the government,s furloughing scheme without which a awful lot of clubs would have gone to the wall maybe even Stanley, this is going to end at some point so unless there is a willingness amongst clubs rather than self interest over promotion or relegation to come up with something financial then football will be a different place than when last played. Outside of the premiership without crowds or some other ingenious way of income sources looking at season starting is a non starter no need for meetings it's straightforward.
 
There has been no vote, actual/ informal or canvassing opinion in L1; just a 3 hour video meeting in which it was obvious there was lots of different opinions.

I have it from an excellent source that L2 all agreed to stop the regular season and try and go for the play-offs. They have asked for no relegation but the EFL Board won't agree to this. L2 is much easier at the top as they've all played the same games.
However nothing is official until an EGM is set up and voting papers sent out and returned

Thanks Mr T. :mosher: Good to have a proper dose of ‘clarity’ which seems to be something a bit elusive in these strange times.
 
no matter what the EFL clubs vote for regarding the promotion or relegation they cannot do much if the premier league do not relegate clubs or the national league do not promote any. can see something of a farce in the brian rix catogary once the vote takes place. below the national league structure the clubs weeks ago ended their seasons with no promotion or relegation.
 
no matter what the EFL clubs vote for regarding the promotion or relegation they cannot do much if the premier league do not relegate clubs or the national league do not promote any. can see something of a farce in the brian rix catogary once the vote takes place. below the national league structure the clubs weeks ago ended their seasons with no promotion or relegation.

Well there lies the problem too many cooks spoil the broth springs to mind longer the farce goes on it doesn't bode well. 11 weeks is it now since the Tranmere game forgot already the habit shame new habits being formed and I won't be on my own football needed to act faster and together had words with loads of my football friends and the general consensus among them was football was a mess and they certainly were not particularly bothered about premiership football on the telly free or not, yet again to me showing how out of touch government and football authorities are from the real world.
 
love those lazy television comments about football coming back in june. its not football coming back but the greedy premier league that is. for some and certainly not me they think football starts with liverpool and ends at norwich.
 
It will be interesting to see if football has made its mind up about this season how they are going to deal with the change in furloughing staff that comes along end of October I think when it will start to be phased out in my opinion these and other issues are far more important than wether Coventry are promoted or Peterborough wanting the season finished. Without crowds hopefully this might change but if not the league's won't be the same so promotion and relegation are irrelevant until we know what landscape lies ahead.
 
As I understand it, players can't be furloughed if they're training - that counts as working. And employers are going to have to pay part of the salaries of furloughed staff from August.
 
As I understand it, players can't be furloughed if they're training - that counts as working. And employers are going to have to pay part of the salaries of furloughed staff from August.

That's what club's think BUT one club has asked the EFL to ask IF we can return to training; ( as and when required) with players still on furlough; on the basis there is no income.

Highly unlikely Govt. will say "yes" but at least the question will have been asked
 
Huddersfield owner Phil Hodgkinson warns '50 or 60 clubs' could go bust

He also echoes what I,ve been saying they are concentrating on the wrong thing ending this season instead of the future with or without crowds and were the income is coming from. One of his ideas is for players to take short term paycuts which was frowned on by the PFA he,s right though reduced costs now could be the difference between a job in the future.
 
Says it right here on the government website

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-i...-job-retention-scheme#while-youre-on-furlough

While you’re on furlough
Once you are on furlough you will not be able to work for your employer. You can undertake training......
I doubt it's that straightforward. The training that is referred to in the guidance is intended to be a course or similar that would enable an employee to perform their duties better, once furloughing has ended. Training for footballers is a normal part of their job and is extremely unlikely to be covered by that definition, hence the question that Mr T refers to.
 
Huddersfield owner Phil Hodgkinson warns '50 or 60 clubs' could go bust

its still less than 3 months ago when we were still going to games. a lot has happened since then. i imagine a lot will happen the other way in the next 3 months. that more or less takes us up the september when proper football could resume. a big possibility it could resume with fans also. far too much negativity around without any real positive glass half full messages around. every person seems have contracted project fear and its going to be difficult to get this out of their minds.
 
its still less than 3 months ago when we were still going to games. a lot has happened since then. i imagine a lot will happen the other way in the next 3 months. that more or less takes us up the september when proper football could resume. a big possibility it could resume with fans also. far too much negativity around without any real positive glass half full messages around. every person seems have contracted project fear and its going to be difficult to get this out of their minds.

That is why they should be concentrating their efforts on next season not on concluding this one. It isn't negativity when if you run a business and your in financial trouble you search your head and look for ways of salvaging what you have. Don't forget it's not just players it's management teams, physio,s kit men whatever will need looking at when the furloughing scheme finishes which is the only financial aid they have had the money from the football authorities is just an advance payment and many clubs will have probably already spent it.
 
Well just seen the news bank holiday Southend beach more on their than Stanley get at home way this is going hope for crowds yet what a joke.
 
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