I used to work in Salford, and that could be a bit rough, especially the walk from Salford Crescent railway station to my place of work. You had to walk under an underpass, and on a couple of occasions I was spat on by gangs hanging about.
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Oh i never felt threatened n been in some pretty unusual places out yon, got the opinion from some of the conversations i had.
I reckon the real nutters out there are the right-wing Christian fundamentalists...and you don't find many of them in Harlem.
And they're armed tooI reckon the real nutters out there are the right-wing Christian fundamentalists...and you don't find many of them in Harlem.
America's a very big country Eric, home to many different races and cultures, but my point with the American system, if you kill somebody in cold blood there is no second chance, its either the needle, the chair or the gas chamber, failing that life without the chance of parole, in good old Britain murderers can get 30 years and be back on the streets before they're 50, victims don't get that chanceSomehow, I don't think "sorry, s..t happens" would cut it.Here's a few more:
Canada's wrongful convictions - Canada - CBC News
And to those, like Jaysay, who admire the American justice system: why don't capital punishment and heavy jail sentences seem to be workingIf they did work, the US wouldn't be the crime capital of the "civilized" world.
with DNA today and it can be proved without a shadow of doubt murderers should be killed then tax payers money would not be wasted feeding and looking after them in prison
I forgot to add that I would happily string this lot up!
You'd have the RSPCA after you Michael, cruelty to animals
I could spend a million quid a lot better ways
Canada's a very big country, home to many different races and cultures. We don't have the death penalty. And even (notice I began this sentence with a conjunction
) without the death penalty, our murder rate is going down. In fact, the rates for all types of crime are on the way down. Point is though, if anyone could demonstrate to me ... logically, statistically, whatever -ally, that capital pusnishment is a deterrent to murder, I would be all in favour of it. But as far as I can see, it doesn't work as a deterrent. I know folks who are in favout of it for the wrong reasons: probably the decendants of those who did their knitting by the guillotine, or who got their jollies at Tyburn. But, as a deterrent to murder, it just doesn't work. And however many jerks, assholes, losers, etc. are hanged, fried, or shot, it will never work.They do say no one hanged for murder ever committed another one-or any other crime come to that.
Whilst it don't work as a deterrant Eric, it sure as hell keeps the costs down a bit.Canada's a very big country, home to many different races and cultures. We don't have the death penalty. And even (notice I began this sentence with a conjunction
It might be worthwhile checking out how much it costs in the US to keep a guy on death row while he goes through all the appeal processes which are his right as a US citizen. It might surprise you. And give you something to occupy yourself on a cold winter's day.
The saving money argument works just about as well as the deterrent argument.
Canada's a very big country, home to many different races and cultures. We don't have the death penalty. And even (notice I began this sentence with a conjunction
And I agree fully with what you say Eric
A death penalty for me is impossible to defend in a civilized society.
What do you think are the particular set of circumstances in Canada that make the lowering of the crime rate a reality?
Do you think that it has something to do with the quality of life that you have over there?
Is it something to do with the style of policing?
Is there just a different mentality among the population which is successfully transmitted to the young - do you think that people have greater hope of having decent prospects and a better life?
So many of our young people are disillusioned with what the UK/ Europe can offer -the future seems pretty dismal and perhaps that is a factor affecting the crime rate here (undoubtedly it was a factor in the summer riots both in the UK and Italy).
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Don't buy that at all, talking about the U.K. not the U.S.A. we aint got a death row n the circus that goes wi it.It might be worthwhile checking out how much it costs in the US to keep a guy on death row while he goes through all the appeal processes which are his right as a US citizen. It might surprise you. And give you something to occupy yourself on a cold winter's day.
Yes, true indeed. But did he commit the murder he was hanged for?
But you will have ... there are lawyers, probably a lot like your former PM's wife, who will make sure of it
Assume yer meaning the circus? cos we will never have a death row! n if so agree a lot will try, don't mean fer sure sucess though.But you will have ... there are lawyers, probably a lot like your former PM's wife, who will make sure of it
And I agree fully with what you say Eric
A death penalty for me is impossible to defend in a civilized society.
What do you think are the particular set of circumstances in Canada that make the lowering of the crime rate a reality?
Do you think that it has something to do with the quality of life that you have over there?
Is it something to do with the style of policing?
Is there just a different mentality among the population which is successfully transmitted to the young - do you think that people have greater hope of having decent prospects and a better life?
So many of our young people are disillusioned with what the UK/ Europe can offer -the future seems pretty dismal and perhaps that is a factor affecting the crime rate here (undoubtedly it was a factor in the summer riots both in the UK and Italy).
Maybe because, in general, we're a happy bunch of hosers over here.
Could be that we rank 228th in the world in terms of population density, at 3.41 per square kilometer.
Even with a tory government, right wing stuff like not allowing gay marriage, abortions, and capital punishment don't seem to bother most Canadians. We are a live and let live bunch. The only thing that really gets us going is hockey.
Vancouver Riot 2011 - YouTube
Maybe because, in general, we're a happy bunch of hosers over here.
Could be that we rank 228th in the world in terms of population density, at 3.41 per square kilometer.
Even with a tory government, right wing stuff like not allowing gay marriage, abortions, and capital punishment don't seem to bother most Canadians. We are a live and let live bunch. The only thing that really gets us going is hockey.
Think you've hit the nail on the head there Eric, population density is an important factor affecting everything. (Think "lemmings"!)
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